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California Lionel Club Layouts?

Timmy ·
Are there any Club Layouts in southern California that are aimed at Lionel LEGACY / Operating Accessories? I'd like to join one, but I am not really looking for hi-rail, as I want to run my Culvert an TTUX/Husky Stack trains. This area seems ripe for...
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AC Supply. What can I use for a throttle

Dan Padova ·
I have an AC supply. It's been sitting on myself for years. I would like to use it to power accessories. It puts out 20 VAC. What can I use as a throttle ?
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Flint Rock Valley Lines

Flint Rock Valley ·
Howdy Folks... I am Proud to present to You my layout as of yet. It's an 8' x 8' of mostly postwar lionel that has a lot of jam packed action. I still need a few things to get my upper level in working order, & plan on finishing it up soon. Now I want y'all to know that these photos (I took J4U) were merely a staging so I could show you what I have going on here. There's still a lot of work to be done in getting everything wired & in running order. I very much hope you like...
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Fastrack question

Dan Padova ·
Looking at the fastback catalog, I see where trackside accessories can be plugged directly into ports on the side of the track.  Wouldn't this mean that the accessory works only when track power is present ?  
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Favorite buildings and accessories.

Cpdaly ·
Hi everyone, I am looking to populate my new layout with buildings and I need some ideas. So what are your favorites?
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k Line Milk Car not operating - Help!

paul4653 ·
Purchased new K line milk car (accessory) about a year ago. Just tried to install into track layout. Does not work and need any suggestions (if anyone has had success) on how to get this fun accessory to work. Thank you.
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Layout for Operating Accessories

Dan Padova ·
As I start to place some ideas down on paper as to how I would like my new layout to look, I'd like to ask your opinions of what you believe a layout that focuses on operating accessories should look like. Let me say that I will have a double track mainline, probably raised on trestles and higher grades, to run fast passenger trains. The accessories will be on the main level and should be readily accessible. I have 18' x 12' to work with. My first thoughts are to operate from the center of...
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Re: Lionel super O track attaching accessories

Vinny26 ·
I also have Super o track. Some of the accessories you list can run on separate power. Others like the log loader need the special operating track rails. These are available on eBay. The ones that use an insulated track can also operate with a super o insulated track with the same hookup. It really isn't to difficult to set them up.
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Re: Lionel super O track attaching accessories

john in western pa ·
I don't completely understand what you are asking, but I'll give it a shot as a Super O user when it was "new" 1958/59 (and so was I). The #145 used either a #145C controller, a sort of switch which went under the track ties; or an insulated outer rail which acted as a switch via the train cars trucks. There are special SO insulated outer rail sections (No.48 tracks). Look for straights with no metal jumpers on the underside between outer rails on straight sections. They are what I am...
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Re: Need help with identifing

Mike welkie ·
They all look like Marx. Anybody correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks; Mike
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Re: Need help with identifing

Waynestrains ·
Thanks Mike really appreciate the help guess I will just sell them . Not that into Marx
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Re: Fastrack question

ADCX Rob ·
Welcome to LionChief!(& LionChief +)
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Re: Fastrack question

Pine Creek Railroad ·
DP, If the wireless accessory is attached directly to the FasTrack it needs Track power to operate, the same way your FTCC wireless Switches need track power to operate via remote control from your TMCC Cab1 or Legacy Cab2. PCRR/Dave
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Re: Fastrack question

Dan Padova ·
I'm not versed on the Legacy or TMCC systems. On strictly conventional layouts, wiring an accessory to track power not only drains power from the train, but causes you to have the loco in neutral when operating that accessory. So most, if not all operators choose to run the accessories from either fixed voltage posts or in the case of transformers like the ZW, use one of the throttles that isn't powering a track. So how does the fastback accessory take-off work ?
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Re: Fastrack question

Moonman ·
The 6-81313 does use track power. LionChief is constant voltage AC or DC and draw little power (2A). The new accessories require low amperage also. The 6-81314 provides a separate power option with a switch and port to connect a LionChief Power Pack. The plug and play accessories can be wired and activated the way that you are used to doing it.
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Re: Fastrack question

Dan Padova ·
Thanks Carl.
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Re: Fastrack question

breezinup ·
I don't have, or at present plan to have, any of the new P&P accessories, so I haven't been following the operational aspects of these items. I have plenty of the older versions for now. However, I know that different accessories often operate best at different voltages, so for best operation it is preferable for each accessory to have its own variable power supply. I have about five old small starter-set transformers, and a ZW, all of which can be used to power individual accessories at...
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Re: Fastrack question

Johnsgg1 ·
<<<I'm curious to know how these various new P&P accessories are controlled to achieve their optimum individual power levels. >>> The new accessories, mostly, have small DC can motors and circuit boards. I've found they operate the same way at 12 or any voltage up to maximum. Once they get operating voltage, increasing the voltage has no effect on the accessory. Fine tuning not required.
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Re: Fastrack question

