Tagged With "J3a Hudson"

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Lionel NYTC 6-28072 Hudson J3a

T Lo ·
I'm looking to buy a Lionel NYTC 6-28072 Hudson J3a with the BOXPOK DRIVER SET....Please contact me.....Thank you... Tony DiVecchio divecchio@mindspring.com
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WTB: Sunset 3rd Rail NYC J3a Unstreamlined 4-6-4

VintageClassics ·
Looking for a used or mostly new Sunset 3rd Rail NYC Super Hudson. Thanks!
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MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

MrMuffin'sTrains ·
Yes, there have been several versions of the new Lionel NYC J3a Hudson announced in the 2019V1 Catalog and through other dealers' special runs. However, for some of you, this is the one that you asked to have made, and it's being made as an exclusive for MrMuffin'sTrains by Lionel. It's features include: All black; no white walls or white stripes No class lights All boxpok wheels Dark grey boiler – no silver Darkened siderods Darkened cylinder caps PT Tender, with water scoop steam effect...
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

superwarp1 ·
I’m pretty sure Steve will order as many as he has orders for, weather that’s 25 or 50. With Lionel more than happy to produce but with a deadline of 3/8/19 to get orders in. I’m guessing by Christmas?
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

John Rowlen ·
I ordered my 5415 earlier today, February 8, 2019. The email from Mr. Muffins said they had 22 pre-orders. Mine would make another at 23 or more. It should be a beautiful engine. For all the trains in my collection, the only Hudsons are the Empire State Express #5426 and #5429 with plated tenders that pull my two sets of 21" NYC ESE passenger cars. It will be good to have steam engines for pulling freight; this #5415 and the #5416 Hudson are pre-ordered. It will be a busy Christmas season...
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

harmonyards ·
I’m not 100% sure where you were going with this, and I can’t speak for Steve’s business model, but I also can’t see where offering a second boiler front in the regular cataloged line would hurt anything or anyone. Infact, it would help the other locomotives move.The folks that ordered the special Hudson from Steve, I would think ordered for more reasons than just the boiler front....those orders are comitted by the customer who placed the BTO special custom run. Steve has added another SKU...
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

Super O Bob ·
What is cool about second cab number is that you can cut sales off at 25 on each one. It maintains the exclusivity and collectability. Plus no doubt you might get guys who want to doublehead them and order more than one. I would rather have 1 of 25 of a great hudson, than one of 48! And i personally know several guys who would buy more than one cab number... lots of us want hudson to come out of the box with NO class lights... The demand is there, lionel minimum of 25 only helps you...
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 ·
I myself would like to see some B&A as well, but I don't think this tooling would do for it. Perhaps Steve can influence Lionel to offer them in the future as well as our voices. It would be great if they would make what is right and what we all want, but those are hard to come by. I am pretty certain that if these Hudson sales(their cataloged ones) do very well, this will open the door to try and pursue making others.
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

harmonyards ·
Yes, I see that point....and I see the possible pitfall for Steve,....I’d like to hope the folks that ordered the custom run would not back out if they did, they’d certainly deserve to be tarred and feathered....you are quite correct, Steve is out on a limb, and certainly deserves high praises for his efforts, so I tip my hat to him......perhaps if Steve holds some sort of exclusive or comes up with a plan to offer these other key components folks are looking for (myself included) it’ll just...
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

harmonyards ·
Paul, I hear ya, and on another thread they’ve been discussing the B&A J2s......I think the three major drawbacks to using the current tooling for B&A’s are the driver diameter, the unique sand box, and the 4 axle tender that the B&A had coupled to their Hudsons.....Pete (Norton) and I were just talking the other day how a Premeir Blue Comet tender would almost be a dead ringer for a B&A J2 ....interesting promise for some future kitbashing.....Pat
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

harmonyards ·
Read the initial post, Steve listed the specs clearly line item by line item.....it’s all right there........Pat
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

