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Deaths, injuries reported after Amtrak, CSX trains collide in South Carolina

trainroomgary ·
Deaths, injuries reported after Amtrak, CSX trains collide in South Carolina Lexington County emergency officials responding to the scene where an Amtrak train collided with a CSX freight train in Cayce, South Carolina early Sunday morning. (Lexington Sheriff) At least two people were killed early Sunday when an Amtrak passenger train collided with a CSX freight train in South Carolina. About 50 people were transported from the scene with injuries, according to the Lexington County Sheriff's...
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Boston: Gondolas from South Station to the Seaport?

TomlinsonRunRR ·
Not sure where best to post this oddity. While catching up on news about our Noreaster (last night and today), I stumbled on this proposal: https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2018/03/07/boston-seaport-gondola They aren't even trams like a couple of other cities have, but honest to goodness, swinging in the wind over your head gondolas. What possibly could go wrong? Tomlinson Run Railroad
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JD2035RR ·
Sad news, thoughts and prayers for those affected.
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trainroomgary ·
PHOTO UPDATE: 7:15 AM Feb., 4, 2018 Gary
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trainroomgary ·
Photo Update: Feb., 4. 2018 8:00 AM ET Gary
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Number 90 ·
It looks bad, especially the cab of the Amtrak engine. Causes me to wonder if the two dead were the engine crew? We will find out later today, surely. It's Sunday morning and the politicians have not yet found their way to news cameras. Don't worry, they will, soon.
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GenesisFan99 ·
Oh boy, not another wreck. Hopefully this problem gets fixed and people stop dying. My prayers go out to the victims and politicians making the decisions for Amtrak.
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rtraincollector ·
Both cabs look bad like this was a head on,
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trainroomgary ·
Photo Update: TSB on the way. Feb., 4, 2018 / 8:39 AM Gary
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Steims ·
Not trying to jump to any conclusions but seeking to understand how this happened. A study of Google maps at the crash site looks like Amtrak may have been switched over to the siding where the CSX was sitting. The main tracks look like they are the rails to the left (south) of the CSX freight. Map of Crash Site
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trainroomgary ·
Good Morning: Fellow Member Steims Can you please supply the Google Maps Link or a Screenshot of this area of the tracks? So we can have a better understanding. Just saw your link: Sorry Map of Crash Site Thanks: Gary
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mark s ·
Quite discouraging. Amtrak has been starved for capital and CSX has had immense mangement upheaval. Guess these sorts of things happen under those conditions.
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Dan Padova ·
What a shame. For the two dead and for Amtrak's reputation. Things come in three's, or so the superstition goes. The Washington crash, the GOP crash and now this one. I wonder if we will learn of human error ?
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Namvet4 ·
Condolences and prayers to the families of those who were killed and injured. Amtrak has a major issue to deal with right now! " It was the second major crash for Amtrak in less than a week." - And the other serious crash in late 2017 requires a complete investigation.
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trainroomgary ·
Some more Cable TV news photos. Gary
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trainroomgary ·
Raw: Wreckage of Amtrak Train Collision Play time: 21 seconds Source: AP Gaey
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trainroomgary ·
Two Google Earth Maps of the area. These maps should give up a perspective of what the track location looks like. Amtrak train heading south. CSX train on north siding. Reports say at this time. This is subject to change. Gary
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lehighline ·
Sorry to see this! My condolences to the families of the dead, and my prayers to the injured. Chris LVHR
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Gregg ·
Would this subdivision have Positive Train Control??
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Hot Water ·
It might but then, Amtrak probably does not. Same situation out in Washington State, i.e. ALL the BNSF and UP freight trains between Seattle and Portland, have, and use, PTC, but Amtrak does not, yet.
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JVM-51 ·
Here is a video that shows the Amtrak train on the same track as the freight. Looks like the Amtrak train was switched to the freight siding a 1/4 mile earlier. The video moves to the other side of the overpass 25 seconds in. https://twitter.com/thestate/s...s/960138064281722881
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Laidoffsick ·
What PROBLEM would you be taking about???? If you can figure out how to stop human factor related ACCIDENTS, you'll will be a very rich man!
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JVM-51 ·
How could a switching mistake like that happen?
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Hot Water ·
When it is all done and said, I'm sure the NTSB will explain everything to us.
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Drummer3 ·
Sounds like a "central control room" human error, kind of like the Hawaiian missile alert fiasco.