Matt Kirsch ·
Yes, they don't build 'em like they used to and in this case that's a good thing. Those accessories that require tweaking voltages for proper operation were crude designs using crude manufacturing techniques and crude materials. Modern accessories require no such "tuning" or the pile of transformers and rats' nest of wire that comes with it. You'd think everyone would agree that it's a "good" thing. Apparently it's okay for a train accessory to be broken out of the box? What happened to, "I...
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Re: Fastrack question

Texas Pete ·
LOL! Pete
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Re: Fastrack question

Dan Padova ·
I agree. The older accessories do require differing voltages depending on the accessory. The newer ones with can motors are an improvement however, as Matt has pointed out. That said, having had a layout full of post war operating accessories at one time, it took me quite some time, usually weeks, to fine tune the voltage and accessory so that anyone visiting my layout could operate it.
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Re: SC-1 DC

JohnGaltLine ·
The short answer here is No. The SC-1 uses a part called a Triac to control the flow of electricity. Triac's are perfect for AC power, but almost useless for DC because they can not be turned off if current is flowing through them. With AC power the current reverses polarity 60 times a second (in the US, anyway), thus the Triac has a chance to be turned off 60 times a second. If you had SC-1's laying around you could use one to trigger an AC coil relay, and then use the relay to switch your...
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Re: AC Supply. What can I use for a throttle

Alan Mancus ·
yes you can use it but typically accessories use 16 vac but not always, what is the amp rating on your power supply? Also it should either be fused or a circuit breaker in case of a short, you want the power to go off immediately, otherwise you could burn out your accessories, and if they are MTH they would have electronics boards and you would not want to burn out electrics as they get very expensive! IMHO Alan
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Re: AC Supply. What can I use for a throttle

ADCX Rob ·
20 volts is fine, but how many amps? If it's not labeled, figure about 1 amp/lb. as a starting point. I have used 8 amp 22 volt industrial transformers for powering PM-1's for CAB-1 conventional control. It works well despite the 18 volt design of the TMCC system, but do so at your own risk.
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Re: AC Supply. What can I use for a throttle

AGHRMatt ·
As funny as that sounds, that's surprisingly close.
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Re: AC Supply. What can I use for a throttle

stan2004 ·
Yikes. I'd want that off of me ASAP. OK, understood you've found a solution with your KW. Hijack alert. This being a discussion forum, if we're talking about powering accessories with a spare/unused fixed-output AC transformer, many newer accessories operate on DC input. For example, Menards, Lemax, Miller lighting products take 4.5V DC, animated mechanisms now routinely use DC gear-motor, and accessories with digital functionality must convert Accessory AC to a lower DC voltage such as 5V...
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Re: AC Supply. What can I use for a throttle

RoyBoy ·
Nobody has suggested getting a TPC? That's what I have been using and building layouts with for years. They work great. Supposedly the new Power Masters have all the programming that the TPC did.
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Re: AC Supply. What can I use for a throttle

ADCX Rob ·
While the PM-1 PowerMaster can be used as a plug-n-play standalone with the 6 amp supply and a CAB-1, a TPC requires extra equipment and cabling.
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Re: AC Supply. What can I use for a throttle

Dan Padova ·
I'm not sure you are understanding what I would like to do. The power supply is an LGB 50110 6 Amp AC transformer. I need to vary the output voltage. LGB has a throttle but it changes the AC to DC at the throttle. Isn't there a device that would allow me to vary the voltage coming from the LGB power supply and keep it as AC ? Here are two photos showing the power supply and the throttle. As you can see, the transformer puts out AC only. The throttle, on the right, changes the AC power to DC...
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Re: AC Supply. What can I use for a throttle

Dan Padova ·
I think I'll just use my KW transformer. It doesn't seem worth the effort to mess with the LGB power supply.
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Re: AC Supply. What can I use for a throttle

JohnGaltLine ·
I can think of a couple of ways to do this, but none of them are particularly practical. The first is to go super old school and use a rheostat. You waste a lot of power as heat, but it will get the job done. If you're looking to run accessories at a lower voltage this might work out. Next, you can use a Variac: This will vary the voltage on the input side of the transformer which will, in turn, adjust the output side. While it will work, even a cheap/used variac costs more than just buying...
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Re: AC Supply. What can I use for a throttle

Ace ·
JOHNGALTLINE gave a good rundown on alternate ideas for a throttle controller for fixed voltage output. I use a variable transformer feeding a salvaged step-down transformer on one of my layouts, which works well. I happened to have free secondhand parts on hand for that. Another possibility uses a bank of light bulbs connected in parallel, which as a group are connected in series with the circuit through the locomotive motor. Some of the earliest electric model trains used this method...
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Re: AC Supply. What can I use for a throttle

