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brianel_k-lineguy ·
Good ideas Ed. And yes, there have been a good many posts here saying what you noted in your introduction: That DAD has a layout... the layout belongs to dad and he let's his son run his own train on DAD's layout. Which is fine, but it is not the same attachment and involvement as letting a child have HIS OWN layout, that he was allowed to make decisions on and that have HIS ideas incorporated into the layout. Your listing is certainly a complete one, though I don't every single idea is...
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baltimoretrainworks ·
kids like throwing switches (turnouts) kids like operating accessories and operating cars; have plenty, let them operate them automate less: it's better to having a crossing gate controlled by a switch they have to remember to push, rather than triggered by the presence of a train. Remembering in time is part of the game. Scenic realism seems not important to most of the kids. kids like to move vehicles, people and animals; let them Kids like lights Kids like things named after them and also...
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Layout for Your Families' (grand) Kids

Ed M ·
Unless we get the next generation involved the hobby will die. The layout I built in in the 50's was for kids and by kids (me and sib's; no parental involvement). The one I built 35 yrs later was for and built with my son. Layouts now appear to be built for and by an older generation. Very Different. I suspect that most of the current layout builders are empty nesters and the only in-family kids available are grandkids. I am building and operating a layout for/with grandkids (4: 5-14). My...
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BradF ·
Rich Melvin wrote an article a few years ago about a very nice fold away layout he built for his grandchildren. I don't have the run number handy but someone my chime in with it. Brad
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FireOne ·
Great forum topic guys. I have a very kid friendly 7ft x 9ft layout with operating accessories close to the edge of the layout for easy viewing and control by little ones using Lionel #90 Controllers mounted on the edge of the layout set in plexiglas strips with labels for each on the back of the plexi. They control lights and other items from the buttons too, even if they don't read the labels, they have fun pushing them just to see what they do. The older kids run the trains, but I have...
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Dan Padova ·
Pretty much all that has been said makes sense to me. Kids like to be at the controls, so the layout should be simple to operate. That doesn't mean just a loop of track however. There are plenty of standard Lionel track plans designed to fit a 4x8 sheet of plywood, the most readily available piece of lumber on the market. Whether or not to run post war or newer production is up to you. I think there are many items from both eras that will perform well for kids. In my mind, action, above all...
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Ed M ·
Elaboration on two items in my original post: "10. Real operating mode needs to be able to get complicated enough to hold their interest over the years. For me this dictated a minimum size, and other aspects of the layout 13. kids like operating accessories and operating cars; have plenty, let them operate them." I wasn't sure the general topic would generate discussion so I didn't get into the following detail earlier. Kids don't know about freight operations. Since they are central to...
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Miggy ·
Really great, thoughtful ideas here. I congratulate the common thread which looks to be "let them play WITH it." Whenever I went fishing with my youngsters, I just made sure They Caught Fish. When the snoopy pole went into the water, we scooped it out and practiced again. Give them a plan B, show them how to put the train back on the tracks, cause when you go too fast, it tips over.. And when he runs the new MTH Reefer on the carpet, "Grab the caboose and join him" Great Line. Super Topic,...
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Doug Murphy ·
Great ideas! I think a set-up should be age specific or I guess a better way to say it would be 'ability' specific. We built an elaborate low-to-the-ground layout for wooden trains when the kids in my life (and their friends) were little. Then built a loop with two sidings on a standard table-top with folding legs featuring a Thomas set - with wonderful open Troublesome Trucks that held anything. And lots of misc. on the top of the layout - toys, buildings, cars, a grade crossing and gateman...
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stangtrain ·
When our two grandsons turned five, I built each a 4 X 8 layout in their garages complete with a Lionel starter set for each. In addition, I added accessories and additional cars for each over the past 4 years. Both enjoy their trains and have fun running my trains when visiting as well. In addition, my granddaughter, now 6 asked for and received her own "Pet Shop Express" Lionchief starter set that she brings and runs here when she visits. Her older brother tolerates her running her train...
