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Can I use a ZW-L to "lock direction " on PS3 in conventional?

wmcwood ·
I am trying to set the locking direction with a ZW-L using sequence (whistle and 3 bells) Does not seem to work.  Any tips? thanks Bill
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Re: Can I use a ZW-L to "lock direction " on PS3 in conventional?

wmcwood ·
Thanks Lee and Matt I finally did get it to work, I think my sequence was not fast enough. ~Bill
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Re: Can I use a ZW-L to "lock direction " on PS3 in conventional?

phillyreading ·
I am not an expert but I think you will need to use an MTH transformer to access the locking features on the PS-3 engine. An MTH Z-4000 will do that, possible an MTH Z-1000. Lee Fritz
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Re: Can I use a ZW-L to "lock direction " on PS3 in conventional?

Former Member ·
Yes you can, I forget the sequence.
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Re: Question about ZW-L

MartyE ·
Using a Legacy or other Lionel TMCC system will allow conventional operation on all 4 outputs. You will have access to horn/whistle and bell on B and C as well even though there is no physical control on the ZW-L.
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Re: Question about ZW-L

bigkid ·
Thanks! Makes my decision making a little easier
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Question about ZW-L

bigkid ·
Quick (dumb) question, from reading the ZW-L description on Lionel's website, it looks like the ZW-L has the capability to run conventional engines via the Legacy command base, basically mirroring what you can do with a standard transformer and a powermaster from what I know. Question 1, does it in fact have this capability built in? Question 2, does it affect only the two main variable outputs, or all 4? Thanks!
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Does ZW-L eliminate the need for a TPC?

ToledoEd ·
I just installed a TPC to power a  block to run conventional which also allows me to run command mode on other blocks. Then it occurred to me I should be able to run both from the CAB-2 with the ZW-L in Command mode w/o using a TPC. Or does my smoke fluid contain something funny when it burns?  I would set Throttle A at 18v constant to Block 1 to run a command loco; and use Throttle D on Block 2 to vary the voltage and run conventional. no TPC.  with both trains...
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Re: Does ZW-L eliminate the need for a TPC?

Dave45681 ·
100% correct with the minor clarification that the ZW-L is limited to 180 W max on any handle (the last of which will limit at 80 W if all the others are maxed out due to the total available being 620 watts). That's a highly unlikely scenario unless you run 3 trains all right near the 180 W limit. To be more precise, the last handle will max out at the lesser of either 180 W or 620 W minus whatever the other 3 handles are consuming) Sorry if I made my response more confusing than it needed...
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Re: Does ZW-L eliminate the need for a TPC?

ToledoEd ·
Dave, Thanks. I like the direct short answer first! Just to be sure I understand...ZW-L in command mode: Block 1: I address A with the CAB-2 and dial up to 18v. and use it to run the command engines: I address D and dial up and down the voltage for the conventional locos. I can also address B and C and use them however I want to so long as the entire voltage and amps do not exceed the limits of the ZW-L. I'll be rewiring my layout and retiring the TPC for now. Again thanks for the quick and...
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

George S ·
Can you explain a little more about what you are trying to do? The ZW-C is actually more powerful than a ZW-L. You can have 4 full 180 watt power districts off a single ZW-C. The ZW-L limits the max load of the unit to 620 watts. It seems you are asking about track ID assignments through Legacy command control. This would normally be used for conventional running. I believe the 9 ID limitation was a TMCC limitation. Some ZW-C units have updated firmware for Legacy. I don't know if this...
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Re: 'lash-up' of Transformers?

Phoenixx101 ·
Hey John, Well I have confirmed the the troubles you are having. I am unable to build a successful TR lashup that includes the transformers. I did manage a slightly wonky workaround. If you put the transformer in 1CH mode on the leftside backside switch, you can max the throttles (all outputs) and from your legacy remote use whatever ENG # the AU output is to control the voltage of all 4 outputs. This achieves close to what you set out for since a lashup of two or three of the sides of the...
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Re: Does ZW-L eliminate the need for a TPC?

ToledoEd ·
Dave, the only one confused was me. Your response was clear and very helpful. I've already pulled my TPC.
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Re: Does ZW-L eliminate the need for a TPC?

Dave45681 ·
Yes. The only thing to be aware of is that you will need to use the CAB-2 to dial up the voltage on your command loop as well. There isn't a way to program the handles so that one will always be at 18 volts and the other will be variable. They either are all controlled by the remote, or none are. (this assumes your power requirements are within the single channel (handle) capability of the ZW-L, 180W. If you are using a TPC that can deliver more power to the track and paralleling 180 bricks...
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Re: All Trains Start At Once

Toledo Lines ·
Thanks Matt, The power indicator on my CAB2 has wild fluctuations with the power level going from one bar to full power immediately with the hand held is inserted back into the cradle and the recharge starting up. You are spot on in stating the trains are not receiving the signal from the CAB2. The CAB2 has been back to Lionel twice over the last year and has had major upgrades. I am running two Lionel Legacy trains and three Sunset on the layout. The Sunset are on the spurs and they are...
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Re: All Trains Start At Once