Paul Kallus ·
Without reference to catalog pictures this is confusing. I am trying to figure out, will Mr. Muffin's Hudson look like catalog pictured Hudson No. 5452 (with disc wheels), PT tender, and the primary difference being new cab # and no classification lights? Anything else different?
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

Rider Sandman ·
Hey Pat, also definitely not picking a spat - this is all fun stuff! My only concern - and I think Pete hit on it in his response - is that Steve committed to something unique that if it becomes “ununique” might cause folks to back out and leave him stuck with some of these engines. Remember, he is one of the guys who never requires a deposit. So, my point was intended to be that it may not be in his best interest to lobby for all SKUs (available from everyone) to have the same unique...
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

Paul Kallus ·
I read the description again...I was trying to extrapolate what'd it look like from one of the catalog pictures, but it'll be quite unique if I understand the description correctly. I have been waiting for a Lionel scale Hudson for a few years now, but in B&A roadname.
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

Paul Kallus ·
I think I am finally figuring how all the Lionel and custom run Hudsons will look: Mr. Muffin's Hudson will look like No. 5413 except all boxpok wheels and no classification lights.
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Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

J Class Hudson Fan ·
Hello everyone! Fairly new o gauge model railroader here. I recently picked up a Lionel 2002 50th anniversary 6-31705 set consisting of J3a Hudson #5433 and five passenger cars NEW IN BOXES. The Hudson, however, is having some issues. When running it with the Legacy v1.6 remote, as soon as I turn the throttle wheel, it takes off at full speed. It gave me quite a fright the first time. I have tried reseting the factory ID# to 74, but nothing changes. Also, when I run It conventionally, I...
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

harmonyards ·
Keep in mind, 5429 will appear on the rear of the PT tender too....along with the tiny inscription “cenruty club II” .........Pat
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

J Class Hudson Fan ·
Thank you all very much for your ideas and help. I ended up taking the train to a person nearby who did repairs on Lionel trains. He found that some insulating screws weren't long enough causing the engine to go at full speed. I would have never found this myself, so props to him. Now I can control the engine's speed! The only thing that I am dissatisfied at the moment about is the Rail Sounds 4. So I did some research on upgraded Lionel Rail Sounds boards for NYC Hudsons and I came across 2...
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

RickO ·
Why not just buy the pt tender and renumber the loco? No need to swap sound boards or anything. Just hook the pt tender drawbar to the loco and away you go. I believe all of the prototype ese hudsons were originally "unstreamlined". Streamlining was added , then removed again later in their operating carreer for ease of maintenance . Hudson experts please advise.
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

J Class Hudson Fan ·
RickO posted: RICKO, That would work, (just putting the pt tender behind 5433 and renumbering it 5429), but 5429 was never de-streamlined with a PT tender and is therefor un-prototypical. I know that seems a little crazy but I want to be as prototypical as possible. I am way too crazy for my own good about the NYC Hudson. -Cole
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

PaperTRW ·
What don't you like about the RS4? Upgrading to a RS4e board doesn't change the functionality at all. The main purpose for the "e" -- enhanced -- was to eliminate some of the background hissing that was an artifact of the sound compression. This is mostly visible at rest, and once a locomotive is in motion, you can't really hear any difference over the usual layout sounds. If you can find a RS5 board and chipset (but not Legacy 5.5 or 6) that you like, this could be added to your RS4 loco.
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

Norton ·
AFAIK only the only J1 to get a PT tender was 5221 which Pat has duplicated. If you want a Hudson with a PT tender you pretty much have to stick to J3s which Lionel, 3rd Rail and Williams have done. All of the MTH unstreamlined Hudsons are J1s. Pete
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

