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Re: Rail King Dash 8 Proto Sound 2.0 Diesel Died When Attached to DCS Digital Commander

GGG ·
NO should not be the DC. Something else happened. G
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Re: Rail King Dash 8 Proto Sound 2.0 Diesel Died When Attached to DCS Digital Commander

Barry Broskowitz ·
That engine has a PS2 3 volt board and is designed to operate on either or AC or DC voltage. Whatever the problem was, it wasn't due to operating on DC voltage.
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Rail King Dash 8 Proto Sound 2.0 Diesel Died When Attached to DCS Digital Commander

sawtooth ·
My friend bought a Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl Train (30-4171-1) set made in 2006. Everything worked fine until he bought an MTH DCS Commander System w/100 Watt Power Supply (50-1029). The engine turned on after we added it, went about a foot then stopped. It smelled like something electronic smoked. The big difference between the Z-1000T Transformer With Controller, and the DCS Commander is the Z1000 puts AC to the tracks and the DCS puts DC. Could the DC Voltage smoke the engine?
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Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

hearncl ·
There were several posts about this a couple of years ago, but nothing more recent that I could find. The problem is that on tight curves, the footboards attached to the Shay rear pilot beam interfere with the swing of the rear coupler, causing derailment of the attached car. I just obtained a West Side Lumber legacy Shay which has this problem, which I've temporarily solved by removing the pilot beam. It looks like cutting away the inner footboard supports would allow enough coupler swing,...
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Re: Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

gunrunnerjohn ·
Not other than cutting away some of the structure. I have the Legacy two-truck Shay, but I haven't run it on tight curves.
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Re: Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

J Daddy ·
You may be able to find the original K line parts that allows the coupler to swing on tighter curves.
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Re: Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

Joe S ·
There is an extension bracket that K-Line made for the Shays. One was used at each end of the engine to extend the coupler about half an inch, and allow a greater swing. Lionel chose not to make this part when they reissued the Shay. I believe that someone on the Forum had replacements manufactured (but I may be remembering this incorrectly). Cutting away part of the pilot beam actually sounds like a good solution if it will permit greater swing of the coupler. It may look better than the...
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Re: Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

hearncl ·
I'd like to try this, but not on the original part. (There's some chance I'd make a mess of it.) Since Lionel is apparently out of this part, does anyone have a suggestion on where to look for a replacement pilot beam?
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Re: Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

gunrunnerjohn ·
It was discussed about making the parts, but I don't think it ever happened. I may regret not saving the information.
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Re: Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

TrainingDave ·
What P/N from Lionel is it?
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Re: Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

D500 ·
It's the curves, not the locomotive. Physics. A curve that is so tight that a Shay (I have this loco - that is, when it was sold as K-line; same piece) and/or its rolling stock can't handle it is just too, too tight. Don't butcher the loco; fix the problem.
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Re: Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

hearncl ·
Lionel lists parts for all the 2-truck legacy Shay road names, of which there are a lot. I had checked the part availability for my model, West Side Lumber #5. The part number for the Pilot Beam w/Footboards, color Oxide, is 610-1235-071, unavailable. However, I discovered that this part is available for some of the other road names, under P/N 610-1233-071, color Black. I think they are all the same part, just different colors. I will order one of the black ones and hope that I can match the...
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Re: Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

TrainingDave ·
Well it is die-cast and they probably have limited qty of them. You could always wait until the warehouse sale in Nov. when parts are 50% off.
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Re: Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

Pine Creek Railroad ·
HearnCL, I posted pictures of the modification job I did on my Legacy Shay for all to see quite some time ago, do an OGR Search they should still be there for you to see. Once you modify the stairs the 2 Truck Legacy Shay will accommodate 036 curves correctly pulling what ever rolling stock you so desire. PCRR/Dave
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Re: Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

hearncl ·
Yes, that is a beautiful job, but beyond my mechanical ability I'm afraid. How did you cut off the steps and re-fasten them to the pilot beam?
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Re: Question on Amtrak Pennsylvanian train numbers.

