I thought I'd get an estimate for a restoration job (in case I'm too afraid to do it myself) and I was BLOWN AWAY by the cost! (I'm not even sure of this train is worth that price "new"!) For 6-8hrs work... this engine and sections of the passenger cars would cost about USD$680-700 (essentially, a day's work) Do you agree?!! If you agree it's too much, would you recommend someone? Thanks everyone! El Gaucho (Argentine Cowboy).. but you can call me Ariel
Too many variables to answer your question. First off it may be 8 hours of work, but it will be many days, because there needs to be time between the restoration steps. The next thing I would need to know is what will be the finished product? Is he just cleaning and removing the rust? Or is he repainting everything to make it look brand new? I would imagine the gold trimmed boxed on the passenger cars them selves would take a long time by itself. Any finally, I'd need to know who is doing...
Thanks for the reply Bossman. It's a removing rust-job. No repaint. I'd assume he's a seasoned artist, has his own restoration shop and he sells some of his restorations. To me.. it's not worth USD$1,000 (if you count the purchase of the original.. for parts) BTW... who's this infamous "Earl Shrive"?!! Ha! Ariel
If its just rust removal than I would say yest it seems to by high. "Earl Shrive" was a guy out here on the east coast that used to have auto body shops and and would paint your entire care for $99.00 It was the true epitome of "you get what you pay for" Good like with your project
The missing shaved paper filling would explain the extra space in the squares. You're right. Does your box contain the exact same train? Is the space for the tracks meant for an 6-8 curved pieces track?
No, mine is a basic 0-4-0 with a tender, baggage and two passenger cars. The train is smaller than yours appears to be, however, the box innards, other than having a few more compartments for the train components, is divided in the same way with the track filling the larger space. My track forms an oval - 8 curved and two straight. One of the straight pieces has a hand thrown reversing switch. Speaking of track, based on your picture, it looks like you have a dead end bumper. Does your set...
There are several engines in the 1906 Bing catalog that are a close match for your engine (the litho treatment of the tender and the engine cab is slightly different). In addition, illustrations from the same catalog match the shape of your tender and passenger car . The box cover art matches the box cover art of my 1904 set so I would estimate you are looking at a set from the 04-06 time period. 1904 Bing Set Box Cover
Thank you Robert! So you're saying the engine/tender/coach are original to the box? Good to know! I'm also noticing the "floral" boarder design of your box's label to mine. I'm assuming mine, because it looks like a smaller set, didnt have room for that level of detail. Maybe it assumes a different manufacture date?
Hello. Take a shot here with anyone who would like to sell (OR have leads to) any simple, toy-like Bing wind ups from these eras. In particular, I'm looking for the short/stubby, big wheeled locos with matching stubby tenders (pictures attached) Any information would be greatly appreciate!
Hello. Was wondering if anyone would be able to help me identify the "age" of this box? And also if the pictured train is original to the box? (I'm trying to determine by the shape/size of the squares.. and they dont seem to match) Nonetheless, it'd be nice to know "what" train DID go with this box (given that catalogs rarely showed boxes and labels) Thanks so much! Ariel
The box cover art on my box looks to be about the same size as yours (I cropped the picture to give a better view of the label). I suppose one could assume the floral border implies an earlier manufacturing date but it would only be an assumption. The book "Bing" by Claude Jeanmarie has excerpts from Bing catalogs which span 1886-1930. My reason for estimating an upper range of 1906 is because his sections from the 1908 catalog show engines with the same wheel arrangement on the locomotive...
I purchased the set about 15 years ago so I really don't have any idea of what it might cost today. The box size is 15" x 14" x 3". As for selling, I'm still in the trying-to-find phase of the collection cycle so nothing for sale.
Wonderful set!! Your box does look much bigger (probably to fit that many cars) May I ask what you think a set like this is worth? Do you have any Bing engines yourself that you're in the market to sell?
Hi Robert. Just curious, but would the inside of your box (and the separation panels) look something like this? (First image below) If not, would you know what pieces would actually go where in this box? Thank you! **This is another inside Bing Box image (not mine) but with different panel configuration:
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