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AGHRMatt ·
Forgot about the updates in the Premier line. Good advice on using plastic coupler boxes with the 3/2 engines. My SD24's are the original Premier and used the same truck blocks as the SD9's.
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CentralFan1976 ·
Awesome. What I really need are the Lionel ALCo RS-11 and FM H16-44 pilots, with steps... The Lionel ones just aren't up to task. I can add my own cut levers.
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jonnyspeed ·
Nice job. This needs to be done for every MTH, Lionel, and Atlas diesel IMHO since they won't offer the parts.
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Rich Montague ·
Wow! Very nice. I also like your concept for mounting everything. Kudos especially for modeling the actual prototype pilot (unique to the SD 80s and 90s) and not simply fabricating a "full" version of the pilot supplied with the model (a re-used SD 60 pilot). Consider making the holes for the handrails smaller, maybe 0.20. Some of use finer wire for full handrails, and newer MTH models are closer to that. The modeler can enlarge them if heavier wire is used. I dabble in UP and broke down and...
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suzukovich ·
Just updated my thread for older Premier SD24. I also covered the SD9/45 which share the same pilots. To be honest. If he can do MTH SD9s/24/45, Alco C628/630, and GP30/9 that would make life easier. I defintly like the idea of body mounted Kadees. https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...73#61965511445937073
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suzukovich ·
Funny with that I took a look at my Weaver RS11. The pilot turns out although less detailed, did have a correct pilot as in the above pics.
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thor73 ·
Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. I had a little time to play with the model this morning, and I've incorporated most of them, along with a few other tweaks. Here's the latest: I also added some real estate on the coupler mount to allow the use of screws in lieu of adhesive, if desired. The mount will have reference marks on it for suggested locations that avoid some features in the original body shell. There is enough room to allow up to five screws. I should clarify that the coupler...
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suzukovich ·
That really came out great. Thank you for your effort and time. A lot of work but worth it.. Your defiantly filling a void. So what's next?
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Laidoffsick ·
That is one awesome pilot!
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AGHRMatt ·
This really looks promising. Keep us updated.
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Mike DeBerg ·
Eric, Really great work! Definitely looking forward to getting a couple of these to test them out! Will be waiting to hear/see about your initial results! I have a couple Indiana Railroad SD9043's!
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Mike DeBerg ·
Eric, As I'm looking at a couple MTH SD40-2's would be great to see new pilots for SD40-2's with this level of detail! MTH hasn't made these with fixed pilots so the interest level should be fairly high?
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AGHRMatt ·
I can hardly wait. I'll be able to do this consist again (sold the hi-rail Bush 41 when I bought the scale-wheeled Proto-3 version):
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thor73 ·
Hey, if anyone has the newer SD90 models, could you post a couple pics of the underside and chassis? Here is what mine looks like: I noticed as I was taking measurements on my ES44AC that the chassis and shell have features that I assume are there to accommodate mounting of the 2-rail pilot: Just curious if the newer SD90 models are set up like that as well.
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David Minarik ·
I don't know how many of us there are out there but this is very promising! This might be a nice little side business. I am waiting for some end cab switcher pilots lol! These look much better than the spacer, pilot, shell system I made. Nice work! Dave
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Biggs767 ·
Nice work Can't wait to try it out
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Laidoffsick ·
I dont have any ES44s but my Dash 8s and 9s were set up that way. I bought all 3 pwered units as 2 rail but also bought the dummy 3 rail so I had all 4 road numbers. The dummy 3 rail had provisions for a 2 rail pilot but the frame was different and had to be cut as it was too long to attach a spacer and pilot.
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Mike DeBerg ·
Hi Eric, Any updates from the first run of these conversion pilots?
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thor73 ·
Yep, the parts arrived while I was on vacation last week. I haven't had a chance to go over them in detail, but a quick fit check looked promising: BTW, if you are ever in the Denver area, be sure to check out the Georgetown Loop Railroad. They have an operating Shay locomotive as well as a few diesels. http://georgetownlooprr.com/
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Mike DeBerg ·
Eric, Looking really nice!
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AGHRMatt ·
It looks great. Can't wait until they're available. I'm in for three sets.
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thor73 ·
Well, I had a little time over the last couple nights to do a more detailed fit check, and ended up making just a few minor tweaks to the model. GP9 and ES44AC in progress... Enjoy, Eric
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AGHRMatt ·
AWESOME! Great description and instructions on the page. Is the GP9 you're working on for the MTH locomotives?
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suzukovich ·
I just read it too. Great instructions. If your doing MTH GP 9 that will be great. I will need 5 pairs at least.
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CentralFan1976 ·
Pretty slick!
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Mike DeBerg ·
Eric, I have a couple on order now! Looking forward to them. Will post photos! Will be watching for the ES44AC pilots!
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Jeff78rr ·
I really like this, and what an excellent model to do this upgrade to. How much are these going to cost, hoping they are available for re-sale? Thanks!
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theteejmiester ·
Yes! Yes! Yes! Very cool.
