Hello all ... fresh back from York ...which is always a fabulous time filled with friends and trains . Jim at Bridgeboss https://www.bridgeboss.com/ was very kind to sell me a built train shed for the layout .... from his web site I was able to cut a template for the footprint of the shed to assure placement once the real thing arrived .....sure enough is fit like a glove ...very happy with the look of the shed ...down the road doll it up with some lighting and mellow down the finish etc....
Correct, it was just the external connector from the power supply. Power is from a Lionel 180 W (not sure) brick. Connected with a so-so quality adapter I got on eBay with banana plugs going to the TIU. Plastic melted on the banana plug.
So it is possible that in this particular situation there could have been an issue with the way the wire was fastened in the banana plug. One must be careful about crimping solderless slip on or ring terminals or attaching banana plugs to wires. In any event, I agree that checking internal contacts is advisable.
I understand that, but others have replaced melted units, so just additional information. Current flow high enough to melt the plastic on the terminal usually can burn off insulation on the various inductors. That can kill DCS signal. G
As I understand it Kris, it wasn't an incorrect installation, but that over time, as the outside terminal knobs get turned, there are nuts inside that loosen The fix was to install a 2nd nut to lock the first in place.
You are on the right track-check the internal connections at the offending binding post or all of them. An excerpt from this thread : "Every TIU I have opened up has had at least one nut on the binding post not tight enough. To fix this you need to get some M4-.70 nuts. Unscrew the nut on the binding post and remove the external washer and wire. Replace the nut and tighten. Then replace the wire. Next the external washer. Then the nut."
What is important to remember is that the melting resulted from current flows that were within acceptable limits, so a circuit breaker or fuse would not have provided protection. This is a matter that requires manual inspection, including fingertips to detect heat. My initial issue Rev Gs do not have nuts. This was a later improvement
That thread excerpt nailed it Carl. When I opened the case I expected the nut on the inside to be barely tight. But it felt tight enough when I checked by hand. Then I took a small wrench to tighten it. Wow, there were more than a few turns needed to get it tight to the level I thought it should be. I checked the other nuts for the other terminals. Same thing. Basically they were all loose to some extent. Now I have 18 volts and the terminal is cool to the touch during operation. Without...
Scott, Glad to hear you found the issue. I would follow the suggestion of the poster in that thread and double nut it with additional washer after the holidays. That will prevent the nuts from working loose again. That creates a binding post that isolates the post mounting from the wire connection. It can be a safety issue as you can see from the club members post.
I'm glad someone benefited from my post. I didn't think anyone would even look at it with all the other posts in the thread talking about fuses and breakers after that TIU post melt down. By the way, the part number for the replacement of the dual female binding post is BB5100004 and was $4.00 in 2/19/14 if you want to replace it.
My answers above are pretyy much where things stand. The PE 10th Anniversary Berks were sold out rather quickly at the dealer level. You might find one on the auction sites but you will pay a premium. The 990 Legacy Systems are readily available. Can you elaborate on the "second terminal" question.
As long as MTH makes Lionel's Tinplate I doubt this will ever happen as MTH will not put Legacy in a tinplate the produce and it's unlikely that the license of the PE is able to be transferred or sublet to another manufacturer. It would be cool though.
I wanted the polar express legacy too.. So I just bought an MTH Berkshire and I'm going to make it my Lionel legacy 1225! ;D i ordered the new lettering for the tender and locomotive. Yeah it won't say "this is the polar express," in tom hanks voice but it will sound good going around the tracks with its realistic chuff and it will smoke like it should've in the crappy lionchief set we bought. I was hoping they would've at least come out with a lionchief plus Berkshire.. But turns out I...
Anyone do anything like this before? Call it a fantasy layout. I designed an underground freight yard for 100+ cars while preserving topside room for several reversing loops. The single line across the back is intended for static display only. It will probably feature a few bridges and have a mountain backdrop behind it. Will probably add a loco servicing terminal in the lower reversing loop. Want to have all my freight cars on the rails and easily accessible.
For about a week I noticed that my 18 volt magic bulb was dimming on my layout. The other day I checked the track voltage and it was about 15.9 or so which seems low. So I checked the connectors from the power supply brick into the TIU and found that the plastic had melted on the Fixed Voltage IN 1 black terminal banana plug. I figured it was a loose connection and fixed it but no improvement in voltage and the terminal gets very hot to the touch. Trains are on the track but not operating. I...
