Tagged With "consist"

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2 Lionchief Engines together - same consist?

Gettle08 ·
Ok, this might be a dumb question, but I am very new to this hobby. I have two RS-3 Lionel Lionchief engines. Can I run these two engines hooked together, in the same consist? If they are both placed at the same speed on the remote. I know you can run two on the same track, just thought it would be neat to have them together, and make things more realistic. Thank you for anyones help.
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Rio Grande Power

ChessieMD ·
Been very busy last few months. Despite the busy schedule the Rio Grande switching layout is progressing with detailing and scenery completion near the CWI Waste Management building. Was playing around with my iPhone and shot a consist rolling thru. Enjoy!
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How consistent with my consist?

Kirk R ·
As a relative newbie I have some questions regarding making a consist. If we are talking about a passenger consist should all cars have the same road name and should all cars be the same style and size? You would never mix a PRR coach with a NYC coach... or would you? Were the named routes like the Broadway Limited or the Congressional very consistent? I do realize that sometimes (maybe more often than not) you may see a few passenger cars up front followed by some freight cars and the...
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Re: Anyone use a Lionel 402 to pull McCoy cars?

Steve "Papa" Eastman ·
Have Bill bring his 402 over and we can do an evaluation.
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Re: Anyone use a Lionel 402 to pull McCoy cars?

Seal Beach Bill ·
Anytime, I'd be curious how it looks also, even though I'm trying to avoid stepping into the McCoy world. Have way too much now. Bill
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Re: Anyone use a Lionel 402 to pull McCoy cars?

CP BOB ·
Bill, you can never have too much! Bob
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Re: Anyone use a Lionel 402 to pull McCoy cars?

Chris Lonero ·
The 402 isn't a small engine so I think McCoy would look just fine behind it.
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Re: Anyone use a Lionel 402 to pull McCoy cars?

Seal Beach Bill ·
Chris, You're right the 402 (which is basically a 408 without lights and some other goodies) is very large. My concern would be the 402 overpowering the McCoy cars. Look forward to trying it. Fun toys! Bill
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Re: Anyone use a Lionel 402 to pull McCoy cars?

terry hudon ·
or perhaps a 380 would look also,,,
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Re: 2 Lionchief Engines together - same consist?

Dave Olson ·
Only if they'e the same exact sku, then the dedicated remote will control both of them. Different skus/road numbers cannot be consisted together.
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Re: 2 Lionchief Engines together - same consist?

SuperChiefer84 ·
Make sure you have them both on same speed step and it would work.
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Re: 2 Lionchief Engines together - same consist?

PSU1980 ·
We have double headed LionChief just as Dave has pointed out and works great
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Re: Rio Grande Power

Pine Creek Railroad ·
ChessieMD, Patrick very cool sir very cool! PCRR/Dave
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Re: Rio Grande Power

RoyBoy ·
Nice ground scenery. Love the weeds!
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Re: Rio Grande Power

AMCDave ·
I HATE it!!!! Much to short!! Looks great....love the Rio Grande.....it's the name of my model RR. Nice work...any other video?
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Re: Rio Grande Power

Murnane ·
Awesome!!!!!
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Re: Rio Grande Power

Jushavnfun ·
A great video, awesome engines love it. One of the railroads I model.😊
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Re: Rio Grande Power

ChessieMD ·
AMCDAVE, More vids to come! I ordered a DJI gimble to take nice smooth video...at the point now where I can experiment and enjoy photographing my work. Stay tuned.
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Re: Rio Grande Power

ChessieMD ·
RoyBoy, Many thanks. I was inspired by the work of Pelle Soeborg and John Olson (The Jerome and Southwestern) when it comes to the desert look and vegetation choices. I used actual soil from Arizona Rock and Mineral and many, many tufts. This was the part of building the layout that I enjoyed the most. Turning plain pink foam board into a desert.
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Re: Rio Grande Power

sawdust43 ·
CHESSIEMD... Did you post a track plan for the switching layout?... Howard...
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Re: Rio Grande Power

ChessieMD ·
HOWARD, Not yet. Will be starting a new series on OGR, “Building the Rio Grande” in April. I have old photos, a track plan and will share my thoughts and techniques. Have learned a lot and want to share my experiences. Stay tuned.
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Re: Rio Grande Power

ChessieMD ·
PCRR, Coming from you sir....means a lot! Thanks.
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Re: Rio Grande Power

