Tagged With "Operating layouts"

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JTD433GYR Block signals-- anyone have them?

Gondolawillie ·
I saw these on eBay for about $16. Wondering if anyone has bought and used these. I am looking for some simple signals to dress up my layout. S pecifications : Brand:evemodel. Size: Please see the picture. Style:Green,Yellow,Red. Reference Scale: 1:43,Suitable for O scale. Operating Voltage: 12V, AC or DC Compatible. Operating Current: 20mA. Material: Plastic. Package included: 2 complete lamps.,including 2 Resistors for 9~18V operation.
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Re: Food for thought, re: operating sessions

p51 ·
I have done op sessions on several On30, HO and N scale layouts, a few of which have been in the model train mags. Generally, a privately-owned layout should treat newbies well. That's always been my experience. The owners don't want the rep of being a jerk to new people, because it scares off people to share the layout with and in the end, they wouldn't run op sessions at all if they didn't want people to come. Now, clubs ? Totally different. I've gone to a few and have had the,...
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Re: Food for thought, re: operating sessions

Greg Houser ·
I've had the good fortune of being invited to 4 HO layouts during open houses or operating sessions. Let's just say my experience was pretty much the same as yours. Nice folks but just no people skills. I would call them rude if not for the fact they were clueless. Having a son on the autistic spectrum their behavior seems to indicate they might be too and just not know (being over 50 in age it's quite possible it was never diagnosed). I had a small 5x12x9 layout and my only real visitors...
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Re: Food for thought, re: operating sessions

New Haven Joe ·
RRMan, You didn't mention whether this event was at a private layout or at a club. In my area, serious operating sessions in my area at both clubs and private homes are by invitation only. The only people present are experienced operators. Of course, this leads to the question of how do new people gain experience so that they will be invited to participate. In my area, both clubs and private layouts host training sessions for new people. New people are paired with experienced operators...
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Re: Food for thought, re: operating sessions

rrman ·
New Haven Joe, I think you nailed it. This is a private home two level around the wall layout with yards spaced approximately 10 feet apart. Apparently this an informal club that rotates among several layouts in the city area over course of year. Which explains why they know just what to do and everything was so co ordinated. That said, enlightened me as to why I was not invited to join in. Thank goodness I have my own "little" layout (which was a Reader Rails picture in run 286 page 18),...
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Re: Food for thought, re: operating sessions

necrails ·
I have to say the NJ Highrailers are the benchmark for friendly. Every visit there is a welcoming experience. My other pleasant experience was probably over 20 years ago at the open house of a trolley layout. The layout was built by the owner of Micromark, he handed everyone a DCC controller and let us have fun.
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Re: Food for thought, re: operating sessions

L.I.TRAIN ·
At the TMB Train club on Lng Island we make a point of being VERY approachable. We greet people at the street (rain or shine) welcome them at the door and when our members operating session is over they are in the aisles for both crowd control and to answer questions. We wear a very distinguishable yellow shirt. If our newer members cant answer a question they simply refer someone over to a more seasoned member. Its worked well for us in getting repeat visitors and in attracting new...
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Food for thought, re: operating sessions

rrman ·
I just returned from watching a large HO train layout complete with yards and interchanges with lots of cars and engines. Layout is card operated with operators making up/breaking down trains for dispatching to next town(s). Most of the operators I know from railfan, clubs, or train swap activities. So stood/walked around, asked some questions (what do these card markings mean? is their order important? etc (answer: I'm busy, gotta get this train put together)). After about 15 minutes left...
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Post-War vs Modern Eras Accessory Comparison.

Dan Padova ·
It is great to see all of the layouts where operating accessories rule. A reference to my other thread, Do You Have An Operating Accessory Based Layout. Now that we have stirred interest in operating accessories, once again, I'd like to get opinions on the operating accessories themselves. Lionel's post-war releases vs anything that was re-released in the modern eras. If an item was re-released and re-released again with different mechanical innards, I would like to hear the pros and cons of...
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Placing Operating Accessories

Dan Padova ·
I love operating accessories. Some of them may not be too realistic, but I don't care, they're toys to be played with. The dilemma for people like me is that there is only so much room on our layouts. So the thought occurred to me to have a shelf type layout in addition to my operating layout. Because I love to simply sit back and watch my trains run. And not just a single train. At present, I have a very small experimental layout. It's where I am testing ideas for my permanent layout yet to...
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Frank Ellison on Model Railroads

geysergazer ·
Is anyone else here an adherent of Ellison's philosophy of model railroading? Like him I view the layout as the stage and the trains as the actors. For me operation is the play which I write and rewrite to mimic prototype railroad operations of transporting goods and people. I was finally able to recently score a hardcover edition of his book on Ebay and it is fun refreshing my memory about his philosophy and methodology and how he brought it to life with his Delta Lines O scale empire. Lots...
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Re: Lionel operating hopper question