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Bermuda Ken ·
Absolutely TRUE!!! Kids today can not AFFORD to get into O scale. Its' just too spendy!!! A new Loco is $300-$1500, cars are $50 each, add in track, transformers, scenic, ect and you have the price of a good car wrapped up in it! I think most kids see it as whimsical fun, but prefer to invest the $$ into a PC or tablet or living life. For myself, it took many years to become $$$$ available to get some nice running equipment and a layout. I do share my layout with the kids. They run Chessie...
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romiller49 ·
Face the facts. Model railroading including O Gauge is not a kids hobby. Go to any train shop or train meet and all you see is adults. The hobby, as always, will survive. Rod Miller
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Ed M ·
Need to clarify "impossible to run a train off the table (removable clear barriers, which also let you control the access of the little fingers of the littlest ones)" The table is against one wall; the other 3 sides are accessible. There also is a "Y" shaped 24" wide internal walkway, accessible from the bottom of the Y. Of all the open edges, walkway and outside, perhaps 2/5 have the barrier - only where running off the table is a risk. The barrier is clear plastic, mostly 36" lengths, in a...
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El Classico ·
As a teenager who has been in the hobby for 9 years, I will say that yes, O SCALE is out of reach of the younger generations. O GAUGE, however, is not; I have managed to create a rather large layout and collection through a combination of letting family know what my interests were (grandad is a hoarder on the search for "new" things, and great grandparents frequent garage sales) and keeping an eye out for the deals at the shows and on the internet. Thanks to that, I have a mixture of classic...
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El Classico ·
I will disagree with some things. I do believe that it is a matter of trains being seen as childish with the current generation, and they refuse to see otherwise until they see them running themselves beyond the initial "train set" on the floor. This is opposed to the view that seems to be held here that they cannot afford it; rather, a mixture of possibly being seen as a social outcast, plus a poor introduction and/or overprotective parents tend to be what keeps them out. I will second the...
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RaritanRiverRailroadFan4 ·
Ok, for starters. The hobby won't die. There will always be somebody interested. For a good layout.. hmm. Well this list is taking into consideration layouts on the floor and layouts on tables. 1. Motive power and electronics. I find steam to be the motive power that draws all the kids in. This goes for postwar, prewar, and modern engines. TMCC, Legacy, DCS, LionChief, and Conventional are all great systems but I prefer and recommend TMCC and LionChief. Of course if your aiming for a postwar...
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abbrail ·
Ed, This is a great topic, and one very important to me (although from the viewpoint of a parent rather than grandparent). You've amassed a great list of thoughtful observations. I do have some thoughts on #6 though. 6. Imossible to run a train off the table (removable clear barriers, which also let you control the access of the little fingers of the littlest ones). Over the years, I've read this a lot on the forum but it's a big mistake. For kids to develop a strong interest in this hobby,...
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Alfred E Neuman ·
Agree. Hardly have known any boys who did not have a Thomas & Friends or Imaginarium Express "layout." They migrated from there to sports and video game systems ... and now iPads ... not to model railroading. What, me worry?
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Ed M ·
There are three different kids groups, all important, being addressed in the comments: kids/teenagers functioning solo or only with age peers (how most of us started) kid(s) and involved parent(s) grandkids with grandparents driving the effort. The groups have different advantages and challenges. The original post (and many or most of the replies) was aimed at the third group. As described at the top of the original post, group 3 probably has the advantages of boxes of old gear, more money...
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AMAZING KITS TO BUILD WITH YOUR GRANDKIDS - PERFECT FOR THE HOLIDAYS (Lionel, Korber, AHM, etc.)

Grandpa's Trains ·
Hello! I'm back after a brief hiatus (school) and I'm selling the following items given to me by my grandfather. These kits would make terrific gifts for the holidays!! I certainly always loved building these when I was younger, so I'm sure your family will love them too! Korber Models Kit No. 304 Steam Locomotive Roundhouse Never used Price: $200 (shipping not included) Korber Models Kit #969 General Light and Power Office Building New in plastic (plastic is torn) Price: $45 (shipping not...