After a very long wait, my new Lake Terminal Railroad gondolas arrived and I immediately paired them with my MTH Premier Nickel Plate Road 0-6-0 and my Lionel US Steel slag and hot metal cars. Why pair all of these things up? Why, to create a close approximation of what once was at the Lorain, OH steel mills of course! The first three slag cars the train picks up are from the early 2000's while the second set of three and the two hot metal cars are from 2016. Enjoy!
Hi There! so, I wanted to get the lionel 10th aniversary legacy scale polar express. only problem is, I don't have the legacy #990 set! I also don't have the 2nd terminal needed to run legacy. could you help me out please! again, I'd like the Lionel 10th Anniversary legacy scale Polar Express, legacy #990, and a second terminal. Thanks!
I have 5 pieces of the FlyerChief Terminal Track (6-49896). 3 of them have the positive terminal wired to the track closest to the connector housing and 2 of them have the positive terminal wired to the track away from the connector housing. Which is correct? They are easy to modify to make the wiring the same, but I'd like to wire them to a standard if one exist. I did message Lionel Support on their web page, they responded that they could not find any documentation showing the polarity of...
Hi, what is the simplest way to connect multiple operating accessories in parallel to power from one CW-80? I will not be soldering anything. Crimping and/or tightening screws attached to terminal blocks is what I'm going for. I'm an amateur at electronics, some pictures of actual products would be very helpful. This is for a Christmas layout and I'd like to be modular so I can disconnect the items and reconnect next year. Thanks Garrett
My first model train ever. I have attached two pdf files: one for my proposed layout and another for the proposed power train (from Power Supplies to a TIU and then two Terminal Blocks). I need help understanding the logic of creating track power sections: where to place insulated joints and power drops, especially around and through areas containing turn-outs and switches. In other respects, I believe my plans are in keeping with Barry’s do/don’t lists on pages 57 & 158 of his 3 rd...
I have made a new fourm post because I discovered it it something with my Lionel engines, because the problem is so much different than what I thought https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/legacy-and-tmcc-engines-killing-dcs-engine-signal New post I have about a 35 foot long layout with my TIU placed around the center of it and 2 large wires going off to each ends where there is 2 terminal blocks that go off to the tracks. I am scoring 1-4 on the Track Signal test that Ps2 and Ps3 engines...
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Should Lionchief Fastak terminals be unplugged at the track when powering the track via a conventional transformer? I think I have burned out two of these terminal tracks by not disconnecting the plug at the track. The wall packs were unplugged from wall outlet.
I am finding that some items I buy are not what is pictured, which is becoming my pet peeve with this hobby. The 6-12016 pictures (even the one on the box) show spade connectors, but there is just plain wire with no connectors when I open the box. Did I get a bad terminal track? Or is this normal?
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How often do you have feeders to the tracks? I think they recommend one about every 10 track joints, or so. I know that is what I did when I wired mine. I went from TIU to one terminal block, then all my feeders to the track.
I drop a power feed every 8 ft except in my corners where I put a feed at the start middle and end of the curve so my older lionel engines with no speed control have consistent speed around corners. I also should say I use Atlas O track
Not sure if having multiple terminal blocks for just one TIU output is an issue. I used one terminal block for the hot and one for the common, that way I could have 19 feeders, not and common go to the tracks. My layout is about 26x18. I get 9 or 10s all around the layout. Not sure if you have Barry’s B DCS companion book, it is a tremendous resource.
Each pair of wires going from your terminal block to your track should go to one isolated section of track (block). If you are running multiple pairs of wires to track that is connected to each other you will have signal issues.
WHAT bluelinec4 SAID - isolate/insulated the center rails about every 10-12 feet. Use Atlas#6093 on the center rail joint at the start and end of each block. I am a fan of placing the drop at the start of one end of block and keeping the pattern all the around. How are you connecting the power feeds to the rails?
I do not have any switches on the short line I have right now, and only 1 outer rail is connected to common which is standard for atlas. I make sure to always use the same outer rail when dropping feeders.
Even without individual track blocks, your signal strength should be higher than 1-4, if the track is wired properly. Based on your own comments, the terminal strips you have may, indeed, be wired incorrectly. I find using the MTH terminal blocks to be very easy to use. Just run your TIU output to the black and red posts on the MTH terminal block and then run pairs of wires from each numbered port to your track drops. Hopefully, this will straighten it out and you can then create individual...
So, I am thinking if you have a loop with O72 curves and straights on a 35' long table it is about 75 feet of track. You should have about 10 pairs of feeders. Run the transformer to a terminal block at 11 feet from end. From the run 5 pair of feeder to five blocks for half of the loop. So much for distribution plans - try this for me - with a jumper connect both outside rails and test the signal strength on the engine that you have using. What kind of readings do you get?
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