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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

Moonman ·
So, I am thinking if you have a loop with O72 curves and straights on a 35' long table it is about 75 feet of track. You should have about 10 pairs of feeders. Run the transformer to a terminal block at 11 feet from end. From the run 5 pair of feeder to five blocks for half of the loop. So much for distribution plans - try this for me - with a jumper connect both outside rails and test the signal strength on the engine that you have using. What kind of readings do you get?
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

acrking76 ·
So a bit of an update I rewired the terminal and still the same horrible track signal but now my DCS remote freezes when I try to run an engine on the low connection area(which is 95% of the track I have layed atm) it completely freezes up and the engine loops the command like if I blow the horn the remote completely freezes and the horn continues to blow I have honestly not a single clue how low connection could do that to the remote, the remote runs perfectly fine on the area where the...
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

Moonman ·
They make jumpers for the barrier terminals - in lieu of those just jumper a group - say 5 and tap with TXFMR leads on one side and tracks feeds out the other. You can use a piece 16 awg or 18 awg to loop from screw to screw. It appears that you have a 10 position terminal from the photo The hot TXFMR feed should have been red for illustrative purposes and been labeled TIU OUT
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

Engineer-Joe ·
Maybe I missed something here? What version is your TIU? Version L or older? If older do you have lights or filters attached to the blocks? Are you removing all TMCC products and any lighted cars from the rails for the signal test? Have you tested your TIU on a single piece of short track with a single engine for signal strength? It sounds like your are jumping in too deep all at once and not troubleshooting correctly. I do not know your history though.
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

Engineer-Joe ·
If your connections at the rails aren't perfect, you can loose power. Generally speaking, if the power dips enough, the DCS signal will suffer. I did read about your Lionel engines running. I'm thinking it maybe your track connections still. Maybe you could try soldering at least one connection as a test to see if things improve. What gauge wire is at the rail connection? How many DCS engines are on the same TIU channel? What is your power supply?
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

Dave_C ·
You have got a lot of good suggestions. If the track signal is that bad. I would start with the basics. Breaking down the layout into blocks and getting one block working with at least a 9 for a signal. Then move on to another one by reattaching the wires. The outside rail is important for a return path for the signal. I believe in connecting the rails with a jumper wire or alternating the outside rail in every other block. No insulating pins needed on the outside rails between blocks. Not...
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

Engineer-Joe ·
I had a disagreement with Barry B over this. On a larger layout (my 2 rail G scale) I found that the outer (-) rails also needed to be broken up. It was on a certain DCS release and the remote would slow down and wait for engine's replies in large consists outback on my RR. It's cause, I am not certain of. It may even have been from wet ballast, corroded wiring, etc., messing things up? I can't say for certain that this is needed on 3 rail. It's such an easy wiring difference that I just do...
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

acrking76 ·
Okay so this right here, I have a lionel Vision Line Big Boy that I like to keep on the tracks just cause it looks cool and its fun to run on the short line I have in between working on the layout. I took the Big Boy off and am now getting 10s and 9s on the entire line of track. I am not sure what this means, can I not run my lionel engines or have them on the track when running DCS? My TIU is a rev L, and I have tested it on a single piece of track, my power comes from a single Lionel...
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

Hump Yard Mike ·
I didn’t see mentioned here is that Lionel engines operated at the same time as mth on the same track can reduce the signal. Same with constant voltage lighting (like from cabooses). Are you running either one on the same track with the mth items? If so, while you are doing your testing you might want to remove them. Have the tracks been cleaned recently? I use gar graves, but remember atlas track used in the past needing to be cleaned more frequently. Mike
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

Moonman ·
Others could explain it to you in technical terms, but, some electronic devices with capacitors can interfere with the DCS signal. The Big Boy has a lot of features being powered. Alternating the common connection is good idea mentioned earlier. The DCS is carried on the Hot or center rail. Some have questioned the Atlas terminal joiners for good connection. I can't say for sure. The "SCREW IT" method is definitely solid. Many are able to operate both systems and equipment without issue.
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

Hump Yard Mike ·
I run both Lionel and Mth at the same time with out adding the inductor chokes to the Lionel engines. My track length sounds similar to yours and have 4 track feeders in a star pattern, where the middle rail is isolated between the blocks. My track signal is definitely reduced when running Lionel engines, but the mth engines work assuming the engine is already in the remote. If I am adding an mth engine to the remote for the first time, I usually half to remove the Lionel engines or it won’t...
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