J Class Hudson Fan ·
Pat, After thinking it over, I guess I will renumber the locomotive 5429. The RS4 on 5433 just doesn't satisfy me and I really like this Hudson being it is one of the 3 out of 9 J3a Hudsons that Lionel has and will produce without marker lights, the other two being custom runs by pat's trains and mr. muffin which I sadly missed out on. Here is a photo of 5429 after its streamlining was removed. No PT tender, but as I know there will never be perfection. Pat, is 5221 an MTH Hudson, or a...
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

harmonyards ·
Cole, let me see here if I can answer some of your questions....John already answered one of them, so let’s recap his correct answer. The older Lionel Hudsons up to 5344 with the Vandy tender are all pullmor power....to make them any kind of performer, a good sized can motor swap is a must. All the CV Hudsons as well are Pullmor powered. Pete (Norton) has a great thread on his CV Pittman swap. The Hudson pictured above is a MTH piece. A J1E model that actually came to me as a 2 rail spoked...
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

harmonyards ·
Cole, good catch on my 5221....but heck, I’m not worried at all about it. The central did some crazy things to get these appliances out on the road where they belonged. Not everything that was retrofitted, redone, repaired or swapped over made it into the history books...especially when it came to drivers, the guys in the shops would use up whatever was handy to get a certain machine back on the road again. My grandad was a mechanic on the central right in the Hudson’s heydays, although...
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

J Class Hudson Fan ·
Pete, If you go to the site, https://nycshs.files.wordpress...4/07/pt-tenders.pdf, it shows you nearly every Hudson and niagara to have gained a PT tender. J1b #5203, #5204, #5211, #5214, #5415, #5222, and #5236. J1c #5257, #5263, #5264, #5266, #5267, #5268, #5269, #5270, #5271, #5272, #5273, and #5274. J1d #5291 and #5391. J1e #5333, #5344, and #5401. All of the J1 Hudsons above gained pt tenders. No J2 Hudsons had Pt tenders and at one point every J3a had a PT tender. I am sorry to say...
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

J Class Hudson Fan ·
Sorry, the PT Tender link isn't working. Just google PT Tender and it will be one of the first links. It's also a pdf. -Cole
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

J Class Hudson Fan ·
Pat, Thank you very muck for the help. Before I make the conversion I would like to get a second boiler shell for 5433 and a boiler front for 5444. That way I can renumber the 5444 headlight to 5429 and place it on the 5433 boiler front without marker lights. I want to do this because if I want to I can change the loco back to 5433 and it would look just like how it came out of the box. North Lima Works sells the 5433 shell and Lionel support sells the 5444 boiler front. I also still need to...
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

harmonyards ·
Easiest thing to do on this instance would be a chassis swap. But one begs the question why? .....however, if you have a CC 773, you could probably find a 785 chassis on the bay and do the swap. I’d check to see if the rods and valve gear are interchangeable by part number, otherwise, you’ll have to source all of that for such a swap....also, keep in mind both of those engines have a derivative of the postwar 2426 tender, which is far from scale. I have a 785 I’m planning on doing a Pittman...
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

Norton ·
Rather than messing around with a '90s Pullmor hudson why not just get an MTH J1. They all have big Pittmans, spoke drivers, and some even had PT tenders. Then if you want TMCC just gut the electronics and put in ERR. Keep an eye on ebay for wrecked Hudsons or the PS1 20-3020-1 which show up all the time for small money. From around 2005. Pete
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

J Class Hudson Fan ·
Pete, I looked at the MTH Hudsons and I have to say, I'm impressed. They have a high level of detailing only the k-line Hudson could top. It appears that they have made three models with the PT tender; the very common PS2 #5274 (as shown above), the rare PS2 5344 with scullin disk drivers, and the new PS3 #5334. How hard would it be to convert one to ERR TMCC? I have never done this swap of command systems before. -Cole
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Re: Help! My Lionel J3a 5433 is having speed and direction issues.

