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Atlas RS-1 Illinois Terminal

steve g ·
Does anyone have one for sale?  Year was November 2008 I believe.  
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Black Terminal Overheat on TIU Fixed Voltage In

Scott T Johnson ·
For about a week I noticed that my 18 volt magic bulb was dimming on my layout. The other day I checked the track voltage and it was about 15.9 or so which seems low. So I checked the connectors from the power supply brick into the TIU and found that the plastic had melted on the Fixed Voltage IN 1 black terminal banana plug. I figured it was a loose connection and fixed it but no improvement in voltage and the terminal gets very hot to the touch. Trains are on the track but not operating. I...
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I want a polar express legacy!

Lionel Polar Express ·
Hi There! so, I wanted to get the lionel 10th aniversary legacy scale polar express. only problem is, I don't have the legacy #990 set! I also don't have the 2nd terminal needed to run legacy. could you help me out please! again, I'd like the Lionel 10th Anniversary legacy scale Polar Express, legacy #990, and a second terminal. Thanks!
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Pine Creek Railroad ·
LPE, Yep and I want Legacy Tin Plate also! PCRR/Dave
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MartyE ·
My answers above are pretyy much where things stand. The PE 10th Anniversary Berks were sold out rather quickly at the dealer level. You might find one on the auction sites but you will pay a premium. The 990 Legacy Systems are readily available. Can you elaborate on the "second terminal" question.
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MartyE ·
As long as MTH makes Lionel's Tinplate I doubt this will ever happen as MTH will not put Legacy in a tinplate the produce and it's unlikely that the license of the PE is able to be transferred or sublet to another manufacturer. It would be cool though.
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Wyatts dad ·
I wanted the polar express legacy too.. So I just bought an MTH Berkshire and I'm going to make it my Lionel legacy 1225! ;D i ordered the new lettering for the tender and locomotive. Yeah it won't say "this is the polar express," in tom hanks voice but it will sound good going around the tracks with its realistic chuff and it will smoke like it should've in the crappy lionchief set we bought. I was hoping they would've at least come out with a lionchief plus Berkshire.. But turns out I...
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Mario's Trains ·
Hi! I can't help with the Polar, but I do have on sale - #990 sets: http://www.mariostrains.com/in...emart_category_id=33 Let me know what you think- Mario's Trains www.mariostrains.com 540 868 0025
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Re: Atlas RS-1 Illinois Terminal

Rocketrider ·
I have one display only never run, have original box email me rbillings@solomoncolors.com
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Re: Black Terminal Overheat on TIU Fixed Voltage In

Scott T Johnson ·
That thread excerpt nailed it Carl. When I opened the case I expected the nut on the inside to be barely tight. But it felt tight enough when I checked by hand. Then I took a small wrench to tighten it. Wow, there were more than a few turns needed to get it tight to the level I thought it should be. I checked the other nuts for the other terminals. Same thing. Basically they were all loose to some extent. Now I have 18 volts and the terminal is cool to the touch during operation. Without...
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Re: Black Terminal Overheat on TIU Fixed Voltage In