Engineer-Joe ·
Your Lionel/TMCC equipment should be on it's own channels. You can install chokes inside the equipment if you wish to run them on the same power supply. I read of people having them parked on powered sidings and I advise them to add kill switches to those sidings. Many don't wish to open up each piece and/or solder in chokes so I suggested to keep them separate. The power dip thing is or can be caused by drawing too many amps thru smaller wires or weak connections and can also cause the DCS...
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

Tracker John ·
At my club's shows, we run DCS and Legacy/TMCC locos on the same loop with no problem so Lionel vs. MTH compatibility is not an issue. Your symptoms are Deja Vu ... my club spent years trying to make DCS reliable on our modular layouts. We tried all of the insulated block/choke/filter/lighted terminals suggestions with inconsistent results. My observation of our DCS testing efforts suggested (to me) is that impedance changes and signal reflection in the layout wiring can weaken the DCS...
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

bruce benzie ·
Maybe I missed something - are you running stranded or solid wires? You need stranded wire, the DCS signal travels on the outside of the wire.. Stranded wire has more surface area than solid core wires. Also - do yourself a BIG favor: Number each wire that comes off the terminal block and have the corresponding number located near the track connection. This is a tremendous advantage when troubleshooting your connections. Bruce
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Re: TIU Connection Problems on large layout.

acrking76 ·
Since this problem has completely changed to me knowing it's something with my lionel engines I have made a new post describing my problem in more detail https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...ng-dcs-engine-signal
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Re: Lionchief Fastrak terminals

bmoran4 ·
If you have a traditional transformer, throw the LionChief wall warts in the trash* . Anything that runs on the wall warts will run with the traditional transformer just fine up to 18VAC. Backfeeding the wall warts (plugged in or unplugged from the wall) with AC from the traditional transformer through the Fastrack is a NO NO. *Or find a niche use for them to power DC circuits like internal lighting for your buildings and such and have certified that they have not suffered damage from the...
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Re: Lionchief Fastrak terminals

Consolidated Leo ·
Jim Radiker: As bmoran4 has stated, even with the wall wart unplugged, while you have the connection to the track, you are feeding AC into the power converter circuit and that can be bad. You have probably blown out a capacitor or two. So yes, disconnect the wall warts and it's connection from the track.
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Re: Cincinnati Union Terminal

Dan Padova ·
When architecture was in it's glory days.
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Re: Cincinnati Union Terminal

C&Osteam ·
Yes. This is an amazing Art Deco design. I can really get into train stations..... Grand Central Terminal is my favorite.
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Re: Cincinnati Union Terminal

c.sam ·
I believe that many of us love the old stations and wish there were more. This past weekend I was fortunate enough to travel up to Patterson for the OGR Day at the Highrailer's layout, my fist time seeing it. On Sunday, my friend Steve Maier took me into NYC for the day and we spent some time at Grand Central - what a pleasure! My first visit to New York as well although I was born there in the Brooklyn Navy Hospital during WW2. Had not been back until Sunday...
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Re: Cincinnati Union Terminal

Ted S ·
"Meanwhile, at the Hall of Justice..." (for the Gen X'ers among us )
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Re: Cincinnati Union Terminal

Firewood ·
A wonderful building and among my favourites. Here's a short thread I sparked a few years ago on smaller, layout-sized Union Station ideas. https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...ure-and-models-ideas
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Re: Cincinnati Union Terminal

Dominic Mazoch ·
Looks like the facility was built for Art Deco NYC steam streamlinets!
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Re: Cincinnati Union Terminal

Wyhog ·
When I was a 19 year old new fireman after working for the Penn Central for about a year I was forced to working the Cincinnati transfer runs. These trains went from the former NYC's Sharonville Yard north of Cincy to the C&O and L&N yards across the Ohio River in Kentucky as well as to the B&O, N&W, Southern Rwy, and other NYC and PRR yards. We usually died on the foreign railroad on the 16 hour law. One dark night my engineer was drunk and could not stay awake. So the...
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Re: Cincinnati Union Terminal

NKP Muncie ·
Beautiful building, and a couple nice pix - foreground element isn't something I've seen much of from there. Looking at maps, the front faces pretty much due east? Is construction all done? Sort of asking if there's a clean view from Western Avenue. Thanks in advance, David
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Re: Cincinnati Union Terminal

rattler21 ·
C. U. T. opened before the scheduled date because of a flood. One unique architectural feature is at the edge of the dome immediately inside the doors. A person on the left where the base of the dome meets the floor can speak in a normal voice and be heard by a person on the right where the base of the dome meets the floor as the sound waves travel along the dome. Kids tend to remember things like that. John in Lansing, ILL
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Re: Salem Union Terminal RR

