Tagged With "Boston & Maine"

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MBTA commuter rail (Boston) signals gone dark?

TomlinsonRunRR ·
On my daily commute, I pass two of what I call PRR-style signals that span double-tracks for the Boston to Fitchburg MBTA commuter rail heading west. I believe the signals have one light per track. One signal is for the block before the Concord station and the other is for the block before the West Concord station. I like to see what colors or combinations the lights are between the two stations and try to anticipate where the train is. In the last month, instead of having a (usually) steady...
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SALE PENDING; PRICE REDUCED 8/9: Sunset 3-Rail ABS RDC pair, Boston & Maine, powered and dummy

B&M1950 ·
Thanks for looking, everyone. Price reduction: $650 (plus actual shipping from NYC in CONUS). I apparently (and sadly) misread the market. I have concluded that I cannot in fact own one of every piece of equipment that ran on the B&M in the 1950's; so despite waiting years for semi-affordable models of B&M RDCs (and these are really nice), I have to make some choices. For sale are 1 powered RDC-1, never run, and 1 unpowered RDC-2, in its unopened shipping carton. For sale together...
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Boston Mattapan Trolley line photo essay

Timothy Sprague ·
came across this in the Boston Globe, a cool photo essay on some old time trolleys still in service . Some nice photos that really bring back some old memories. Another "they don't build 'em like that any more." moment. Tim
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Article on the Status of the MBTA's (Boston) 1944-45 PCC Trolleys

TomlinsonRunRR ·
I just stumbled on this interesting and wide-ranging article on Boston's Mattapan line 1944/45 PCC trolleys. Mention is also made of Philadelphia and San Francisco's historic trolleys: http://commonwealthmagazine.org recent article on Mattapan's PCC cars Awesome moment: they still have cords you can pull to stop the car at your stop. (Memories of childhood for sure.) Tomlinson Run Railroad
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Mix n' Match Tenders

Ericc ·
Hi; Working on a few projects to create some "tinplate" representations of Boston and Maine postwar steam commuter service. I've done some coaches based on using MPC cars. Now I'm starting to work on some tenders for Moguls, Pacifics and Atlantics
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Boston: Gondolas from South Station to the Seaport?

TomlinsonRunRR ·
Not sure where best to post this oddity. While catching up on news about our Noreaster (last night and today), I stumbled on this proposal: https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2018/03/07/boston-seaport-gondola They aren't even trams like a couple of other cities have, but honest to goodness, swinging in the wind over your head gondolas. What possibly could go wrong? Tomlinson Run Railroad
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Layout builders in Boston, MA area?

David Ogletree ·
Hi friends, don't know if this is the right forum to post on for this, but does anyone have a recommendation for someone who does layout building in the Boston, MA area? I haven't run into anyone who does that work up here, but it seems likely there are some good folks around. Appreciate any suggestions! David Ogletree, Needham, MA (781) 799-4335 cell deogletree@aol.com
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Ericc ·
These are some of the coaches for the commuter train....
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Adriatic ·
Ok, why are wires in the rolling maraca? (looking good )
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Ericc ·
Hi A; Thanx for your comment, I can't find where to hook 'em up for the sound of steam.... So; The wires may just be for a back up light... Maybe i'll g crazy and add a whistle n'bell pcb and speaker have a real mish-mash of technologies... eric
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Re: Layout builders in Boston, MA area?

lewrail ·
Try Wally Brooks. 978 447 5372 or 781 844 8452 Marty Fitzhenry used to build fabulous layouts, but I think he has stopped doing them. He and Wally are good friends and often worked together on layouts. Mal Laughlin might be available at 617 489 4383, but he tends to specialize in toy train repairs. Feel free to drop by in Waban and visit my layout. You might get some interesting ideas. Lew Schneider 617 332 0875 or cell 617 633 0875 Lew
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Dave_C ·
Stephen Lamb. Met him at a local shop and looked at pictures of his builds. He builds in all scales but had a few 3 rail layouts. www.layoutsbysteve.com . His site says he is from Lowell MA and his work looks first class. Brian Inch from Maine who advertises in OGR does layout work. Not sure if you are looking for a turn key layout or just help. Mianne benchwork is only a short drive from Needham to Attleboro if you just need benchwork done. Stu Gralnik who builds fantastic structures is...
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Re: Boston Mattapan Trolley line photo essay

Bruce Clouette ·
This line is really worth checking out if you are in the Boston area. Except for replaced seats and added AC, quite authentic. Eight members of our model railroad club made an excursion from Connecticut to ride the Mattapan line a couple weeks ago, and everyone agreed it was terrific. The motorman gave great commentary, and the other passengers were very friendly and welcoming as well. Museum rides ar fine, but just knowing that this was regular transit service made it much more memorable.
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Re: Article on the Status of the MBTA's (Boston) 1944-45 PCC Trolleys