Moonman ·
Scott, Glad to hear you found the issue. I would follow the suggestion of the poster in that thread and double nut it with additional washer after the holidays. That will prevent the nuts from working loose again. That creates a binding post that isolates the post mounting from the wire connection. It can be a safety issue as you can see from the club members post.
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Joe Allen ·
I'm glad someone benefited from my post. I didn't think anyone would even look at it with all the other posts in the thread talking about fuses and breakers after that TIU post melt down. By the way, the part number for the replacement of the dual female binding post is BB5100004 and was $4.00 in 2/19/14 if you want to replace it.
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GGG ·
After you replace a post that has melted, do a track signal test. Wouldn't surprise me that the signal is degraded. G
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Moonman ·
GGG, Scott was able to prevent melting by catching the hot wire.
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Scott T Johnson ·
Correct, it was just the external connector from the power supply. Power is from a Lionel 180 W (not sure) brick. Connected with a so-so quality adapter I got on eBay with banana plugs going to the TIU. Plastic melted on the banana plug.
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RJR ·
So it is possible that in this particular situation there could have been an issue with the way the wire was fastened in the banana plug. One must be careful about crimping solderless slip on or ring terminals or attaching banana plugs to wires. In any event, I agree that checking internal contacts is advisable.
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RJR ·
What is important to remember is that the melting resulted from current flows that were within acceptable limits, so a circuit breaker or fuse would not have provided protection. This is a matter that requires manual inspection, including fingertips to detect heat. My initial issue Rev Gs do not have nuts. This was a later improvement
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nvocc5 ·
HI Does any one have pictures of the incorrect install and the Carl's (Moonman) modification to correct the problem?
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RJR ·
As I understand it Kris, it wasn't an incorrect installation, but that over time, as the outside terminal knobs get turned, there are nuts inside that loosen The fix was to install a 2nd nut to lock the first in place.
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Barry Broskowitz ·
I suspect that this problem is considerably less likely to surface over time if one uses banana plugs to connect wires to the TIU.
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GGG ·
I understand that, but others have replaced melted units, so just additional information. Current flow high enough to melt the plastic on the terminal usually can burn off insulation on the various inductors. That can kill DCS signal. G
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Gregg ·
Yes for sure open the tiu and make sure all connections are tight... 6 Screws on the bottom... Don't leave it as is. good luck.
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Moonman ·
You are on the right track-check the internal connections at the offending binding post or all of them. An excerpt from this thread : "Every TIU I have opened up has had at least one nut on the binding post not tight enough. To fix this you need to get some M4-.70 nuts. Unscrew the nut on the binding post and remove the external washer and wire. Replace the nut and tighten. Then replace the wire. Next the external washer. Then the nut."
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? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Garrett76 ·
Hi, what is the simplest way to connect multiple operating accessories in parallel to power from one CW-80? I will not be soldering anything. Crimping and/or tightening screws attached to terminal blocks is what I'm going for. I'm an amateur at electronics, some pictures of actual products would be very helpful. This is for a Christmas layout and I'd like to be modular so I can disconnect the items and reconnect next year. Thanks Garrett
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

cjack ·
Run 12 ga to a barrier strip with jumpers so you can parallel loads. Here's a picture of one with all the jumpers showing...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

George S ·
Are you also asking about accessory activation wires? Those vary by each type of accessory. Are these all buildings? Otherwise, could you list the accessories you are trying to hook up? Also, you asked about modular connections. There are great ways to use labeled Molex connectors so that you can unplug a module just like you would with a power cord to a wall outlet.
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Garrett76 ·
I am learning from everyone but still not all the way there, yet. I am a visual learner and would really appreciate a hand drawn sketch with arrows showing the flow direction of electricity at each connection point. please clearly label polarity and other relevant points Thanks!
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wild mary ·
If you use a busbar (not to be confused with a terminal strip) there's no need for jumper wires.
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Trainfun ·
Garrett, if you look at ACDX Rob's excellent diagram you will notice that he says to use a jumper strip on one side of the barrier. A jumper strip is a thin metal strip that looks sort of like a comb. Think of the prongs of the comb and imagine two going under each screw on one side of the barrier strip. Now all of the screws on that side of the barrier strip are electrically connected. So, if you attach your red (hot) wire to any of the screws on the side with the jumper strip all of the...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

wild mary ·
Garrett I see you live in Maryland - same here in Baltimore. If you email me at nicholscharpam@comcast.net I'll give you me cell number. Call me (any time-I'm retired) and I'll walk you through the hook-up. BTW nice job on your web site.
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Gene Dickerson ·
This is what I use, works great!
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

