There is a flat spring under the pickup piece that provides the flexing. See the spring in your picture of your post of 12/17/2015. The pick up piece has a slot in one end and a key in the other end that allows it to move. The pickup piece can be cut from some tin can stock with small tin snips. It may have to be made in two pieces. The slot can be made by drilling several small holes. A Dremel Moto grinder with various bits and cut off wheel can be helpful. Charlie
the flexibility i was talking about is how the shoe needs to be pliable enough to mount having to stretch over the end of the fixed part of the pickup and then snap back into shape. if the material is too thin or too flexible it will probably fall off in short time, especially if it is rear pickup. to be fair, i didn't say it was impossible. i once replaced the alternator bracket in my TR6 with part of a screen door hinge but that was because a replacement part (a simple L-shape piece of...
Hello everyone. I'm new to the forums and really just getting started with train matters. I just inherited my dad's old prewar Marx train set, Engine 391. I am refurbishing it and just got it to work after sitting 40+ years. The set doesn't have a lot of track with it so I am looking to see if Lionel 0-27 track is compatible with the prewar Marx 3 rail track. I have the uncouplers and other switches I need for the original Marx track, so I am looking for info on...
Well at least it is there. I would buy a real thin strip of copper at your local hobby shop and cut it to just smaller than yours and solder it right over the top of it, making a new sliding surface. Should have no problem with the tracks, I am pretty sure that they both ran on 0-27.... Marty
The Marx and Lionel pins are slightly different, but I think that you can make the Lionel 027 pins work. Look up Marx333 on the forum member search and shoot him an email. He uses Marx and Lionel 027 together. Look at the photos of his old layout on his thread. He has the 802 curves and metal and plastic base switches in Marx. The rest is Lionel 027.
The pins are differently shaped, but as long as the Lionel is 027, the pins are the same diameter and will work flawlessly together. Marx and Lionel track are mixed rather well on my layout, as they were on my great uncles.
Welcome to the forum. Your engine should work fine on Lionel 027 tubular track - in fact, this track was so inexpensive that I ended up using it for my entire layout. The only thing I would check with your engine is the 027 switches (or turnouts) you would think about using, to make sure your engine can clear them. Enjoy your refurbishing. BTW, i just saw a spool of thin copper that would work for your project at my local Ace hardware store/
I have seen some Marx 027 track and the curves were a different size then the Lionel 027 but should work well together if the curve size is kept correct. The curves looked more like 34 inch in 027 track size. Lee Fritz
Duksnfish, if you can give me a better pic of the bottom of that loco, I think I have that entire unit in my parts box. If it is the same as the one I think I have, you can have it. It came in a box of parts from my father-in-law. when he died, my mother-in-law gave me all his unused parts. Thanks Popi
not easy to tell by the picture, but it looks like you only have a single pickup with the rear pickup completely missing. the Robert Grossman link you got is the best source for replacement Marx parts. with the rear pickup, again from the picture, it's hard to tell if you have enough of the fixed copper "spring" that keeps the shoe in contact with the track, so that may be a problem. if you get the part, it's a very simple repair. photo tip, especially with P&S cameras... avoid white...
Duknfish You can easily make the pickup from a piece of tin can. Or if you want to get fancy and go to the trouble find a piece of brass shim stock at a auto shop or machine shop. It should be about the thickness of the other pickup. From your picture I can see you have an older Marx engine driver wheel, one that has the gear teeth to the outside edge of the wheel flange. If you want get a switch you will have get older Marx switches that will pass that flange. Lionel and most ever other...
the prewar pickup shoe (copper) is quite a complex little piece that needs the shape to function properly. the flexibility of the material needs to be great enough to allow the part to mount yet strong enough to hold shape in operation. imo, not a very easy task for homebrew construction. the Lionel 1024 manual switch (O27) will work with Marx single reduction drives. in Flyer, their #665 (manual) and #688 (remote) switches (O40) also featured the same pivoting frog construction. cheers...gary
The engine, Marx 391, has two points of contact, a front and back shoe. The back one is the one that is in need of repair/replacement as it wont move over the track joints going backward, it catches and has one side broken. A couple of new pics are attached here.
i was dumping photos off my camera this morning, so i took a quick shot of a prewar pickup... i popped off the front shoe which took about 5 seconds. with the pickup off, you can see the fixed copper strip which bends up to form a spring keeping the floating shoe on track. this piece sometimes breaks off which is what i was referring to. as you can see with the rear pickup, these shoes do wear over time. again, good luck...gary
ok... didn't see your new pictures before i posted the last response. you can probably see now that you are missing the entire rear pickup shoe. this is the situation where the bent down spring piece can get snapped off so i wouldn't run it until you get a replacement, though while you're at it, i would replace both and keep the worn spare around in case you run into another repair situation. cheers...gary
Question about Marx 0-27 and Lionel 0-27: when I was a kid you could only find Marx in stores around this time of year, so I bought Lionel 0-27, found year around in hobby shops, to expand my layout, with no notice of any dfference. As for wider radius, Marx did make and include in some sets 0-34, which made possible parallel curves/double track loops. All of these are interchangeable, except, of course for the curve radius you want.
I have a large G scale collection with some MTH engines that contain Proto Sound 2.0. I run everything in conventional mode at the moment and have not invested in a command control system at the moment. I'm wondering if Proto Sound will work with a DCC system. MTH website isn't clear, and I found on another forum, that some functions may work. Does anyone have experience here? Thank You.