D500 ·
Well that's just a great idea. Simple. Elegant. get a big enough funnel/deep bucket so you don't spill. Better idea that Lionel's rotary coal dump; I have one, built a new section of layout around it, at which time it decided to self-destruct in multiple ways. Eye-candy only, now. Maybe one day I will replace it with your scheme; I already have a hole in the layout for the stupid rotary dump.
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Re: Lionel operating hopper question

Jon1443 ·
That's an awesome idea. I had so much hatred of the coal flying everywhere in my layout last year, I took it out of the plans for my new layout. This would probably limit the carnage
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Re: Lionel operating hopper question

Greg Houser ·
That's a great idea and should be a fan favorite on your layout! At the club we attached pvc pipe to the hole in the bottom of the layout (a barge actually) which empties into a 5 gal plastic bucket. Makes it easy to use a scoop to put the coal back in the hoppers once dumped and the pvc pipe keeps the coal from going all over the place. Of course, if you forget to put the bucket back you'll know soon enough.
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intermodalman ·
I really like the PVC idea, the plan is for a set of show modules. I could see the sound of the coal tumbling down the pipe to an awaiting bucket as a neat way to draw people in.
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Re: Frank Ellison on Model Railroads

c.sam ·
Growing up in New Orleans I wish we had known of Frank's Delta Lines as it would have been fun for my Dad and me to belong to it. I was only about 8 years old in 1954 and had never seen a layout other than the Christmas displays in downtown New Orleans. I used to use my American Flyer 'Pike Planner' to draw layouts and imagine scenery and long trains often.
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Re: Frank Ellison on Model Railroads

MELGAR ·
Looking at the pages you posted takes me back to my layout of the 1950s - although it was nothing like Ellison's. The text, diagrams and black-white photo remind me of how exciting model railroading and layout building were for me as a youngster. I also like his language and thoughtful analysis of operations. To me, so much more interesting than reading about decoders. MELGAR
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Re: Frank Ellison on Model Railroads

Dennis LaGrua ·
Frank Ellison was my inspiration for creating what I believe to be the most realistic looking model railroad of his era and perhaps of all time. As a scratch builder , over a 15 year period recreated the Delta Lines layout going by Franks articles in Model Builder Magazines. Part of his legacy was his writings and while the original layout was mostly destroyed in a truck accident while being moved from New Orleans, the layout lives on in my basement here in NJ. Note these are old photos.
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Re: Frank Ellison on Model Railroads

geysergazer ·
Thanks so much for posting this, including the pics!
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Re: Frank Ellison on Model Railroads

Big_Boy_4005 ·
Without really knowing it, I've been a longtime subscriber to Ellison's philosophy. I picked it up from the softcover Kalmbach book, "Track Planning for Realistic Operation", back in the 80's. That book may have actually credited him for the concept. I designed my layout as a loop to loop operation, with staging yard built on a reverse loop. The "on stage" part of the layout forms the other loop, but it's very difficult to see that it's a loop, because the tracks come back together off...
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Re: MTH Operating Reefer

Fredstrains ·
Now I have TWO Questions: What is the MTH Product # on these CARS? GUNRUNNER: Can these CARs be Modified w/ an ERR Circuit so it can be operated anywhere on your Layout? Fred
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Re: MTH Operating Reefer

stan2004 ·
Or, if you don't have Lionel command-control you can make a DIY modification to operate these remotely. It requires assembling and working with small electronic components and modules so not suitable for most guys. But can be done for about $5-10 per car. Retro-fitting a UCS or 5-rail activation track into an existing layout could be a hassle. Also, my understanding is some track systems don't like the 4th/5th rail power pickup slider shoes which could be removed if using a remote-control...
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Re: My First Scratch Operating Accessory

mike g. ·
Great job, I bet its going to be one of the highs of your layout when everyone sees it!
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Re: Post-War vs Modern Eras Accessory Comparison.

raising4daughters ·
Dan, good topic. I think this one could go many pages. In my layout rebuild 80% done, I have set up the PW merchandise car, milk car, generator car, cattle car, and coaling station. Just found out my crane cannot be completely repaired without getting parts that are no longer available from Lionel, so I've got to scrounge. The crane and coaling stations were my favorite of my grandfather's when I was a kid, so I bought a TMCC 1.0 gantry crane from the LHS that gave me the bad news on my PW...
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Re: Post-War vs Modern Eras Accessory Comparison.