Billsrr ·
Great video I love the Grande.
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Re: Semiscale Hopper Suggestions Needed

prrhorseshoecurve ·
go for the ribbed sided 3 and two bay hopper cars. Weaver made dozens of them.
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Re: Semiscale Hopper Suggestions Needed

D500 ·
Weaver made nothing "semi-scale" - all their products were full 1:48. But, even a 1:48 2-bay hopper is not a large car, so unless you want "short" (and typically narrow) versions of "long" cars, stick with full-scale models of smaller prototypes, like the 2-bay. Lots of road names to choose from; hoppers were not usually colorful cars, if that matters (I like them "monotonous"). These semi-scale can be presentable, but are all a bit narrow: The Lionel 4-bay PW hopper (cloned by Williams,...
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Re: Semiscale Hopper Suggestions Needed

Lehigh Valley Railroad ·
Check out the neat color scheme on the menards cars
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Re: Semiscale Hopper Suggestions Needed

Mark Diff ·
Since you mentioned semi-scale, any K-line 2 bay or Lionel 2 bay cars would work. Especially the MPC era Lionel. They came in a variety of colors and are inexpensive also. Or, you can paint and letter you own into something more interesting... Or, you can vary the load they carry. Not just coal, but Iron ore, ballast, limestone, sand, wood chips, coke and so on. How a bout a train of empties. For every loaded train, the is a corresponding empty one.
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Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

tplee ·
I am hoping for feedback on methods of adjusting or modifying these cars so that I can use them on my layout consistently. I would think there should be some approach that would eliminate the issues I am having. So far I have not been able to do so. I would appreciate any advice that OGR members or The Atlas Co. may have. These are the only cars that I own that have an issue with, on my layout. It seems to be an issue with all of them at different times. I have had no problems with the Atlas...
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Anyone use a Lionel 402 to pull McCoy cars?

Captaincog ·
I am just wondering if anyone has ever used a Lionel 402 to pull a consist of McCoy cars? If so, how does it look and do you have any pictures to post? What is the largest consist that you have pulled? Thanks in advance!
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Semiscale Hopper Suggestions Needed

abbrail ·
I have a bunch of RailKing Semiscale four bay hoppers that look great as they travel around my railway. But, after the first dozen have rolled by they start looking a bit monotonous. I'd like to add a little variety to th e consist by finding some different semiscale hoppers that would look appropriate intermixed. Any suggestions? Roadnames are not at all important.
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Trouble with consists, or also known as lashups

Gandydancer ·
Back in Feb. of 2015 I posted a problem a friend was having running multiple engines on the same train. Everything seemed to load okay and actually ran for a couple of days. Then it started. Engine not found, run a short distance and then stop. Run engines separately and everything fine, including in conventional. he tried everything including clearing out all files in his DCS for the engines, talking to MTH and still every thing was screwed up. This past month or so a friend suggested he...
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Smithsonian Collection BY Lionel -CONSISTS: Set 1 | Set 2 | & 5-Additional Cars | 2-Rail 1992 Dreyfus Hudson (Locomotive & Tender not included)

bellymoondrop ·
Hello Dear Forum members, Thanks to your immeasurable help I was able to speak to Mr. George Koh regarding these items. He suggested I sell them in the following sets as per their original issue. These items do not have serial numbers and it has been suggested they were purchased separately, near the end of the run. Many have the Lionel Smithsonian label on the bottom, some don't. Most were in sealed boxes with the original packaging and shipping carton. Three items do not have the original...
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What kinds of sets do you like running and collecting?

TrainMasterMark ·
It's winter outside but I'm sure it's summertime on a lot of our layouts! I have recently come to realize that I like running sets or consists with a specific theme or road name. Just recently I began working on piecing together a K-Line Coca Cola freight consist with a Coca Cola Auto Hauler car I bought on the For Sale/Trade forum the other day. A personal favorite set of mine is my MTH NS First Responders set with the Premier 5642 GP38-2 leading railking and premier safety train cars.
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

Hot Water ·
For what it's worth, I found out the hard way that those types of 21" long passenger cars do NOT like too close together turnouts into curves, i.e. the "S curve syndrome".
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

fisch330 ·
I note that you have Ross Custom switches. After consulting with Atlas about the problem, perhaps Steve Brenneisen from Ross might make a suggestion. It sure makes a pretty looking train, whatever you do! Paul Fischer
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

Big John Henry ·
Interesting, I don't run mine across any switches. I use atlas track and will have to investigate now.
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