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Grandpa's Trains ·
Items that have SOLD and are no longer for sale: Gauge Rail-Roading Ameri-Towne Building Kit Granato’s Grocery #874 AHM 7209-2498 Indiana Harbor Belt 080 Locomotive and Tender Kit Korber Models Kit No. 920 SoreGum Candy Company Korber Models Kit #969 General Light and Power Office Building Lionel 6-12904 Coaling Station Building Kit Lionel 6-62709 Rico Station Building Kit Items still available for sale: *LOT OF 3* Walthers Cornerstone Series Structure Kits Korber Models Kit No. 304 Steam...
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GVDobler ·
I think the Lionchief (or any brand) with Bluetooth may be the key to the castle, so to speak. My little visitors all have an IPhone, Ipad or such device. They are always on it. I said hi to one of them and it startled him because it wasn't coming from the screen. Ha
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raising4daughters ·
Agree. My youngest (10) loves her LC Thomas and our LC+ Mikado. Simply to operate, but SHE and her friends operate. They don't like being tethered to the transformer for conventional. Thinking I need to upgrade her WBB Girls Engine with ERR components based on this lesson rather than leave it conventional.
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Doug Kinsman ·
My kids (4&2) are pro's with the simple lionchief stuff. Throttle, horn, bell, and announcement all right there with big buttons. I limit track voltage to about 40% so the speeds don't get too crazy. The 4 year old understand how the switches work to an extent. Consider a starter lionchief set with two wheel trucks as they are much easier for the kids to put on the track without shorting the layout and the couplers are static so it eliminates that complexity as well. Then they can grow...
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OldMike ·
Great thread. Once I saw this flatcar with excavator at Menards I had to order one for carpet central. My son is a landscaper and has heavy equipment, my 4 year old grandson,loves to ride in it. The excavator also has lights and sounds.,it also so happens all my rolling stock is Pennsylvania, so it is also a fit. My Carpet Central is not much by anyone's standards, wife factor setup in the living room. But this i believe will add to grandsons enjoyment. It has only been set up since January,...
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raising4daughters ·
Thanks for this timely thread. I'm building an 8 x 11 bedroom layout now and am 80% complete with it and the around-the-ceiling layout. 3 of my kids are 20-25 and the other is 10, so I figure this will be more for grandchildren than children. I think I'm going to rip out some of the insulated tracks and put in push buttons for things like the gateman and crossing gates.
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raising4daughters ·
I also remember loving to play with my granfather's gang car because I could change its direction by letting it hit my hand.
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OldMike ·
My timing is great. Son I going to pick this up today. My Menards one should arrive shortly. Oldmike
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Kirk R ·
Love this thread! The 9.5'x13.5' layout I'm planning will be chock full of accessories for a 5 YO boy and 8 YO girl. It'll begin conventional with outer two loops (one elevated 7-8") for Daddy's nicer trains but inner loop for yards (Inglenook), industry operations etc. Received my final PW accessories today - ice station, cattle car and forklift (pics attached). Hope they work but if not kids will help with repairs. Main industry is lumber: will have an On30 gauge route between two...
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OldMike ·
I really have to hand it to Lionel with the Lionchief remote. Yesterday my 1 1/2 year old grand daughter was able to operate a train on carpet central. They have a winner here,especially if the engines will hold up over the years. oldmike
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Deuce ·
My son is three. Will turn four this summer. He wasn't interested in building the table. Here are the things he was interested in (and my appreciation for people on this forum for clueing me in on many of them). 1. Lights. I have a bunch of accessories that light up and/or flash. Son loves to "night run" the trains, which involves having all the accessories on, and then turning off the lights in the workshop. 2. A loading dock and plenty of gondolas and hoppers in the train's consist. Other...
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Ron_S ·
Something that seems to be missing is that it doesn't have to be ON track, have a combination of Brio/wind-up and simple switchers at the beginning for them to run and play with, I built a simple oval with a central siding for an industrial or passenger station terminus, and let my grandkids play with ALL of the trains on the Brio, floor or simple layout, when they really are interested, I have a Chuggington train that I put on my Overhead layout that they run and watch, often getting dizzy...
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Evidence of return on investment

C&Osteam ·
One main reason for building my layout- time for “PaPa” to share life lessons with grandkids. I had the opportunity to share the layout over xmas. Beckham is 21 months old. Two weeks later....