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Laidoffsick ·
When you installed the pilot on your Williams engine, what did you use to "bond" it to the chassis/frame? I like the fact that the couplers are screwed into the frame, because they have to be to pull a sizeable load, or even used in a consist with other powered engines.
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Mike DeBerg ·
Eric, Looking great! I thought I recall you saying that the MU, air lines and cut levers are now separate? Are you thinking you might add a tie or holder for the extra MU hose (yellow) you are showing? Are you going to add any rivet detail on the lower sheet for the rear pilot?
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thor73 ·
Ah, the fun stuff! Who doesn't love rivets? I added them on the GP9 pilot as sort of a proof of concept, to see how they looked when printed. But when I looked at a bunch of pics for the SD90 pilot, I didn't' see any. For example: http://www.railpictures.net/im.../5452.1239945437.jpg http://www.railpictures.net/im.../4235.1093403940.jpg http://www.railpictures.net/im.../3296.1218412585.jpg So I chose not to add any. I do want to improve the detail on the cut lever mounting, so I may add some...
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AGHRMatt ·
I really like this -- cleaner than cutting down the die cast pilot and merging it to a spacer. I especially like that the coupler mounts to the steel chassis as opposed to the body. Are these going to be available for sale? I have a pair of SD9043's that would really look nice with these in place. I have an odd mix of MTH (FP45, SD45, SD60, GP9, GP20, GP30, FT, SW1500, H10-44, SD9, SD24, C40-8) and Atlas (B40-8, B40-8W) locomotives I don't run that often if you need to borrow some Guinea...
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Mike DeBerg ·
Eric, Fantastic! I Like the idea of separate details a lot as well as the detail you're building in to these. Looking forward to working with them.
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richtrow ·
This is what I had planned on doing form my all my GP / SD units. Glad to see someone is actually doing it. By the time I get around to that project, chances are I'll be able to buy them on Shapeways!
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thor73 ·
Nothing fancy, just gap-filling CA glue. I did prep the surfaces pretty carefully, though - sanded to remove any high spots and to give the surfaces some roughness, followed by an acetone wipe. Stuff is wicked strong with good surface prep.
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AGHRMatt ·
Following the thread, so my order for three pairs will probably go in about five minutes after I open the E-mail notification. Keep us posted. Given EMD's habit of re-using existing components, I suspect the pilots will be a close fit for other modern "M" series engines.
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clem k ·
I like this thread ! however I already have most my pilots fixed. Sure could use some help on 3 MTH Genesis. Clem
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richtrow ·
Glad to hear the design has the coupler screws going up into the frame. I would be concerned about the load on the plastic alone. So what is Shapeways Frosted Ultra Detail Acrylic like? Is it flexible? Brittle? I wonder how it would hold up in an accident or derailment, especially since it's bonded to the frame. Mounting it with screws would allow you to swap out a replacement if it was damaged, where as the glue-mount might be a real mess to do a second time. I'm not trying to be critical,...
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suzukovich ·
They maybe in real life but there is a difference between the MTH SD9 and SD24 if you look in my thread on the SD24 and the SD45 it will show you what I had to do for a kadee conversion. https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...73#61965511445937073 . The MTH RK SD9 pilot is the same for the RK Scale SD45. The Premier SD45 2/3R is the same pilot used in the Premier 2/3R SD24. The RK use a different powered truck . The RK coupler mount is farther back then the premier which has the 2/3R powered truck...
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thor73 ·
Well it took me a while, but I finally got around to finishing up the detailing and installation on these things. Here are some pics of the end result: With Kadee 740s installed: This engine is a monster, and has massive overhang on O63 curves, which I use in some spots on my layout. So I will probably run mine with Kadee 746s installed: Here is a view of the underside, showing the coupler mount and the interface between it and the pilot: And finally, here it is with a car behind it! The...
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Laidoffsick ·
Those look sweet. Also love the spare knuckle brackets with knuckle on the rear. Excellent detail.
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Jeff78rr ·
That looks really nice!! Great job on the details as well- makes a huge difference!
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Rich Montague ·
Thor, Very, very nice, indeed. Good job on the paint match too. I ordered a set of your parts last week from Shapeways to install on my UP SD90. They should show up any time now. It might be a little while before I find the spare time to prep, paint and install the parts, but I'm looking forward to the project. Thank you for all your efforts and sharing them with us. RM
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AGHRMatt ·
They look FANTASTIC.
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suzukovich ·
That came out great. What's next?
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mike g. ·
Those look GREAT! Just wondering how many different engines you have done this for?
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theteejmiester ·
Man. That is awesome! Wanna buy a SD90 just to convert. Any chance of making these for the Lionel GP30? Or atlas units? And I am willing to send send you one of my locos if needed to use.
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NS1719 ·
Thor73 Could you email me? I have a question for you, my email is in my profile. Thanks,
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thor73 ·
Cool, looking forward to seeing how they turn out! The paint match was dumb luck - Vallejo Model Air Olive Green turned out to be pretty much spot on.
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thor73 ·
The design of the ES44 parts is mostly done, just need to find a few more hours...
 
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