Tommy ·
They renovated the historic station at the end of the line and turned it into a so-called "modern" nightmare on Elm street, completely destroying its historical character. The line would have been a money-maker and tourist attraction if they would have permitted a trolley museum to establish itself on the end of the line and use the right-of-way, but the MBTA has refused such requests many times.
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prrhorseshoecurve ·
The line would have been a money-maker and tourist attraction if they would have permitted a trolley museum to establish itself on the end of the line and use the right-of-way, but the MBTA has refused such requests many times. Well don't you think that's kind of dangerous? Also many of these museums- trough lack of funds/volunteers look like junkyards/ eye sores too! [ from a non railroading perspective]
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RJR ·
For 3 years around 1960 I rode those cars frequently, on the Boston College/Commonwealth line, where they ran in trains of 3 PCCs. Fast, comfortable, and better than driving.
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Tommy ·
New York City banned trolley trains in 1925.
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Re: Boston Mattapan Trolley line photo essay

prrhorseshoecurve ·
I rode that line too about a decade ago and it still looks the same. Worth the ride off the red line. "This is a Braintree train. The next stop, JFK/UMass."��
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RJR ·
I was in school in Boston around 1960, and regularly rode the PCC cars on the Boston College line. They were great. Also, they could out accelerate my Studebaker Commander 6. FWIW, at the end of the Watertown line was a car barn, which had several antique trolleys converted to plows. They could really HUMMMMMM when running.
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Re: MBTA commuter rail (Boston) signals gone dark?

challenger3980 ·
These signals may be operating under Approach lighting (NOT to be confused with APPROACH ASPECT), where the signals are only lit when a train enters the block preceding the signal. The reason behind approach lighting is to reduce the electrical demand, and prolong bulb life, by not having the signal lit when there is no one to observe/obey the signal. There is nothing unsafe about this, if a train was to approach the signal, and it was not lit, the engineer would be required to treat the...
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Re: MBTA commuter rail (Boston) signals gone dark?