J Daddy ·
I have the complete car set as well. The cars are beautiful, however they are not made to work on 072 curves or switches. When the cars where first released I had no issue with ONE car taking these turns but couple another on and the fun began. First off I have notice that the details of the underbody do not like DZ1000 switch machines and their large screw heads. They even seem to pick the switch springs. I have never been able to get this set to traverse over 072 curves. Thus I only run...
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

richtrow ·
Buzz You might want to ask guys over on the "3RS" forum about the Kadee conversions. I'm sure someone over there has done these cars by now. From your photos, it looks like the cars are pre-drilled for the draft gear boxes as is usual for Atlas equipment. You probably just need some styrene shims and Kadees with the correct shank length. That's a nice layout you've got started there. Good luck!
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

mikey ·
I have the same consist that you have,I put tape on all of the thumb tacks before the cars ever saw track.I run on 096 curves and Ross 096,096x072 switches as well as 096 curve switches with no problems,I also back the cars into the passenger platform thru the switches with no problem going slowly. Mikey
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

New Haven Joe ·
I don't have this set. You might try raising the car body height by putting washers between the trucks and the frame to allow the trucks to just clear the bottom of the car body when they swing. This shouldn't change the coupler heights since the couplers are attached to the trucks. I have no idea if this would be an easy or difficult modification. I have done this successfully on a couple of my cars that had similar problems. NH Joe
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Re: Trouble with consists, or also known as lashups

Barry Broskowitz ·
First, it's TIU not AIU. Second, he possibly had (ands still has) a loose transceiver board in either the TIU, remote or both. Operating with the remote and TIU tethered (connected) would have turned. that up in short order. I have difficulty believing that MTH support didn't suggest that almost immediately. This and a whole lot more is all in “The DCS Companion 3rd Edition!" This book is available from many fine OGR advertisers and forum sponsors, or as an eBook or a printed book at OGR’s...
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Re: Trouble with consists, or also known as lashups

Gandydancer ·
Barry, First you are correct, I misspoke when I said AIU instead of TIU. I do know better. I appreciate your suggestion and will pass it on to my friend. I know for sure he has not tried that test. However, I do know for sure he did talk to MTH a couple of times to which one time they told him the new version of DCS was partly created to correct his problem as they have heard about it from several other hobbyist. This is why I love this forum as there is always someone willing to help no...
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Re: Trouble with consists, or also known as lashups

Engineer-Joe ·
Well first Barry, it's short order..... not shirt order and second......
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

tplee ·
I believe I have made some progress since I first wrote the original post involving the O72 issues with the Atlas CZ cars and O72 switches. I appreciate the post replies and emails that offered suggestions and ideas. I have some conclusions that I have applied to my layout and cars. It is not perfect yet, but improved. I will share what I’ve have found to date, my actions taken and why. I found a variety of issues that varied from car to car. I think that these issues mostly appear when...
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

tplee ·
Photos Updated, note the roller below rail. Hope this makes it easier to see. Buzz
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

DL&W Pete ·
I took my 13 amtrak cars to nj hirailers and had a complete meltdown, derailed every chance it could through switches and there O72 curves. The plastic diaframs fell off too, the cars have no problems at home on my circle of O82 realtraxx.
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

J Daddy ·
Buzz - thank you for the diligent work. I appreciate the updates and I will be following your findings, I have sentence my CZ cars to run an outer loop with 096 min curves, with no cross over switches. I was able to eliminate the un-coupling of cars by adding a small piece of black electrical tape to the inside of the couplers.
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

Matt A ·
Great write up. Now I know why postwar Lionel had chamfered rollers. Try calling Atlas and see if you can get chamfered rollers.
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

tplee ·
j Daddy. That is a great suggestion and easy to do. I was going to use some other material like Lighting powder and CA glue. I will use your tape method. Most of my couplers are 15/64 to 14/64 a few (2) were 13/64. It doesn't take much of a shim to correct the problem. Thanks Again, Buzz
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Re: Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

Dave_C ·
I'm a firm believer in Kadee couplers. It looks like the coupler mounts are the same as the scale coupler conversion they were offering in freight cars at one time. Despite their issues they got me started in converting everything to Kadee's. In your case these might be worth a shot and give the Atlas adjustacouplers a try. I would first remove the the stock Atlas centering spring and replace it with a Kadee which is much softer. You can also file back the coupler box to allow more swing.
 
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