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Re: Gargraves O42 switch advise

GarGraves ·
Tony, We would like to know how you made out with your O-42 switch concern. One thing we wondered about is whether or not you connected both of the outside rails to common. This would have maintained the common connection needed to keep the train running. The isolated rail for non-derailing would still work as designed.
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Re: Gargraves O42 switch advise

Tony_V ·
I did connect both outside rails to common everywhere I did a power drop. This is only a 5x8 layout and I have 6 power connections on the loop with the O42 switches. This was more than my original design but when I realized the switches did not carry power through them, I added a couple of drops. I believe my problem with the smaller locos is due to the way I did the isolated rail for the non-derailing feature. I isolated the frog rail 3" beyond the switch so there is roughly a 6" gap for...
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Re: Gargraves O42 switch advise

GarGraves ·
Thanks Tony. Glad you identified the issue and in the same breath we're sorry you had trouble with the movable point. Glad to hear your dealer was able to help you out. Happy railroading!
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Re: Gargraves O42 switch advise

Dennis LaGrua ·
Gargraves switches can be made to work but require soldering quite a bit of jumper wires around them and occasionally some filing to make them run smooth. Ross can supply with full switch connection continuity and always work perfect out of the box.. I've worked with both brands and they have their merit. My layout is 50% Ross and to be honest they are my favorite switches. If you don't mind adjusting and soldering a bit Gargraves are less expensive, but still good .
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Re: Gargraves O42 switch advise

Tony_V ·
Dennis, I used both Ross and Gargraves switches on this layout. And believe it or not, I had issues with both. This was my first layout with Gargraves track so I had no experience with either. I used Ross on the outer loop because they have an O54/O72 curved switch which is all that fits. I chose the Gargraves O42 switches for the inside loop for similar reasons. The Ross O42 is bigger and didn't fit in my limited space. I am not unhappy with either. Both Gargraves and Ross have worked with...
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Re: Gargraves O42 switch advise

phillyreading ·
Are you using the Gargraves switches back to back? If so put a section of straight track(one to two inches) between the two switches and supply power to both outside rails because the Gargraves switches are not designed well for electrical contact. I have Gargraves switches and had to supply power to the outside rails as the one rail is plastic from the frog to the end of the switch. A cure when using the anti-derail feature for Gargraves is to move the section of track that activates the...
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Re: Gargraves O42 switch advise

Tony_V ·
Lee, Thanks for the response. None of the switches are back to back and all have power connections on all legs. I think you are right about moving the insulated rail away from the frog. My insulated section is the first 3" of track right after the frog. That's probably a good 5" with an isolated section. I think I can fix it without tearing it apart. I will post the results here. Thanks again. Tony
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Re: Gargraves O42 switch advise

phillyreading ·
Tony, That's one of the quirks with Gargraves switches, have to supply outside rail power at times. I plan to upgrade to Ross Switches a bit later this year when I start on my new layout. Lee Fritz
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Re: O-Line O42 Switch Tracks

brianel_k-lineguy ·
Don, this has been discussed before. O-Line Reproductions was not a company, nor were they having products manufactured: It was a re-branding of existing products done by/for Heartland Hobby Wholesale. When the products went to retailers, that was the end of that. There is no mention now of O-Line Reproductions on the Heartland website.
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Gargraves O42 switch advise

Tony_V ·
I completed my new Christmas layout pretty much on Christmas Eve.  I used a combination of Gargraves track, switches and a couple of Ross curved switches.  The Ross switches are on the main line for the bigger stuff where the minimum track diameter is O54.  The Gargraves switches are all O42 on an inside loop.  The inside loop was designed for lower end stuff, older Lionel General Christmas engine, my Grandson's Thomas and friends collection, etc.  I wired the...
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Locomotive Can Not Take 031 Switch

Eagle ·
I bought my grandson a new MTH diesel that I swear said it could be used on 031 track. It takes the O31 curves OK but it is too long to navigate the O31 switches. The body of the locomotive strikes the vertical housing that support the switch light. Two questions: Is there anyway to cut away part or all of the housing without destroying the switch? Second: Will a O42 switch work? I will check with a used old manual O42 switch that I bought for a spur but it doesn't look that much different...
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O42 Switch Track