Dan Padova ·
Done. Good advise, Dave. I'm going to remove the culvert pair, from the layout and tweak them, Again ! Way back in 1999, when I made a failed attempt to return to "O" gauge, I purchased the modern versions of the culvert loader and unloader. No matter what I did, I could not get them to work properly. Most of the issues had to do with the culvert pipes not releasing from the magnet in the correct position when they passed through the swinging doors. Speaking of which, why did Lionel decide...
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Re: Post-War vs Modern Eras Accessory Comparison.

Dan Padova ·
I have a 282 post-war Gantry Crane that someone reworked the controller on. While the reworked controller is easy to work, the crane is one noisy sob. On the subject of the Gateman, I was lucky enough to find the K-Line version. It's to scale and operates great.
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D&H 65 ·
My present layout is mostly "hi-rail" so I don't have traditional operating accessories anymore. When I did have them, the re-released American Flyer oil drum loader was my quietest and most reliable accessory. The one development that was really worrisome to me was the omni-present usage of engineering plastic gears that invariably crack over time and render the accessory unusable unless you can find a suitable replacement gear from Northwest Shortline or equivalent supplier. Lionel needs...
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Re: Post-War vs Modern Eras Accessory Comparison.

Dan Padova ·
Speaking of tuning post-war accessories. Most of the time, it is difficult to tune them while they are on the layout. To really do the job comfortably, I remove them to my workbench. However, I have noticed that while they may work perfectly on the bench, once they are back on the layout operation is less than perfect. Case in point. I just removed my 345 Culvert Unloader and placed it on the bench. After removing the superstructure I moved the gear by hand. On the layout under power, the...
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Re: Post-War vs Modern Eras Accessory Comparison.

Mikado 4501 ·
I noticed this not all that long ago when I bought the LTI reissue version of the 410 that advertised the Lionel Visitors Center. Most of my accessories I have are LTI reissues, so I do have some experience in them as well as some postwar originals. I have operated an original 282 gantry crane (on a friend's layout) and the first modern era reissue by LTI (the 12700 Erie Lackawanna painted version, which I own). The DC motors that replaced the AC one in the original work far more reliably...
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GregR ·
See that notch carved out on the edge of the platform...
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Dan Padova ·
I was thinking of doing that as a last resort. So after I tweaked the unloader on the work bench, I placed it back on the layout and put a torpedo level on the top beam, that the carriage runs on. I noticed that the unloader was not level. My layout has a slight slope in that area. So I shimmed the front up and now it works perfectly again. Same goes for the loader.
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johnstrains ·
Dan, Here's a suggestion or two on on the 362 loader. These will drive you nuts but I have mine working perfectly without any tinkering with that pesky air gap. 1) All about the voltage. This is probably obvious but best to have this on a variable output where you can fine tune. The line between good operation and flinging barrels around isn't much. 2) This is the main thing I did that really helps. I took 4 screws and put them in the holes in the base. Screw them into your layout surface...
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Re: Post-War vs Modern Eras Accessory Comparison.

Mike H Mottler ·
My L-shaped home layout is filled with Lionel, MTH, and K-line operating accessories. Since my track plan is rather simple, the action accessories - not the trains - become "the stars of the show" to visitors, especially to youngsters who are eager to press every control button and watch what happens. After twice replacing the PCB inside a used, modern Lionel Culvert Unloader (the conventional one with the sensor beam), I still couldn't get it to work. Perhaps that was why its former owner...
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Dan Padova ·
Mike, I believe someone on these forums had some suggestions for the Oil Drum Loader. If I recall, bending the two outstrectched arms on the forklift was part of the solution. Then he talked about removing the foam pad on the forklift cradle. Also, the cradle itself needed some bending to keep the drums from falling forward as the forklift picked them up. My Oil Drum Loader has been giving me a bit of trouble also. In the early '80s, I had a re-release of the original AF accessory and it...
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Re: Placing Operating Accessories

