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Custom built O scale 36 foot Boxcar for Hi-rail 3-rail model railroad.

pro hobby ·
Custom built O scale 36 foot Boxcar for Hi-rail 3-rail model railroad. This is a 3-rail model of a 36 foot wooden boxcar having K-style brakegear and vertical handwheel. It is typical of early wooden boxcars that have been converted from truss rod underbody to a later style steel underframe. The model uses Lionel Bettendorf style sprung trucks. The boxcar is a freelance design.  Not all details have been added. No lettering has as yet been applied. Photos of similar prototype boxcars...
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Ever Tried BuildingTinplate Styled Railroad Cars and Locomotives?

Khayden93 ·
Any tips on building scratch built O-27 tinplate styled railroad cars and engines? I have found this http://www.littleglitterhouses.com/MakingTinTrainCars.aspx article and will use some of the tips to build a car or two. Just wondering if anyone else...
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Firewood ·
Here's the nibbler http://www.kleintools.com/cata...g-tools/nibbler-tool and there are a few Chinese hand punch sets out there you can pick up for cheap just to play around with. http://www.harborfreight.com/9...d-die-set-95547.html I tried making a few Marx-type chassis and Brit O scale body parts. You can find some custom pics on www.marxtin.com Click the 'customs' tab on the right. Best thing is to lay out on paper or Strathmore and get a mock-up made before ya start nibblin'. I used to...
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BetaNuSigmaPhi ·
I cut roughly my pre-coated sheetmetal with scissors/sheetcutter and punch the holes with a broken screwdriver without caring about tolerances... ...as you see the bad quality of my handcrafted results. Originally Posted by Firewood: Here's the nibbler
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Adriatic ·
Not really any trains but I grew up around metal working. If you get into this big time, price a small metal break(bender), and a real punch will take all the abuse you can give it. Fast, no drilling, circles, squares, etc.. Here is the smallest they make, mine(xx) is 45-50 years old, with a bench mount adaptor Roper-Whitney (I am just as likely to use a screwdriver on the thinner stuff )
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handyandy ·
I built a tinplate styled electric outline locomotive awhile back, but due to a lack of proper metal working tools I built it out of wood, styrene and PVC pipe! Totally free-style I used styling ques from prewar tinplate, including the std gauge Lionel 33 (no frame). Subtle weathering makes it look like it could be old to the average person.
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Pine Creek Railroad ·
K, I have restored a bunch but never built any from scratch, as Steve points out there is a lot more to doing it right, than one might think. PCRR/Dave
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Firewood ·
This is the one I like and keep referring to for ideas: http://www.tinplatetimes.com/Modern%20tinplate/SterlingSingle/sterling.htm Also this beast on a Marx frame would look pretty cool: http://tinplategirl.com/2011/07/19/013-steam-shovel/
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handyandy ·
Does that nibbler tool (mentioned on the Glitter Houses page) also work for cutting the slots for tabs and in the couplers?
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BetaNuSigmaPhi ·
Originally Posted by leikec: Seems to me there was a thread with pictures of homebuilt tinplate not too long ago. Maybe 2 months old? Jeff C Yes, there was another thread about this topic. There two scratch-building directions, either to copy replicas of historic vintage toy trains or to manufacture you own trains out of sheetmetal, like I did.. Www.Saunalahti.fi/~likosjo/tinplate/tinplate.htm
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sawdust43 ·
for what it is worth... here's a copy of the basic car body plan i used...i understand there is a much better plan posted somewhere in a book about marx trains but i have not been able to find... my very best regards... http://www.littleglitterhouses.com
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Khayden93 ·
Originally Posted by sawdust43: for what it is worth... here's a copy of the basic car body plan i used...i understand there is a much better plan posted somewhere in a book about marx trains but i have not been able to find... my very best regards... http://www.littleglitterhouses.com Thanks so much this will help a lot
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sawdust43 ·
Good morning… “Nibbler” was not used to cut slot in coupler blank…but I did use “nibbler” to cut out coupler blank… Here’s how I made slot… Layout location of slot…Drill series of closely spaced, small holes in very straight line through coupler blank on layout line…Punch through remaining metal between holes with small straight tip screwdriver…True and clean up slot with an old fashioned “ignition points file“…(if you can find one)… Note…it’s much easier to buy new couplers than make your...
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ReadingFan ·
Here's a whole set: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOpIw-0UOhE
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Steve "Papa" Eastman ·
Thomas only made the engine. The coaches are repaints. He has a major advantage of having lathes, mills etc at available to use. Steve Originally Posted by ReadingFan: Here's a whole set: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOpIw-0UOhE
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electroliner ·
You might want to check out the latest issue of Garden Railways as it has an article by Marc Horovitz called "Scratchbuilding Day Coaches in Tinplate" While it's in Large Scale, the article may be useful with techniques etc. Also more detailed "how to" articles are here: http://tinplategirl.com/
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Khayden93 ·
Originally Posted by electroliner: You might want to check out the latest issue of Garden Railways as it has an article by Marc Horovitz called "Scratchbuilding Day Coaches in Tinplate" While it's in Large Scale, the article may be useful with techniques etc. Also more detailed "how to" articles are here: http://tinplategirl.com/ Thanks I'll take a look
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leikec ·
Seems to me there was a thread with pictures of homebuilt tinplate not too long ago. Maybe 2 months old? Jeff C
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Re: The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
Would a Packard that was really a rebadged Studebaker be considered an orphan car? The following would be a fun car in 1/48 scale for a transition era layout -- or, just as a conversation piece on the layout - Sort of makes the 1958 Edsel look attractive by comparison! 1957 1957 Studebaker-Packard Clipper Packard’s were known on the street as Packardbaker’s what they were was a re-designed Studebaker with a combination of components only two models are offered now, the Clipper and a Country...
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Re: The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