Dan Padova ·
I know that an O42 switch track is made or was made by Lionel in O27. Is there one made in "O". Tubular track.
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Help with switch

Mailmansteve ·
Does any one know where I can find information on how to trouble shoot and repair a K-Line O42 switch? Thanks!
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O-Line O42 Switch Tracks

Dan Padova ·
Is O-Line making O42 switch tracks. I thought I saw a reference to them somewhere.
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A LOT OF O27

OldO27collector ·
I’ve recently decided to part with my collection of O27. I have 5 O27 switches 2 activation tracks, a tub of straights, and curves, and the wider radius O42 with the same profile. With the availability of the track now dropping my accumulation of larger locomotives like the 646 Hudson I’m just looking to move to fast track. All of the track is in perfect condition and has all of its pins. And I have original boxes for the switches. I’ll part with the straight for 2 bucks a pop, the curves...
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K-Line O42 Switch Wiring Diagram Needed

Dan Padova ·
Would anyone have the hookup wiring for this switch, from the three wire controller to the switch ?
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Re: Help with switch

rockstars1989 ·
Hello MAILMAN-I am sure if you explain the problem-post some clear pics the guys on here will be happy to help you with this. Good luck. Nick
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Re: Help with switch

Moonman ·
Attached you will find the manual - that should help you determine if they are working properly - check the hook-up - eliminate the controller and jumper the posts temporarily with a wire to check switch operation - check with power jumpered to the rails and through the AUX post and outside rail jumpered. Try some different search terms using the forum search tool and you will find discussions about them -
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Re: Help with switch

walt rapp ·
I have a dozen of the O-27 ones, if that's what you have (versus full 'O', which I know they also come in). The common problem that I have had maybe 6 times now is a problem caused by a worn (the nub wore down) or defective limit switch. I have NOT been able to find a source for replacements though. For me, all but one I fixed the same way: the little arm on top was not depressing the limit switch plunger enough for the electronics to realize that the switch had been switched, even though it...
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Re: Help with switch

Mailmansteve ·
The switches do not have a number on them except o27. I purchased two RH switches online. One came in the a blue box and the other in a red box? Blue box K-O276(?) and red box K-O376 (?) Both have the bulb lights not the LEDs. I am trying to run them with fixed track voltage with my Lionchief loco. One buzzes when I throw it to "out" and the other non-de rail fails. I like them because with no power connected they keep the Lionchief on tracks better than Lionel switches like the #5168. I...
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Mailmansteve ·
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Moonman ·
My first question is which transformer are you using for track power? The LionChief DC power pack will not power the switches properly. Secondly, the switches will be overpowered with 18volts of constant track power for LionChief operation. If I recall, the manual recommends 10-12 volts AC. Try setting the track voltage at 14 volts to compromise between engine needs and not overpower the switches. Have you confirmed the correct location of the isolation pins for the non-derail trigger rails...
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Re: Help with switch

Scotie ·
Having light bulbs it sounds like these might be the earlier version that used solenoids rather than the motor/gear/switch.
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Re: K-Line O42 Switch Wiring Diagram Needed

ADCX Rob ·
I posted the complete manual HERE 1/1/17.
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Re: K-Line O42 Switch Wiring Diagram Needed

Dan Padova ·
Thanks Rob. Your always the man.
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Re: O42 Switch Track

ADCX Rob ·
K-Line K-375 & K-376 / K-0375 & K-0376.
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Re: O42 Switch Track

Dan Padova ·
I presume the K-Line versions are no longer made. I did a quick search of some hobby suppliers and found zilch. I'll try Evilbay. Here's a picture of an O42 Lionel O gauge switch. I see five binding posts. Why five ?
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Re: O42 Switch Track

spwills ·
Three for the controller and two for power, maybe?
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Re: O42 Switch Track

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Dan, Check out patstrains.com he had some RMT 072's and might have some 042's left also. He wanted 79.95 each for the RMT K-Line low voltage switches. One word of advise, have Pat test the switches before shipping them to you, for some reason RMT had a problem with their RH Switches, one of then men I know had to return all his RH Switches to Walter, they would not function correctly no matter how we set them up, all his LH switches worked perfectly however. I believe the 2nd batch did the...
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Re: O42 Switch Track

bmoran4 ·
A forum member (not me) has a pair for O gauge Switches 0-42 switches for sale based on the K-Line tooling pictured above: https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...ionel-stuff-for-sale
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Re: O42 Switch Track

phillyreading ·
Try Western Depot as they had some K-Line track for sale and a few switches, look under K-Line and then K-Line track. They may even have some early Lionel/K-Line switches in 042. Lee Fritz
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Re: O42 Switch Track