Michael Pags ·
Dan, Sorry for the late post to this thread, but I just went through old emails, and saw a forum digest dated from Feb 13 that I never read. I have followed your other posts regarding vintage Lionel accessories, and we seem to have similar interests. Thought you might be interested in my "dream layout" still under construction that is designed to have grandkids operate as many accessories and motorized units (slowly adding LC+ units) as possible. Here are descriptions of the numbered photos...
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Re: Placing Operating Accessories

johnf ·
I'm also a fan of operating accessories, so I decided to build an extension on the front of my layout to house them. That way they are easy to reach and see. My layout isn't finished, but here are a couple of pictures of the operating accessories.
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Re: Placing Operating Accessories

winrose46 ·
I too have had to be a little creative. I went even further that some of the sidings (for the dump car, unloading milk car and horse corral) have no connections to the running portion of the layout. I have the TMCC crane and sound car on an inside siding with the culvert loader/unloader that I may place on a special track not connected to have a small area where the grandchildren can put it through its paces.
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Doug Kinsman ·
I also use some unconnected sidings for some accessories like my crane car. Not to derail the thread but John how did you make those rock faces? Look great.
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Re: Placing Operating Accessories

BobbyD ·
While they may not be realistic or prototypical, kids of all ages love to see them operate. Glad to hear about your endeavors to get them out for visitors to see and use!
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Re: Placing Operating Accessories

Joe Hohmann ·
My layout is only 5x8, so I have some of my operating accessories along a "siding to/from nowhere" (meaning not attached to any "running track") along the front edge of the layout. So a gondola sits on this track while the oil drum loader guy does his loading. The next car might be a milk car, etc. They don't move...just operate. Not ideal maybe, but it works for me.
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johnstrains ·
On my 5x9 Dealer Display Layout I’ve packed a lot of accessories into the 5x9 space. Of course that was the whole purpose of these Lionel-designed layouts. I also have a ‘siding to nowhere’ where the cattle and milk cars operate.
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Re: Food for thought, re: operating sessions

Dan Padova ·
I've had a similar experience with a garden railway club in my area. Very cliquish. I had alot to offer but would have had to jump through hoops to get recognized. So like Lee, I operate my railway and if someone visits, I take the time to show them how everything works.
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Re: Food for thought, re: operating sessions

rrman ·
Paraphrasing a Groucho Marx quip: I won't belong to any club that would have me as a member.
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Re: Food for thought, re: operating sessions

Big_Boy_4005 ·
I can see how you would come away with that impression under the circumstances. I've been in that situation a few times myself over the years. If you walk in cold off the street to an established group session, don't expect too much, that's their "play time" and they take it seriously. My best advice in that situation is three things: show interest in what they are doing, be patient, and be persistent. When you think you are ready to try and break the ice, stay away from the yard operators...
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Re: Food for thought, re: operating sessions

rrman ·
Elliot, yep wife and I were invited by the owner to come see, which was a short walk down the street. People said hello how are you but then went right back to their "job", but no one said heres how the controller works, have fun running a train back and forth in a yard (and there were several sitting dead that weren't scheduled for activity,) and that was OK with us. Really there were no hurt feelings here, but throwing this out in case you are part of a private/club group and an invited...
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MTH Operating Platform

dobermann ·
I've been looking at MTH passenger or freight operating platforms. Can someone tell me some details on setup. Does it set flat on the bench work and line up with the rolling stock or would I need to cut a hole for it. I would probably want to go with the ITAD so it's automated. Thanks joe
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My First Scratch Operating Accessory

jrmertz ·
Although not complete I wanted to share the progress of my first operating accessory. It is TMCC Command Controlled So far, I have: 1. Made the base and brought it level with the roadbed of the fasttrack for later placement in my yard. 2. Made the water column taller, by cutting and putting a brass pipe in place to raise it about 3/4 and inch (this was extremely tricky for me and doesn't look perfect, but good enough, water column is Selley brand I think). 3. Created the cement platform and...
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Fastrack Operating track and legacy engine anomaly

ToledoEd ·
When I run a legacy engine AC6000 B&O (6-38404) across a Fastrack operating track the engine loses sound. I installed a battery thinking it lost signal but that didn't fix the issue. This engine responds to my sensor track correctly. It is the only engine that responds this way. I've run 2 vision line diesels over the same track, no problem. Actually, this is the only engine that responds like this. It's as if it receives some signal from that track but that can't be, can it? Any...
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Lionel operating hopper question

intermodalman ·
Hi guys, quick question for ya. Can a lionel operating hopper be unloaded by a standard uncoupling track or do I NEED the coal ramp to make it function? Also generally speaking how reliable is the operation of these cars? Any issues with coal getting stuck or jammed? Thanks, -Adam
 
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