Trestleman1 ·
Stu, That is one fine layout!!!! Don
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Re: Salem Union Terminal RR

Forty Rod ·
And where did you come up with that wonderful cabin cruiser?
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Re: Salem Union Terminal RR

Stu Gralnik ·
i got it at a train show built up as a load on a flat car. I sanded off the bottom to make it a water line model. You can still find them for sale as kits made by Revell. do a google search for " REVELL CHRIS CRAFT FLYING BRIDGE CRUISER PLASTIC MODEL- COPYRIGHT 1953 i did find some on ebay reasonably priced.
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Re: Salem Union Terminal RR

Fargus ·
Stu Awesome work👍. The layout looks great! The night shots are amazing!!! I would love to make it up there some year! Jerry
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Re: Salem Union Terminal RR

coach joe ·
Stu great work on the waterfront. That's a unique lighthouse.
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Re: Salem Union Terminal RR

Stu Gralnik ·
Joe, the light house is a crow river kit. I made it for a client who then had some cash problems so I kept it. http://www.crowriverproducts.c...4&products_id=41
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Re: No Spade Connectors on Fastrack Terminal 6-12016

ADCX Rob ·
We're gonna' need to see a picture of that.
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Re: No Spade Connectors on Fastrack Terminal 6-12016

Old Newbie ·
Here is the box picture with U-shaped connectors and the actual section with no connectors. Has anyone else had this same experience?
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Re: No Spade Connectors on Fastrack Terminal 6-12016

Train Nut ·
My guess would be they fell off before it got boxed, or the item was used prior to you receiving it.
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Re: No Spade Connectors on Fastrack Terminal 6-12016

ADCX Rob ·
Lionel discontinued the spade connectors at that end(they were causing connectivity problems when clamped by the CW/PowerMax binding posts). For example, here is Amazon's offering . Here is the one offered by HobbySpeed .
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Re: No Spade Connectors on Fastrack Terminal 6-12016

Old Newbie ·
Rob - Thanks. Interesting that Lionel discontinued the connectors but kept the old picture on the box and in other advertising. Again, this is becoming my pet peeve.
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Re: No Spade Connectors on Fastrack Terminal 6-12016

ADCX Rob ·
The original wires for FasTrack are rather lightweight, I wouldn't use them for a permanent layout.
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Re: No Spade Connectors on Fastrack Terminal 6-12016

John H ·
The terminal section is also way over priced, along with the wire being undersized. You can just put on your own .110 connectors and hook to any full section of track.
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Re: No Spade Connectors on Fastrack Terminal 6-12016

prh2j ·
I purchased a Fastrack terminal section from one of the forum sponsors about 6 months ago that had the same issue (i.e. it was missing the c-clamps that were meant to be attached to the ends of each wire as pictured on the box). I reached out to the dealer, and the store examined the rest of their in stock inventory only to discover that all of the other pieces were exactly the same. At that point, the dealer told me that there was nothing they could do and suggested that I contact Lionel.
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Re: **Behind the Scenes... NY Transit Museum Holiday Layout**

TURTLE 2 ·
All I can say is WOW!!!! I would like to see it in person.
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Re: **Behind the Scenes... NY Transit Museum Holiday Layout**

Engineer-Joe ·
This is great to see! "Back side forwards" I like that.
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Re: **Behind the Scenes... NY Transit Museum Holiday Layout**

David S ·
Thank you for posting. This was great to watch. Next time in NYC I will try to go and see it.
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Re: **Behind the Scenes... NY Transit Museum Holiday Layout**

pdxtrains ·
It's amazing, I loved seeing it last year. This is a great video--thank you!
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Re: **Behind the Scenes... NY Transit Museum Holiday Layout**

W&W ·
Very interesting video. Would love to see the layout. Thank you for posting.
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Re: **Behind the Scenes... NY Transit Museum Holiday Layout**

KOOLjock1 ·
I like that the guy from Texas knows it's a "Terminal"! If you've never seen this layout in person, GO! Jon
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Re: **Behind the Scenes... NY Transit Museum Holiday Layout**

Alex M ·
That was great ! Alex
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Re: **Behind the Scenes... NY Transit Museum Holiday Layout**

prrhorseshoecurve ·
I always look forward to seeing it every year!
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