I run DCS inside and out with my G scale. You can run the newer PS3 boards with DCC controllers. You can't run DCC and DCS on the same rails at the same time. https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...74#59009562169821174
If you decide to go DCC and start buying PS-3 engines, I can convert your PS-2 engines to PS-3 so they can run on DCC also. Many 2 Rail and DCC operators are doing conversions, not only for the DCC, but polarity. PS-3 can determine polarity and runs regardless of which rail has DCS. No polarity switch or reversing engine on the track with PS-3. G
The Detroit Model Railroad Club • 2 Rail Scale MTH 3.0 Premier - is now the most popular loco on the club layout, we can run them at home on a 3 - Rail Layout using MTH / DCS or at the club on a Scale, 2-Rail Layout using DCC. Must have scale wheels and remove the pick up rollers on 2 - rail scale. Add Kadee Couplers, Metal We use the following, to operate MTH 3.0 Primer locos with DCC. • Engine Driver for a Smart Device and WiThrottle for a iPhone or iPad. Check out these links for, using...
All MTH PS3 engine have full DCC command control built-in. However, PS2 engines do not. This and a whole lot more is all in “The DCS Companion 3rd Edition!" This book is available from many fine OGR advertisers and forum sponsors, or as an eBook or a printed book at OGR’s web store!
I think you have the wrong person, or you have it out of context. So not sure why you are trying to pick a fight. Too much idle time? I certainly would say there is not much benefit for a 3 Railer running DCS to convert a PS-2 to PS-3 just because. I have always pointed out the advantages of PS-3 for 2 rail and DC and DCC operations. G
Imagine that! 6 months ago I remember you grumbling and speaking out that it was not worth the time nor $$$ to convert from PS2 to PS3 as there was no real advantage...how times have changed!! Getting a bit hungry??
I'm just starting out in model-trains. I'm planning on staying within MTH products, but I like the Williams #40602 Baldwin 4-6-0 engine & tender. Would this run on an MTH system using all MTH parts -- including their DCS ? (At this stage I have some MTH engines & cars, and also some Lionel cars. I have not yet bought track, transformer, or DCS.) Thanks for any response & advice !
Yes, with the full MTH DCS system (TIU & Remote) you can run the Williams engine in conventional using one of the TIU's variable channels or by powering a TIU fixed channel with a variable transformer and using the transformer handle. You won't want to run command and conventional at the same time on the same track, separate tracks for each would be much better. If you are just starting with DCS I would recommend the DCS Companion book by Barry Broskowitz, available from the OGR web...
Casey, over the years GGG has helped dozens and dozens of people on this forum (including me) with free advice on troubleshooting or repairing their trains. Let's have a little respect for one of the good guys on this forum. What was probably said (just my guess I wasn't there) was that the upgrade isn't worth it for the typical 3 Railer. It would cost the person over $200 and all they really get for their money is they lose the battery. If I was a 3 Railer I would not upgrade to PS3 unless...
Incase I posted this question in the wrong forum last week... I noticed in the 2016 v2 catalog that the Hi-Rail steam engines are listed as having "O scale Kadee-compatible coupler mounting pads". Is that accurate or was it a printing mistake? In the past only the scale wheel steam had Kadee pads. It would be great if the Hi-Rail models had that option too. Thanks.
I recently bought a set of MTH subway supports that were Fastrack compatible. When I bought them, I didn't realize that the brackets on top of the towers were wider than the set of supports I bought back in 2011 or so. Is there any way to make the "Fastrack compatible" supports work with Realtrax?
Hi, I currently have the Lionel CSX Intermodal LionChief set. I'm strongly considering buying the CSX LionChief Plus SD60M. It seems like a great way to get a scale engine without fully investing in the Legacy system. However, the different scales have me a bit confused. I believe the Intermodal set is "traditional" scale. The LionChief Plus SD60M is "scale". I've also seen the term "standard". What I would like to know is: 1. Will the rolling stock that comes with the CSX Intermodal set...
I have the SOO version. Fantastic is a,good description of the engine. 6464 box cars look fantastic behind i. Railking look sweet being pulled by it. Ps4 box cars look a little big but who cares. The difference in it compared to a scale version are: it's a Little shorter, not as heafty looking, bout as lonh 036 track turning etc... You can't loose. And with BLUETOOTH control similar to Legacy engines. They are pretty close in most rehards, I'd buy more in the right road names .
In my opinion once you go scale it's impossible mentally to go back. You will never unsee non scale. My first scale loco I bought was an MTH SD70ACe and that was all it took for me. I having nothing non scale left now 7 years later. For me some of most obvious non scale items are the lionel and railking traditional husky stacks.
The intermodal set you have is traditional so yes the cars and containers will look small next to your scale SD60M. Lionel is releasing more scale husky stacks those are the ones you want for your new loco.
Thanks everyone for the feedback. At this point I see little reason not to make the purchase. @TexasSP I suspect you're right. For now I'll have to run with the traditional stuff I have, but overtime I'll most likely move to all scale rolling stock. @Jushavnfun Thanks for the pictures. Very helpful. @SuperChiefer84 Thanks for the heads up about the scale husky stacks. I'll keep an eye out for those.
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