PaperTRW ·
You can't put the 785 drivers onto a Century Club 773. Besides the different wheel attachment method, the axles are a different diameter, which means the frame is also different between the two locomotives. What I think you COULD do is use the drivers from the gold-plated 6-28062 700E on the CC773, but they're tough to find. TRW
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Front Stub for a TMCC DREYFUS

gibson man ·
Anybody got one of these they want to sell? It bolts on to the front of the chassis on a TMCC DREYFUS and acts as an extension allowing the same frame used on the TMCC J3a to be used on the DREYFUS...bolts in to the same location as the cow catcher...Lionel is sold out...
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Re: Front Stub for a TMCC DREYFUS

gunrunnerjohn ·
Looks like something you could fabricate from Styrene or Fiberglass sheet.
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Lionel 6-38097 NYC PT Tender - Free Shipping

sud148 ·
All features have been tested and verified to function correctly. It is an impressive sight of a Hudson paired with the PT tender. I am asking $250 shipped.
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Re: Lionel 6-38097 NYC PT Tender - Free Shipping

sud148 ·
Will Separate: PT Tender $250 shipped J3A Hudson -SOLD-
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J3a Hudson Tender Wiring for Railsounds

Ed ·
I have a Lionel 6-27082 J3a Hudson that has all burnt wires in the tender. I cannot find a wiring diagram either on the Lionel web site or in the supplements. Does anyone have a diagram for the tender? I have to make all new harnesses and the wires are so burnt I can't make out what wire goes where. Thanks, Ed
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Re: J3a Hudson Tender Wiring for Railsounds

cjack ·
When I had burnt wiring in the Genset, I saw that no harnesses were listed in the parts fiche for that model. I then found harnesses that I could make up what I needed (number of wires and appropriate connectors) by searching thru hundreds of harnesses I found with the search term "Harness" in the search for Replacement Part Number or Name. There were two different connector sizes (in addition to number of wires). They were listed in Digikey as 2mm JST PH series and 2.5mm JST EH series. And...
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Re: WTB: Sunset 3rd Rail NYC J3a Unstreamlined 4-6-4

Allegheny48 ·
I have one, cab #5453 which I've owned since new and it has less than 1 hour run time. PM me for more details if interested.
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Re: WTB: Sunset 3rd Rail NYC J3a Unstreamlined 4-6-4

VintageClassics ·
Pm sent. Thanks!
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

RickO ·
Is there a limited number of these being produced Steve?
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

jeremy ferrell ·
I got my order in last night. I think I can speak for many of us when I say Thank you!!!!! for getting this done for us!!!! Maybe when they arrive I can bring a few friends out and to see your place and pick it up. Thanks again Sir!
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

superwarp1 ·
I had that engine from 2001, the traction tires were on the center driver and the engine bobbed up and down, rocked back and forth. Order the kit and the traction tire was one the rear driver. The mod was more than changing out the wrong drivers than what was cataloged.
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

Norton ·
First you have assume Lionel will sell you drivers without the frame. Currently you have to buy the complete frame for the earlier J3s to get the drivers. Then assume they haven't used loctite on the screws. They did use Loctite on the TMCC drivers so you will want to buy new screws in case you have to drill some out. BTDT. I would be surprised if Lionel omitted the Class LEDs even on the fronts without markers. It should be just a matter of swapping fronts and inserting the LEDs in the...
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

MrMuffin'sTrains ·
Our pleasure - happy to help..... I hope you do visit.....
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

harmonyards ·
Right here, I’ll trade ya out!....lol........Pat
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

MrMuffin'sTrains ·
The minimum number that we need to order is 25 with Lionel.... I am under the understanding that I can bump that number up some as long as I do it before the catalog order date which is 3/08... So, we will make at least 25 of these.... I don't want anyone to miss out, however, I will not be ordering extras.....
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 ·
My order is in. Thank you Mr. Muffin's Trains for getting what we all wanted.
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

superwarp1 ·
Free Shipping? You guys are really making it hard to stay on the sidelines with all these Hudsons.
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Re: MrMuffin'sTrains announces a Custom Run Lionel Legacy NYC J3a Hudson

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 ·
My attention is firmly grabbed. I will have to get in on this for sure because it is just one of those grand things to be in on. P.S., where's the thumbs up on my phone????
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