ADCX Rob ·
Same connections as a regular Lionel 022. They are, from the motor housing out: 1)Common Ground / Outside Rails.........\_ 2)Through/Straight....................................... --> 3 CONTROLLER Connections 3)Curve/Turn/Out......................................../¯ 4)Aux Power In 5)Hot/Center Rail
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Re: O42 Switch Track

Ace ·
Prewar American Flyer O-gauge had switches with O40 curves, compatible with standard tubular Lionel track. I got some manual versions for free but had to do repairs on the manual-throw mechanisms. I'm using them for spur tracks. The no-frog configuration (like Marx) has the advantage of electrical continuity on all rails all the way through the switch. Shown in mid-throw.
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Re: Locomotive Can Not Take 031 Switch

chessie1971 ·
It should take O42 switch sorry but that engine is rated for 042 curves or bigger!!
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Re: Locomotive Can Not Take 031 Switch

ADCX Rob ·
The SD70ACE will take a O-42 switch just fine, but will hit the switch housing on a 042 switch switch as you surmised, as it is the same footprint as the 022 31" diameter switch.
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Re: Locomotive Can Not Take 031 Switch

Rod Stewart ·
Are you talking about Lionel's old reliable 0-31 switch; # 022? If so, there can be interference problems with longer cars and engines with the switch machine housing. Weaver 4 bay ACF's are another car that has interference issues with these switches. I have modded a couple of switches by cutting a triangular piece from the offending corner of the cover using a hacksaw. You could also use a dremel. Then just file everything smooth and cover the hole with a small piece of black electrical...
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Re: Locomotive Can Not Take 031 Switch

C W Burfle ·
Another option is move the switch machine to the "outside" (side opposite from the curved track) of the switch, if space permits. The switch machine is designed to be mounted to either side. It is held on by two screws on the bottom.
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Re: Locomotive Can Not Take 031 Switch

phillyreading ·
Which 031 switch do you have? Lionel post war or a new Lionel or an MTH switch. Lionel's newer O gauge switches # 6-23010 can have the lantern housing cut off to make it fit better. The older post war switch as somebody else mentioned can have the housing turned around on it. You can go to a Ross Custom switch for a better switch all the way around. However you will need adapter pins for O gauge track with the Ross switch. The reason I mention Ross is because it has the switch motor on the...
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Re: Locomotive Can Not Take 031 Switch

Eagle ·
Many thanks to all above. I will try cutting a corner out of the switch housing to see if I can get the SD70ACE into the siding. Unfortunately what I have now is a lot of length room for the layout but not much width. So have to keep the curves are sharp as possible. Thanks again
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Re: Locomotive Can Not Take 031 Switch

servoguy1 ·
Before cutting the switch motor cover, I would take the cover off and make sure the loco clears all of the switch motor mechanism. If it clears, you should be able to see where to cut the cover and you can just put the cover on without screwing it down.
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Re: Locomotive Can Not Take 031 Switch

Rod Stewart ·
If it is indeed a PW #022 switch (the OP has not specified that it is), there are no raised gears or other mechanism between the lantern and the front of the housing (nearest the track). It is perfectly safe to trim either corner of the upper housing. Here is a picture with the bakelite cover removed: Rod
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FS: Large Lot of New and Near New O27 Track (42", 54" Circles and More)

M. Mitchell Marmel ·
For sale as one lot: 16 54" curves (one complete circle) 12 42" curves (one complete circle) 45 27" curves (five 1/2 complete circles) 4 27" half curves 10 8 3/4" straight sections 4 1/2 straight sections Total of 91 pieces. Asking $180 for the lot (just under $2 per piece) plus USPS Large Flat Rate box shipping. All track is new or lightly used, purchased within the last 10 years or so. Original factory wrapping. Not interested in breaking the lot up, so if you want, say, the 54" curves,...
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