coach joe ·
Garrett, that barrier strip is a fairly common item that should be available at Lowes, HD, ACE, Menard's, Radioshack if you're lucky enough to still have one nearby or any quality hardware store. They come in various lengths so depending on the number of accessories you may want a longer or shorter strip. Look closely at Chuck's picture and you'll see the copper "jumper"wires connecting the cells of the strip so that one power wire from transformer feeds up to six accessories. You'll also...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Garrett76 ·
so, do all the red wires go on one side (top) and all black wires go on other side (bottom)? or is it power wires on the outside (left and right) and operating accessory wires go the middle? a sketch on paper would be helpful. thanks!
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cjack ·
It's left and right. Each vertical pair of screw downs are electrically isolated from each other. I connect half of them of them together and call that red, then the other half connected and they are black. In Lionel terms that is A and U. Instead of using wire jumpers which I make out of #20 ga wire cut in about one inch length and bending around a needle nose plier in the shape of a U, you can buy jumpers. They come in say 8 or 12 long and I cut off what I need like say 4 in a row to...
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George S ·
This is my favorite way. Black to one side and red to the other. You can even plug in with banana jacks. I made this myself, but MTH and Miniatronics each sell one called a power distribution block. George
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Dave45681 ·
They seem to have one model of the item shown and also the other type of Barrier strip at Lowes (you will have ot change to your local store to see if they actually have it). Barrier Strip #1 . Barrier Strip #2 . -Dave
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ADCX Rob ·
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Garrett76 ·
excellent, exactly what I was looking for. One question- as the wire leaves the transformer and becomes many before connecting to the jumper, how do I simply get multiple wires from one? something happens at that intersection which is not clear to me thanks!
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Garrett76 ·
thanks. questions- is this a common item? Anyone know if it's carried at Lowe's? If not, what brick and mortar location can I get one? is it bare wire ends or do I need to purchase some sort of end connector? what holds it in place, screw pressure? Thanks
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coach joe ·
Garret, I've borrowed Chucks picture, If you look closely the red wire entering the strip on the left hand top side is hot power from the transformer into the strip, it is connected to the next five cells on the top side of the strip by 5 short, un-insulated copper jumper wires connecting each terminal to the next terminal to the right thus powering six terminals. On the bottom side you can see three red (Hot) wires coming out of three individual terminals, these are the hot wires to the...
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Garrett76 ·
thanks everyone. I did go to Lowe's and buy some supplies. Haven't been able to work on it yet
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JD2035RR ·
There was a recent post that suggested using grounding strips/grounding bars to avoid the need for jumpers. These seemed to be a cost efficient approach at $5.58 for 9 terminal (you can have more than 1 wire in each terminal hole). http://m.homedepot.com/p/Squar...t-PK9GTACP/100161420 Good luck and please update us when you get a chance. Thanks, JD
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George S ·
Grounding strips are made for 14 to 12 gauge electrical wire used in 15 to 20 Amp circuits in electrical boxes. The gauge of wire for most accessories is much smaller, since they draw very small amps. I use grounding strips for track power, but you need to be careful with accessory wire connections. It is possible to reduce the effective gauge of the wire at the connection if only a small portion of the wire surface is making contact with the connector. It can also be difficult making the...
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Dave45681 ·
I probably wouldn't have been able to write it up as nicely as George, but I had similar thoughts on the grounding bar and how it could be less than ideal for smaller wires, especially stranded ones. That screw connection is relying on a conductor close to the size of the hole. A properly sized conductor, such as the size George points out, can then reasonably be held in place with the screw. Mashing one (or more) smaller conductors down with the screw will probably not be ideal. You may get...
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John H ·
I use these. Search for 8 way bus bar from ebay. About $9, but make it easier.
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cjack ·
I don't care for the grounding strip in our applications. The only thing it has going for it is that it's inexpensive. I very much like an insulated strip which is more compatible with our wire gauges. Compared to the cost of the layout, each appropriate strip we may purchase is less cost than one piece of track. I think it's important not to focus on one favorable aspect of a choice, but to think more broadly about all the aspects including safety, ease of use, appropriate for the purpose...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

JD2035RR ·
George, John, and Dave, Thanks for pointing out the pitfalls of the grounding strip. I am certainly no expert, so I appreciate your comments. I heard via this forum of someone using those and thought it sounded good at the time. Thanks! JD
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Garrett76 ·
So, apparently I bought the wrong item from Lowe's (pictured). There's never anyone in that place who knows anything about electrical items. I asked the hardward guy if he could open the package and check it out. I was primarily interested to know if the terminals were connected on the long side. He said he couldn't tell but thought they were connected on the inside. They were not as I found out two days ago. In another post, someone suggested a jumper strip which I think can be used with...
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