colorado hirailer ·
Since this layout is dated Sept. 30, 1940, only a 1937 Hudson Terraplane is parked on the street. I am a fan of "orphan" cars, the dozens of makes made in America 1925-1935, so forthcoming Graham's and as many as they produce of Nash's, Lafayettes, weWillys, etc. will be found here. There is a 1930 Hudson roadster available from Brooklin, but not likely to be found in small ranch and mining towns. My long since retired dentist drove a Hudson stepdown convertible in college, and was trying to...
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Re: The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
Gotta love those original "High End" Packards. The Packard was the pinnacle of luxury, until the line was cheapened by consolidations with competitors from the low price market. My maternal uncle spent his life working at Packard - Zio Joe, or, Uncle Joe. He convinced my father to buy a dark blue lower end Packard in the 50's, but, by then the low end line had been compromised by cheapening, much like many Lionel products in the 1960's. Thanks for the AWESOME pic!!!
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fastman ·
Hudson's were a great car. The parking brake cable was connected to the foot brake pedal,and when properly adjusted,would stop the car if you had a hydraulic brake failure and the foot brake went beyond the halfway point. The big 6 cylinder was a high nickel cast iron and was very seldom cracked around the valve seats
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J Daddy ·
"But, I was wrong. It was actually the 1948 Hudson Motor Car Co., that introduced the modern car." Not sure about that comment... The Packard Motor Car company was rivaled to be the first true American Modern Car... Packard had quite a few modern appliances that introduced on their vehicles... Like Air Conditioning, The Modern Steering Wheel, and the almighty 12 cylinder engine... Well I am biased, they were a tank in the late 40's but talk about luxury! My favorite was this one: The 48...
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El Classico ·
I might be biased, but Hudson and Studebaker made some pretty sweet rides just after the war.
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J Daddy ·
"Chrysler left ALCO to join GM." Looking back at this comment today, it just sounds so wrong.
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Re: The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
Interestingly, President Lincoln drove a Studebaker!!! Studebaker was a HUGE manufacturer/fabricator of carriages, even in the 1800's. Billy Durant, the creator of General Motors, also transitioned from the carriage business -- makes sense; horse-drawn carriages to horseless carriages. The nascent auto industry was "stuck" in the mode of using tremendous amounts of wood in the manufacturing of the early automobiles. Henry Ford, an early and ardent recycler, was distressed by the enormous...
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Re: The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

AMCDave ·
I rode from Los Angles to WV twice in the back of a Studebaker Lark Wagon. It replaced a 57 Rambler of Dad's. So I too have a spot for orphan cars....to this day. Having been a mechanic and working on cars from 1937 to present I think many orphan cars were better than the mainstream cars. They were run by geniuses that could not tie their shoes. Kinda like Beta was much better than VHS but who won?? Checking a 1937 Hudson after engine rebuild.....one fantastic engineered car.
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colorado hirailer ·
People did buy and drive Studebakers and Kaisers. I remember through the 40's and 50's there were many Studebakers on the road, and l liked the Lark. My grandfather's best buddy from the L&N shops showed up in a Kaiser at the farm gate, and my grandfather, a "Chevie Man" from the 1920's, was not impressed. I can't remember if it had painted vs. chrome bumpers, but it was a special, trimless bargain model. My grandmother's brother was a telegrapher in Mich. who drove Hudsons and swore by...
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Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
J Daddy, you're right, His move to GM was probably a big loss for ALCO. But, Walter P. Chrysler left ALCO to join GM for only half of the salary. Chrysler thought the future was in the nascent automobile industry, and jumped at the chance to join GM and help revolutionize the auto industry with his considerable skills at metal fabricating. Chrysler did well: he built a skyscraper in New York with his name on it, The Chrysler Building!
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Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
Dave, I couldn't enjoy your posts, or the other posts on this thread any more, and they aren't off topic at all. In this regard, George Brown's Product reviews in OGR are among my favorite articles, both for the reviews, and, for the detailed "Real Trains" analysis that precede's each specific product review. This topic is about "Real Cars", their parentage, history, evolution etc., and, how the development of these automobiles parallels certain developments in railroading. It's also about...
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Re: The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