TomlinsonRunRR ·
Doug, Thanks for the background. I wondered if it was somehow a cost-cutting measure, even though the fares just went up again. It makes sense to read that safety rules exist for approaching a truly unlit signal. If a signal only lights now when a train is approaching a block, I'll have to keep that in mind and note more closely which colors are for which track during my next 10-second "Where's Charlie" commuting game. Of course the best days are when the train is actually on the track I'm...
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KOOLjock1 ·
PRR style? Jon
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Ace ·
Would it only be older signal systems in some locations that have signals lit all the time? Because"approach lighting" seems like the norm to me for most places.
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Gregg ·
A little off topic but this one would come up in rule classes every now and then. You're on single track CTC territory and have a green (clear) approach signal(single green). When you get to the home signal ,the bottom light is burnt out. You now have a green over a burnt out light. Stop or keep on going?
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Rusty Traque ·
BNSF's 3 track Chicago-Aurora mainline signals are lit all the time due to traffic density. The whole system was upgraded about a decade ago from searchlight signals to three color signals: Rusty
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Ace ·
I'm not up on all the specifics of operating rules, but I would suppose that a light not illuminated should be treated the same as a most restrictive indication. In this example you would proceed at reduced speed expecting the next signal to indicate stop or diverging route ? On the original subject, I would expect constantly lit signals to be used only on heavy-traffic lines with frequent trains, which is a minor portion of total route mileage in the USA.
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Gregg ·
I know the lights are always illuminated in CTC territory at least with CN right across Canada, However I have noticed the lights on CP close to where rail are not always lighted. It's not CTC but maybe ABS or an occupancy block system (a easy system almost like train orders). I have a couple of spots that I check to see if the lights are lighted or not so I might want to watch a train... If the lights go out, the train has gone. Yep ACE... rule 27. you got it. A signal imperfectly displayed...
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RICKC ·
I remember once on NS going east, down the mountain, into Altoona when all the signals went dark. We had to stop at every signal. Man, that seemed to take forever to get our coal train down that hill. To keep our train under control to be able to stop at every signal we had to crawl from one signal to the other. If I remember correctly those signals are every mile. Rick
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TomlinsonRunRR ·
Thanks for the info and stories. I'm off to work but saw the following on the MBTA's 100-year old signal switches: http://www.wbur.org/morningedi...a-signal-maintenance Perhaps more to add later ... Tomlinson (gotta) Run Railroad
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juniata guy ·
I was on a BNSF office car trip between Houston and New Orleans in the late 1990's. An ice storm had hit the entire region bringing down power lines and disabling all the wayside signals and grade crossing protection. We moved at restricted speed, stopping at every dark signal as well as at every road crossing equipped with gates and or crossing signals. The train had to be flagged over each of these crossings. The powers that be finally said "enough" around Crowley, LA and put all of us...
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Gregg ·
I'm glad I wasn't your head end brakeman....Did you also have to take all duel control switches OFF power, making sure the gears were messed and lined for the proper route and then put back on power after the leading wheels of the engine were on the points? No a big problem with one switch but on double or more tracks perhaps 5 switches might have to taken off power to get by one signal.
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Matt Kirsch ·
Must be a NS thing. I cross the NS Southern Tier line on the way to visit my parents and there's a signal a few hundred feet South of the crossing. One of the few times I saw the signal green was when Rich and the 765 was mere minutes away last year. Shortly after that the signal went dark and has been ever since. I only saw it lit once recently immediately after a train had passed.
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New Haven Joe ·
The signals on the UP line between Oakland and San Jose are dark in my area unless a train is approaching. You can tell that a train is coming when the signal turns on. NH Joe
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Number 90 ·
In Southern California, UP and SP used approach lighting on their signals and - when a train approached - lighted both units on 2-unit (2-"head") signals, while Santa Fe signals were continuously lighted and the bottom unit of a 2-unit signal was dark, unless required for a particular aspect to be displayed. Red over dark, flashing red over dark, yellow over dark, flashing yellow over dark, and green over dark were legitimate aspects and the Signal Aspects and Indications page of the ATSF...
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TomlinsonRunRR ·
Well, the signals were apparently lit and working on this northern branch of the MBTA commuter rail but that didn't stop this truck from running through the crossing arm earlier today. Although in fairness to the driver, a medical emergency hasn't been ruled out. Luckily, all passengers were OK. It's a pretty riveting video: http://m.wcvb.com/news/driver-...ickup-truck/41153320 TRRR
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New Haven Joe ·
Everyone involved was lucky to have survived this crash. It is fortunate that the train wasn't going faster when it hit the truck. It will be interesting to learn the results of the investigation to find out why the truck driver ran through the crossing gate. NH Joe
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Number 90 ·
Getting back to the topic, approach lighting is the standard today. Any remaining continuously lighted signals outside of very high traffic areas is on borrowed time.
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TomlinsonRunRR ·
Yes, approach lighting seems to be the consensus here, Tom. Thanks. I went to the MBTA community-focused website but found no mention for the commuter rail signals but three subway lines are implementing new signals for cost sayings. But I do miss seeing the signal lights continuously lit on my drive home. Tomlinson Run Railroad
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TomlinsonRunRR ·
Hi Jon, What I was trying to convey was the shape of the armature, not anything related to signal aspects. For some reason I was under the impression that the Pennsy was the first to install those inverted U-shaped signals that straddled two or more tracks and with lights on disks. So, when I see one of these structures, I think of the PRR, even out in the wilds of Boston and Maine country :-). I could be wrong as to my "facts" as I can't remember where I got that impression from. An...
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Number 90 ·
I feel your pain. For decades I have "read the signals" on parallel tracks while driving, and now, I guess I'll just have to watch the road.
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Dominic Mazoch ·
But if I am driving along the UP Sunset Route west of Rosenberg, TX, I can tell if there is an actual train in the area if the signals are lite.
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Re: Boston: Gondolas from South Station to the Seaport?

prrhorseshoecurve ·
A LOT! Just ask the People who ride the Randalls Island Cable car! They don't work in: high winds [Which tall buildings create at street level] Snow Heavy Rains And Who will be responsible for : the Maintenance? if a cable snaps and people head to the ground? Sounds great but a lot of variable that need to be answered!
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Rusty Traque ·
There was one proposed for Chicago last year, too. Rusty
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Conductor Earl ·
Oh, that kind of gondola!
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joe krasko ·
Who comes up with these off the wall ideas?Don't know about Boston but if it was New York I can bet it would be a disaster...The environmental impact study alone would take decades...
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Re: Boston: Gondolas from South Station to the Seaport?

Railrunnin ·
If you have ever been to Boston you will see this is not a bad idea. We recently went to Lisbon and they have this type of Gondola on their waterfront. Very functional and gets alot of use. Joe - don't know why you think it is off the wall, more like a good option to help people move around congested areas. And if it is shut down occasionally for weather it can join the ranks of airports, trains, and other human transport systems that shut down in bad weather. Paul
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MELGAR ·
These pictures show Dewey Square in front of South Station, Boston during evening rush hour on February 21, 2018. A great and historic place with large numbers of pedestrians and traffic. MELGAR
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Re: Switcher Saturday: 2015-Jun-27

Bob Delbridge ·
Here's a video of my (Battery-Powered, Remote Control) SAL 0-6-0 switching some cars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...amp;feature=youtu.be These RailKing Imperial 0-6-0 switchers have some nice detail and excellent gearing, good job MTH
 
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