Former Member ·
Make sure your legacy base is plugged in an getting power, this issue is a symptom of the layout not having a legacy signal. If I remember correctly all later model legacy locos will start in neutral because of the possible catastrophe that could happen when all your locos start up in forward at full power.
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Re: All Trains Start At Once

Big_Boy_4005 ·
Your Cab-2 has nothing to do with this. Your engines are waking up in conventional with no command signal. Check your connection to the base. I went through this a while back, and in my case it turned out to be the connection to the U post was loose on the inside of the base. However there are a number of other things that could cause this.
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Re: All Trains Start At Once

Toledo Lines ·
Thanks Elliott, I will check all of the connections, clean the track and reboot all of the CAB2. I agree that the engines are waking up to conventional. Pete
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Re: All Trains Start At Once

Toledo Lines ·
Thanks again Elliot, Thank you for the advice and the information, much appreciated. Good to hear about the track cleaning because I have 600' of Ross mainline and spurs. The issue started last week after a major open house session for O Scale West out here in California. The battery power level as indicated on my CAB2 hand held is acting erratically. The whole system has been back to Charlotte twice for power issues, batteries running down, CAB2 becoming hot. This is what happened; The CAB2...
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Re: All Trains Start At Once

Big_Boy_4005 ·
You're welcome Pete, but let's be clear on some terms. The Cab-2 is just the hand held remote associated with the Legacy system. The Legacy command base has the remote charger and is what generates the signal that goes to the track. There are 2 different radio signals involved with making the system work. There is the remote to base signal, but I forget the frequency. That has nothing to do with your problem. Then there's the 455KHZ track signal that the base generates. That's your problem...
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All Trains Start At Once

Toledo Lines ·
Yesterday I powered up my ZW-L and Legacy control systems and all of the five trains on my two mainlines and three spurs started moving at top speed. I quickly killed the power and averted a major disaster. I powered up the Legacy system first followed by the ZW-L when this happened. I looked at the power on the batteries on my hand help CAB2 device and they were ok. I seems to me that the system powered up under conventional control and the CAB2 was not seen by the locomotives. Anyone else...
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Re: Does ZW-L eliminate the need for a TPC?

Ken-Oscale ·
I understand that the ZW-L has essentially four TPCs inside. To use with a Legacy or TMCC remote, you still need the command base, correct? It doesn't have a command base built in as well? Second question, anyone try using the ZW-L to control other scales at 12 volts? I imagine setting one of the dials to 12volts max, rectifying the AC track power to DC, which then connects to for example, HO track. Thus allowing remote control of the HO track voltage through the ZW-L(using the TPC) and the...
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Lionel ZW-L transformer

Bob Murphy ·
Excellent condition, works fine, I'm getting out of the hobby. 6-37921. Used. $565 plus shipping.
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Re: L.C.C.A. AT YORK

cabinet Bob ·
Wish I could be there ! Have fun Sal..
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Re: L.C.C.A. AT YORK

NH Bill ·
Hi Sal. Did you guys have some BNSF stuff on your table last October, like a maintenance trailer?
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Re: L.C.C.A. AT YORK

GG1GUYY ·
Bill we will have a lot of left over convention items that we did not have last Oct. We will have BNSF containers for the convention maxi stacks and the CNW also. SAL
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L.C.C.A. AT YORK

GG1GUYY ·
Guys be sure to come by booth KK-7 in the Orange Hall at York and get some 2016 Convention product and a load of good stuff and a look at our 2017 convention gift a NP Truck. BE sure to come to our Dutch treat get together at the Smokey Bones restaurant on Wednesday nite 6pm to? Sal Gambino/GG1GUYY Director/LCCA
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Re: L.C.C.A. AT YORK

MIKATT1 ·
The wife and I are in for Smokey Bones, she loves the salmon! We had a good time at the last one.
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Re: TIU REV.L

madabouttrains ·
Hi GGG I did a reset and tested it off the track. Still have the same problem.
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Re: TIU REV.L

Gregg ·
Strange one...You're saying the fxd key does nothing? Menu/ system/ dcs set up..... FXD is like a toggle switch that toggles the var channels between FXD and Var mode... The remote tells you what mode you've selected. Trouble shooting.... If var 1 &2 IN are disconnected do both channels still stay on??
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TIU REV.L

madabouttrains ·
I have two TIU on my lay out and three Z4ks. Everything has been running great until now. TIU is powered through fixed voltage in 1. What has changed on the TIU number 2 is the variable voltage on 1 and 2 are always on, no control to turn it on or off. I know I can change the setting for this but I have not done anything to change the setting. This condition happen on it's own. When I do try to change the setting for variable 1 and 2 nothing happens they both stay on. Changing the setting...
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Re: TIU REV.L