ADCX Rob ·
I understood perfectly, and now with some specific information, I will stick with using it to powering a PM-1 for CAB-1 conventional control(trains, accessories, lights, whatever you wish). The MTH Z controller will do the same thing, albeit with wires instead of wireless.
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Re: Layout for Operating Accessories

Dave45681 ·
Depending on the diameter you use for the outer main lines, I think you may have quite a challenge fitting everything into a 12 x 18 space. I've got a simple triple loop setup on a roughly 12 x 11 foot area, and using O72 on the two outer and O54 on the inner gives a very small (in terms of square footage) area to play around with for setting up lots of accessories. I have a 2 foot wide gap in the middle, for access, but no duck under/hinge up/etc. Of course, if you use tighter curves,...
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Re: Layout for Operating Accessories

Susan Deats ·
Dan, this was my answer to accessory use and access. Yard photo tour . See all the Yard photos and more .
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Re: Layout for Operating Accessories

Ace ·
Susan Deats in previous post has a nifty long layout for many operating accessories. Her website also has great planning info including a list of space requirements for dozens of new and old O-gauge accessories.
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Re: Layout for Operating Accessories

RJR ·
Don't overlook accessibility, to accessories, to track, to switches, to undertable wiring.
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Re: Layout for Operating Accessories

wolffeone ·
Go to YouTube. Put in, Classic Lionel Trains in Action, then click on Master Luke..... This has just about every Lionel accessory ever made in action on a working layout. At the end of the video there is a very simple schematic of the layout. This video got me back into collecting and running O gauge again. Enjoy
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Re: Layout for Operating Accessories

Dave45681 ·
Have any idea of which accessories and how many? (the answer(s) may depend on how much you are trying to fit in the space). Aside from bridges, not too many accessories would be a good idea on the high speed line, as there may be enough movement in the passing trains to strike something (and some larger scale trains might not fit past some accessories without damage at all - some may be too wide, others may be too tall (double stacks come to mind)). You even have to be careful with bridges,...
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Re: Layout for Operating Accessories

Dan Padova ·
I am talking about all of the post war accessories Lionel made, including some American Flyer pieces. Coal loaders/unloaders, Log ramp, Barrel loader, Cattle or horse car, Various forklift operating accessories, Milk car, etc. Of course things like radar and floodlight towers, along with other items like the operating switch tower, signals, etc. will also occupy some space. As mentioned, the high speed line will be somewhat separate from the freight section. The HS trains will have their own...
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Re: Lionel super O track attaching accessories

John23 ·
The adapter pin set is #022-500 (this will allow you to connect a bascule bridge to Super O), and the accessory adapter track section is #38. Both are available from Mike Spanier, and can be found on ebay sometimes as well.
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Re: Lionel super O track attaching accessories

John23 ·
Re the Bascule bridge, there are adapter pin sets for O gauge/Super O track that would allow you to use it. There were also special half track sections made that you could attach special lock ons to, such as for the crossing signal or the one for the barrel car. You can find these on ebay, or check out the Super O Yahoo group. The moderator there is Mike Spanier, who also deals in SO and can find you anything - including the remote control blades. Re the 2065, it should work okay. Engines...
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Re: Lionel super O track attaching accessories

WftTrains ·
First, welcome to the Forum. I have Super O Track, too, as well as Gargraves. While this is an excellent Forum covering all aspects of O Gauge Railroading, as already mentioned there is a Yahoo Group dedicated to Super O track. Here is a link: Click here: Lionel "Super O" Trackage - Yahoo Groups Over the many years that Group has existed, members have posted questions and other members have posted answers regarding how to install and wire accessories such as those you mentioned. I and other...
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Re: Operating Accessories

pwrwgn ·
The coal loader is fun. Lots of memories of spraying coal all over. This is an old photo, but notice the coal all over the place. This is something to consider. A gantry crane is fun too. One of these days I will have them up and running again. About to start wiring
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Re: Operating Accessories

Dave45681 ·
I can think of 3 off the top of my head, but there may be a 4th I am forgetting: 1) N&W that came out same time as the ramp (6-19885) 2) Burlington (6-26779) 3) Texas and Pacific (6-26748) These all came out in the early 00's right with or within a couple years of the 456R. I used ebay searches to find the item #'s (can't check my own at the moment), so please make sure before you actually order something. These should give you a good start point though. -Dave
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Re: Operating Accessories

graz ·
The ones that I have which have the new, can motor design are: icing station switch tower culvert loader culvert unloader Forklift platform they all operate smoothly, quietly and reliably.
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Re: Operating Accessories

bigtruckpete ·
I'd second The Great Graz and his comment. I use the modern versions as they are so smooth and quiet. Plus I don't hesitate to weather and paint the remakes into something more realistic looking.
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Re: Operating Accessories

Dan Padova ·
So, with the 456R coal ramp, which hopper do I need to look for that will operate with it ?
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Re: Operating Accessories

mikey ·
I would look at the new 282 style Gantry Crane the is self propelled,lots of play value. Mikey
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