Form D ·
Just 42 and 43. 44 was used previously by the later departing Sunday train but is currently not in use (as far as I know).
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Question on Amtrak Pennsylvanian train numbers.

pittsburghrailfan ·
On the Amtrak website, the train information page (attached) for the Pennsylvanian lists the two train numbers I'm familiar with, 42 and 43. But the website also includes the number 44. When would the designation of 44 be used?
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? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Garrett76 ·
Hi, what is the simplest way to connect multiple operating accessories in parallel to power from one CW-80? I will not be soldering anything. Crimping and/or tightening screws attached to terminal blocks is what I'm going for. I'm an amateur at electronics, some pictures of actual products would be very helpful. This is for a Christmas layout and I'd like to be modular so I can disconnect the items and reconnect next year. Thanks Garrett
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

cjack ·
Run 12 ga to a barrier strip with jumpers so you can parallel loads. Here's a picture of one with all the jumpers showing...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

George S ·
Are you also asking about accessory activation wires? Those vary by each type of accessory. Are these all buildings? Otherwise, could you list the accessories you are trying to hook up? Also, you asked about modular connections. There are great ways to use labeled Molex connectors so that you can unplug a module just like you would with a power cord to a wall outlet.
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Garrett76 ·
I am learning from everyone but still not all the way there, yet. I am a visual learner and would really appreciate a hand drawn sketch with arrows showing the flow direction of electricity at each connection point. please clearly label polarity and other relevant points Thanks!
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

wild mary ·
If you use a busbar (not to be confused with a terminal strip) there's no need for jumper wires.
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Trainfun ·
Garrett, if you look at ACDX Rob's excellent diagram you will notice that he says to use a jumper strip on one side of the barrier. A jumper strip is a thin metal strip that looks sort of like a comb. Think of the prongs of the comb and imagine two going under each screw on one side of the barrier strip. Now all of the screws on that side of the barrier strip are electrically connected. So, if you attach your red (hot) wire to any of the screws on the side with the jumper strip all of the...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

wild mary ·
Garrett I see you live in Maryland - same here in Baltimore. If you email me at nicholscharpam@comcast.net I'll give you me cell number. Call me (any time-I'm retired) and I'll walk you through the hook-up. BTW nice job on your web site.
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Gene Dickerson ·
This is what I use, works great!
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

coach joe ·
Garrett, that barrier strip is a fairly common item that should be available at Lowes, HD, ACE, Menard's, Radioshack if you're lucky enough to still have one nearby or any quality hardware store. They come in various lengths so depending on the number of accessories you may want a longer or shorter strip. Look closely at Chuck's picture and you'll see the copper "jumper"wires connecting the cells of the strip so that one power wire from transformer feeds up to six accessories. You'll also...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Garrett76 ·
so, do all the red wires go on one side (top) and all black wires go on other side (bottom)? or is it power wires on the outside (left and right) and operating accessory wires go the middle? a sketch on paper would be helpful. thanks!
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

cjack ·
It's left and right. Each vertical pair of screw downs are electrically isolated from each other. I connect half of them of them together and call that red, then the other half connected and they are black. In Lionel terms that is A and U. Instead of using wire jumpers which I make out of #20 ga wire cut in about one inch length and bending around a needle nose plier in the shape of a U, you can buy jumpers. They come in say 8 or 12 long and I cut off what I need like say 4 in a row to...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

George S ·
This is my favorite way. Black to one side and red to the other. You can even plug in with banana jacks. I made this myself, but MTH and Miniatronics each sell one called a power distribution block. George
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Dave45681 ·
They seem to have one model of the item shown and also the other type of Barrier strip at Lowes (you will have ot change to your local store to see if they actually have it). Barrier Strip #1 . Barrier Strip #2 . -Dave
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ADCX Rob ·
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Garrett76 ·
excellent, exactly what I was looking for. One question- as the wire leaves the transformer and becomes many before connecting to the jumper, how do I simply get multiple wires from one? something happens at that intersection which is not clear to me thanks!
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Garrett76 ·
thanks. questions- is this a common item? Anyone know if it's carried at Lowe's? If not, what brick and mortar location can I get one? is it bare wire ends or do I need to purchase some sort of end connector? what holds it in place, screw pressure? Thanks
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

coach joe ·
Garret, I've borrowed Chucks picture, If you look closely the red wire entering the strip on the left hand top side is hot power from the transformer into the strip, it is connected to the next five cells on the top side of the strip by 5 short, un-insulated copper jumper wires connecting each terminal to the next terminal to the right thus powering six terminals. On the bottom side you can see three red (Hot) wires coming out of three individual terminals, these are the hot wires to the...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Garrett76 ·
thanks everyone. I did go to Lowe's and buy some supplies. Haven't been able to work on it yet
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