GGG ·
Possible a shorted FET, but that means both channels failed together which is unlikely unless you some how wired them out of phase or caused a dual short or voltage spike on both channels. I would do a TIU reset and also test with TIU off the track and just powering a simple lighted lock on or lighted accessory. This can ensure TIU is at fault and not some crossed wiring feeding power back into the TIU channel from a different source. G
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Re: TIU REV.L

madabouttrains ·
Gregg The fxd key does nothing. trouble shooting if var 1 and 2 in are disconnected do both channels still stay on. No
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Re: TIU REV.L

Gregg ·
Assuming you did a factory reset of tiu#2 it's address would now be tiu #1... Both tiu now have the same address. the originasl tiu #1 would have to be powered down if one wanted to try testing the other... Does the read find tiu? how is it powered ? etc. Is there a dcs signal on the var channels etc. And the big question , what happened for no apparent reason....?
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Re: TIU REV.L

madabouttrains ·
Gregg What happen for no apparent reason. I had a transformer out of phase. I unplug my trans every summer because of out power surge and outages. I have 3 out let boxes , one is out of phase. One trans was plugged into this. Any how all fixed now. But I need to fix my TIU do you know anyone. Thanks for help. Mark
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Re: TIU REV.L

Barry Broskowitz ·
You might want to look for a connection between the variable channel and a fixed channel, such as adjacent center rails that are touching.
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Re: TIU REV.L

madabouttrains ·
Barry I will do that. Thanks
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How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

Stackm746 ·
i am planning large layout with 3 mains and several yards and believe i need 12 power districts for blocks and accessories on the layout. I would like to run legacy but have been told i can only address 9 outputs on the ZW-Cs. So can i purchase a ZW-L and set addresses 9-12 on that and then use the ZW-Cs for addresses 1-8 and all is good for legacy and tmcc? Any issues if I add DCS later? Will there be any difference in legacy performace by having one block on a mainline powered by a C and...
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

George S ·
Have you thought about using block power controllers for your yards to switch the power source controlling a particular block?
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

George S ·
Also, there is no issue mixing ZW-L and ZW-C units for different power districts.
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

cjack ·
BTW, the B and C handles do not operate on the ZWL same as the ZWC...or I would have one
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

Pine Creek Railroad ·
STACKM746, I am going to lead you down a different path for your layout. Get rid of your ZW-C, Invest in both a DCS and a Z4K with a Side Receiver for running your Conventional Engines. In this manner you can run your Conventional Engines and your TMCC Engines via remote control at the same time, using both the ZW-L & the Z4K to power the operation. If you want to keep the ZW-C use it for a power source for your Legacy. Connecting the DCS and the Legacy together, you have the ultimate...
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

George S ·
Oh my Greg! I was responding on my iPad and didn't even realize it was you! If you don't have the manual to the ZW-C, here is a link... https://www.lionelsupport.com/...ents/72-2982-250.pdf TMCC operations start at page 10. It will explain how to assign the TR ID's. I have never done this with Legacy, but it should work the same way. Yes, assigning ID #0 resets the ZW to manual mode. The TMCC remote controls the ZW-C in command mode just fine for conventional running by remote. The Legacy...
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

Stackm746 ·
Yes my question is mostly about track assignment as I will run a mix of conventional legacy and tmcc. I have been told I can’t go above 9 assignments on the zw-c. At some point I would add DCS. I would like to continue to run trains on the mainlines while doing yard work. I could use the 6 handled assignments for running the mains. I do have a Tpc 400 that I could use as well for a steep grade While I have a legacy system I have never run it. Only zw-c for tmcc so I may not understand my...
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

Stackm746 ·
Hi George didn’t know u were into trains. Is there a way to determine what version of PIC the zw-c is on? Thx for the help
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

George S ·
Hi Greg, Here is an article from MartyE that discusses it. http://www.martye.com/TipsandTricks/PWCZWLegacy.htm The PIC on the motherboard would be labeled S01.HEX. You would have to take the cover off the ZW-C. Be careful if you do when removing it and putting it back on. The bell buttons and direction levers are a bit delicate. Lionel had the PIC listed on their website, but I'm pretty sure they're gone now. Here's the link anyway... https://www.lionelsupport.com/...mp;resultsPerPage=75...
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

cjack ·
Where/who did the pics the first time? Lionel should be able to help here..in addition to everything else they are doing
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

George S ·
Chuck, Marty got the PICs directly from Lionel in 2008. It's worth asking if they could make some. I can't imagine it would be that big of a deal if they still had the code. I don't need any; I don't plan on running Legacy and have TMCC to address my ZW-C's. George
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

cjack ·
Oh sorry, I was answering how the ZW-C operates. The ZW-L B and C outputs start at zero and you have to raise them with the controller. I like the way the ZW-C operates for Legacy operation.
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Re: How best to mix a ZW-L with two ZW-C transformers

George S ·
Isn't that the way the ZW-C works? I have not tried it, but that's what the manual says. George
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