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MELGAR ·
The best money you ever spent! It has been the same with my grandkids. MELGAR
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GeoPeg ·
Now that put a smile on this crusty ol' face!
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C&Osteam ·
To be fair, he’s at the library
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Scrambler81 ·
I miss those days with my boys, and they were cut short for my youngest. We moved when they were 5 and 2. New kids the older boy friended informed them that Thomas was “stupid”, and both boys stopped playing with them. I am still ****ed off at those kids. Still have all of the wooden trains, just in case....
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Greg Houser ·
Those wooden Thomas the Train items are about the only thing I saved from my sons possessions when he was young. They're still in good shape and hold their value well not that I'd sell them. He can use them for his kids one day. He can have everything but the train table - I used that to hold all my power supplies, controllers, etc for my layout. He quickly graduated to real trains but like most, lost interest around 7 or 8. Fortunately, we share common interests in other areas and as...
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rockstars1989 ·
Good for you C&O Nick
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Phil McCaig ·
Not even 2 yet & has his own turntable. That does it! I'm ordering one today. lol
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Rod Stewart ·
I thought "return on investment" might have to do with our O Gauge trains. Now that would have been funny! Seriously that age is great for an intro to trains. My 4-1/2 year old grandson has been playing with Brio since about age 2. Loves it. Rod
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C&Osteam ·
Rod The investment is in my Trains- toward the end of capturing time and teaching valuable lessons to my grandkids. (Similar to bait) Beckham was thrilled over xmas to see my layout, and is now enamored with the “Choo choo.” This part is a bonus. I understand that Sir Rod Stewart has built an enormous train layout.
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Ed M ·
I'm the guy who started this thread. Great comments. Lots of comments about Lionel Chiefs with their remotes. I'm just starting, with 2 (!) so two kids can be running at the same time. Great first impression of the impact on the kids, will report back with results in a month or two. I have another related thread going. It has a lively discussion going about realistic freight operations for kids, starting with the layout I described at the top of this forum. FYI. It is " Real Freight: Anybody...
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seaboardm2 ·
If I where a grand dad I would get an lionel set and add a few boxcars.Then get a mth steam locomotive a few cars.A plasticvile buildings maybe a few autos.As to a layout I go with the 2 4X8 boards.I would keep kind of low to the floor.Oh year I would also add a set of lincoln logs.That is sure to add to the fun.
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Choo Choo Charlie ·
If you want the model train hobby to stick you should get those kids from say 8 to 14 years and up to be involved and help design and build the layout. Kids that age should be able to figure out a track plan and do much of the construction. That way they will learn building and repair skills, tool skills and be more interested in their layout, verses your layout. Charlie
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palallin ·
Gotta take issue here: This characteristic describes my Marx, PW Lionel, and MPC, but NOT new Lionel (at least). Give 'em some older stuff (sure, service it) and stop worrying about the exorbitant, rapacious price tags on the LC and Legacy stuff. If it wrecks, it will likely survive; if not, less loss in $$$. BTW, there is no law that says you must throw phones, tablets, and other gadgetry at kids from the cradle. If they are absorbed by it, it is because YOU permitted it. You don't want...
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seaboardm2 ·
That is a pretty good idea lots of old lionel and early mth railking.I still have an early railking erie berkshire.Still runs and pulls a fare sized train.
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Ed M ·
Great layout! Strongly agree on push button accessory controls, at the accessory, which is near the edge of the layout.
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Johnsgg1 ·
I built this 16 x 16 layout with the Grandkids in mind. Can operate four trains at once from 031 to 072. Two main reverse loops. All switches are command controlled. All Lionel operating accessories are located on the outside and are push button controlled (as opposed to CC). Conventional, TMCC, Legacy, Lion Chief all operate fine on it. They've had a ball running trains, loading, unloading, etc.
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Ed M ·
More great ideas! My challenge, however, which the title of this string captures, relates to grandkids vs kids: As a grandparent, you don't control whether they have phones, iPads or the like. The parents do. And their peers have them. So the presence of and interest in those items and the attendant apps/games is a given. Geography and time. My grandkids live 45 minutes away (and we see them frequently). This is a lot better than them living across the country, but it is a major constraint...


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