JD2035RR ·
There was a recent post that suggested using grounding strips/grounding bars to avoid the need for jumpers. These seemed to be a cost efficient approach at $5.58 for 9 terminal (you can have more than 1 wire in each terminal hole). http://m.homedepot.com/p/Squar...t-PK9GTACP/100161420 Good luck and please update us when you get a chance. Thanks, JD
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George S ·
Grounding strips are made for 14 to 12 gauge electrical wire used in 15 to 20 Amp circuits in electrical boxes. The gauge of wire for most accessories is much smaller, since they draw very small amps. I use grounding strips for track power, but you need to be careful with accessory wire connections. It is possible to reduce the effective gauge of the wire at the connection if only a small portion of the wire surface is making contact with the connector. It can also be difficult making the...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Dave45681 ·
I probably wouldn't have been able to write it up as nicely as George, but I had similar thoughts on the grounding bar and how it could be less than ideal for smaller wires, especially stranded ones. That screw connection is relying on a conductor close to the size of the hole. A properly sized conductor, such as the size George points out, can then reasonably be held in place with the screw. Mashing one (or more) smaller conductors down with the screw will probably not be ideal. You may get...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

John H ·
I use these. Search for 8 way bus bar from ebay. About $9, but make it easier.
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cjack ·
I don't care for the grounding strip in our applications. The only thing it has going for it is that it's inexpensive. I very much like an insulated strip which is more compatible with our wire gauges. Compared to the cost of the layout, each appropriate strip we may purchase is less cost than one piece of track. I think it's important not to focus on one favorable aspect of a choice, but to think more broadly about all the aspects including safety, ease of use, appropriate for the purpose...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

JD2035RR ·
George, John, and Dave, Thanks for pointing out the pitfalls of the grounding strip. I am certainly no expert, so I appreciate your comments. I heard via this forum of someone using those and thought it sounded good at the time. Thanks! JD
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Garrett76 ·
So, apparently I bought the wrong item from Lowe's (pictured). There's never anyone in that place who knows anything about electrical items. I asked the hardward guy if he could open the package and check it out. I was primarily interested to know if the terminals were connected on the long side. He said he couldn't tell but thought they were connected on the inside. They were not as I found out two days ago. In another post, someone suggested a jumper strip which I think can be used with...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

cjack ·
Radio Shacks are .375 inch centers
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

Adriatic ·
It's not a bad idea, they end up being the same thing basically. But is the bar as easily customizable as the strips? Those jumpers can be clipped and groups set up eliminating empty excesses. I see wire too, so what was is its max amp rating?
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John H ·
Good point on the amps. I'm not sure. I just use them for buildings and they are all LEDs. Most accessories don't draw like engines so I messed that up.
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shorling ·
I use these barrier strips from Allied, 28 double rows. I cut them to the length I need.
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

stan2004 ·
Yes. It has what amounts to 2 bus bars, each with 8 positions...plus a pair of wires and connector to feed the 2 bus bars. As noted earlier, there is some question as to its current/power capability - the eBay listing is somewhat skimpy on technical details. I found this Amazon listing which appears to be a similar item. If you go to the Amazon listing and look at the customer reviews, a guy opened it up and had some observations about the internal construction that is worth reviewing...
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

George S ·
Maybe just buy the terminal blocks and jumpers from Radio Shack if you can find one that is still open. They closed four stores around me, but there is one that is 10 miles away.
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Re: ? simplest way to connect wires of operating accessories to one CW-80?

stan2004 ·
OK. So you have 3/8" centers. My guess is Lowe's Utilitech GTB-408-UT is a private-label (or whatever you call it) and close cousin to the big supplier Gardner Bender GTB-408 strip which has 9/16" centers. You'd think these jumpers to make a bus'd connection would be clearly listed as an accessory or companion part to the terminal blocks themselves! And NYC Subway's barrier strip is yet another option with 7.5mm centers. And Garrett asks for as the "simplest way". Anyway, my suggestion to...
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stan2004 ·
Do you have a part # and where Garrett can buy that jumper strip? As others have noted there are different sizes of these strips; if the pic below is the Lowe's product he has I think he needs 9/16" centers - though you wouldn't know it hunting around for dimensions on the Lowe's site!
OGR Publishing, Inc., 1310 Eastside Centre Ct, Suite 6, Mountain Home, AR 72653
330-757-3020

www.ogaugerr.com
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