prrjim ·
Since I model 1946-48 steam era, I would display them. I have cars pre-dating up to that time frame on the layout.
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RJR ·
Those late 40's Hudsons tore up the stock car racetracks. I owned a 1950 Studebaker Commander Starlight Coupe (245ci 6-cylinder, 102HP@3200RRM, 4-3/4" stroke, overdrive) & upon graduation bought new a 1962 Studebaker Gran Turismo (289ci 210HP, OD). Problems with Studebakers was rust, especially in the pillar between fron frnder and front door. I have a whole bunch of Studebaker shop manuals, as we had many in the family
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BK ·
Here are some 1:43 cars I got in. For more info email is in my profile. Bob 1950 Nash Ambassador. 1949 Dodge Coronet Woody. 1951 Studebaker Champion. 1954 Packard Pacific. 1948 Chevy Fleetline Aerosedan.
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Re: The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

colorado hirailer ·
Packard and Studebaker, in any of their forms, is an orphan. Doesn't Brooklin, not cheap but can sometimes be bought used off the net, make that Packardbaker?
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Re: The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

RoyBoy ·
Studebaker and Kaiser/Frasier introduced new car designs for the 1947 model year. "First by far with a post war car" was Studebaker's advertising motto.
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Re: The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

colorado hirailer ·
Please note: Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn, Plymouth, and Mercury are now orphan cars. I see them still on the street.
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Re: The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
Thanks for the great pics! Gorgeous cars! Do you have some vintage models on your layout? BTW, what is an "orphan car"? Sounds like something I wanted to do when my '69 Mach I was giving me trouble: Create an Orphan car...
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Re: The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

AMCDave ·
Orphan car is one manufactured by a company no longer with us!!! I have a bunch of cars ready for my cities....but they are still in planning stage....sorry for OT stuff!
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AMCDave ·
Agreed....orphan does not mean old!!!! My buddy with the world class Hudson's does not own a trailer........when they leave the house it's under their own power......so you can see orphans of any age on the street.
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AMCDave ·
Not only Hudson's I have Tuckers on the layout!!! In my world Tucker lived!!! But I have a spot for Hudson's......my best buddy and his Dad are among THE Hudson experts in the world. So if I didn't have them on the layout.....they'd let me know!!! Buddy's 49 convertible......
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The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
Hudson's Department Store, Like Macy's in New York, and Marshall Field's in Chicago were the places to go for Lionel, American Flyer, and all things model trains in the postwar era. The display layouts at Hudson's in downtown Detroit were dream factories like none other for the young baby boomers who could only pine for having such a layout of their own. I remember taking the trolley with my mother to the downtown Hudson's store at Christmas to "virtually shop" for my dream Lionel...
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AMCDave ·
Hudson cars won most of the early NASCAR races from 1952 until 1954. As stated above I have a buddy that's the Hudson expert. And some of the work have done in the plastic model industry was creating these kits from Moebius Models....
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Re: The Hudson Motor Car Company: Do You Display The Innovative 1948 Hudson On Your O Gauge Layout?

Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
Thanks for the great pix. I had no idea that the Hudsons were such track stars! I'll definitely have to find a good book about Hudson Motor Co. and its history I have a warm place in my heart for the late 40's and early 50's Packards. We had a dark blue '52 Packard since an uncle worked at Packard. It was a low end model and not my father's favorite car. I also love the 50's era Studebakers, many of which were designed by Raymond Loewy (GG-I) and his design studio. My favorite Studebaker is...
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Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
Thanks for sharing the wonderful memories about your family and the Hudson Motor Company. I suspect there will be a few Hudsons at the annual Woodward Dream Cruise next August in Michigan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodward_Dream_Cruise I've never been in a Hudson automobile, and will have to check if one is displayed at The Henry Ford in Dearborn, MI. In addition to Hudson's Department Store in downtown Detroit on Woodward Ave., I have fond memories of attending a couple of the huge,...
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handyandy ·
The minor American makes interest me more than the products of the big three US automakers. My Mom's dad had a Hudson Terraplane when she was a kid. By Dad's dad drove a Rambler when I was little. My first car was an International Scout. Something about the underdog (also one of my favorite cartoons as a kid) making good. Too bad the automotive "Davids" weren't as successful against their giants as the David in the Bible.
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Khayden93 ·
Took some photos of my collection somethings are not out since I have them put away.
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ajzend ·
Nice story, but your font and grammar makes it difficult to read. Alan
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Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
A bit pricey, but here is a link to a die cast model of a 1948 Hudson: http://www.eautomobilia.com/pr...1948-NEO-143-Diecast Here's a photo of a 1949 die cast Ford Convertible: http://passiondiecast.com/en/m...ord-convertible.html Contrast this to a 1951 Chevy with the old style design: http://www.nicecardiecast.com/...1952-convertible.cfm Here's a 1950 Cadillac Convertible: http://www.diecastmodelswholes...r-by-road-signature/ Here's a picture of a 1950 Plymouth the article that is titled:...
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Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
Thanks for posting the excellent pix, and the B&W photos. That is really a sweet collection of original materials that you have, and the display is very appealing. Interestingly, if you look at the Hudson Owner's Manual in the bottom photo, the company address is listed as "Detroit 14, Michigan". The "14" is the number of the "Postal Zone" in the city of Detroit for (apparently) the Hudson Motor Company. Many of us baby boomers will remember these two digit United States Postal Zones,...
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