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M J Breen ·
Some additional information - it appears CSX crews had been working on the switch and signal system prior to the incident. Source: https://www.bizjournals.com/ja...king-at-site-of.html
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TM Terry ·
Which begs the question: What is the typical cycle time from rail incident to NTSB published report?
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Farmer_Bill ·
A long time. https://www.ntsb.gov/investiga.../Pages/railroad.aspx
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Pine Creek Railroad ·
Gentlemen, It will be very interesting to know how both these trains got routed on to the same tracks, knowing the security system and computer alert criteria now being used by the RR this had to be a human over ride of the system. Somebody had to over ride the system to allow these trains on the same tracks at the same time. PCRR/Dave
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EscapeRocks ·
From the article linked to above, it may be an issue of the system being disconnected, so the AMTRAK never got the signal. Again, just from the new article.. " The CSX train was sitting on a side line known as the industry line, according to a source familiar with the matter. A switch that was supposed to send the Amtrak train down the cleared main line was not in the proper position and sent it down the industry line instead, the source said. Typically, an automatic signal would have warned...
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TM Terry ·
Don’t railroads use some form of “Lock Out-Tag Out” when any work is done in rail yards?
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Hot Water ·
For what it's worth, it has apparently been confirmed that there was a "Signal Suspension" in affect in that area of the CSX line.
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Steims ·
Transportation disasters typically are never caused by a single event. The systems we have tend to involve an element of human error and mechanical/electrical failures. This event sure sounds like a dispatcher threw the switch not knowing the Amtrak was southbound and then the (known) signal failures failed to warn the Amtrak what was ahead. I suspect the Amtrak engineer started braking as soon as he saw the switch thrown but there was not enough distance to stop. Thoughts and prayers go out.
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Hot Water ·
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Laidoffsick ·
about a year or so we will see that report
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Farmer_Bill ·
" Authorities said the two people killed in an early-morning train collision in South Carolina were Amtrak employees. " https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...outh-carolina-crash/
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New Haven Joe ·
Amtrak is have a terrible run of bad luck. The Washington State accident may or not be Amtrak's fault. The West Virginia charter train hitting a garbage truck and this appears to be just awful timing and luck. My heartfelt condolences go to the families of all those that were killed and injured. These things shouldn't happen in the 21st century. NH Joe
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RaritanRiverRailroadFan4 ·
What a shame. NTSB report should be interesting. The one thing I'm wondering is if the Amtrak engineer applied the brakes when he realized the train was sent into the industrial siding. I'm sure at the speed they were going it didn't take long to see the CSX train in their path but by then it must've been too late. Did CSX confirm that signal maintenance was going on in that stretch of track?
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Steims ·
The siding is very long which looks like a passing siding to me. Zooming in on Google at each switch I see a metal enclosure/controls equipment. This "signal failure" was based on what was already reported. Maybe signal outage would have been a better choice of words. "Typically, an automatic signal would have warned that the switch was in the wrong position, instructing the engineer to slow down. However, a crew had recently been working on the system in that area, and it may have been shut...
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Hot Water ·
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Drummer3 ·
Latest is that the freight train was parked on the correct track, and that the Amtrak was on the wrong track.
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DG ·
The stored freight train was a northbound train that would have entered the south end switch into the passing side. The freight train apparently stopped approximately a 1/4 of a mile SOUTH of the north end switch into the siding. Thus when the freight crew indicated they were "clear", they would have been talking about the south end switch into the siding. The passenger train was going south and entered the passing siding thru the NORTH end switch and hit the freight train. I don't think the...
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Gregg ·
It's not that unusual for a train to get stopped at a red signal in CTC territory and the Rail traffic controller can not clear the signal for unknown reasons so written permission is given to pass the signal. It could happen on single track , 2 or more tracks... The RTC will indicate the signal number, route Train designation , A crew member is required to take the switch off power , mesh the points and line the switch for the route given, could be one switch or maybe 4 or 5, The switch is...
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Hot Water ·
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trainroomgary ·
NTSB • Press Conference with Illustrations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix7_bafC1oM Play time: about two minutes Source: AP Gary
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hibar ·
Based on the press conference in the previous post the switch into the siding was padlocked in place for the siding not the mainline, they also stated that the freight worked the car carrier yard on the other side of the mainline then pulled north onto the mainline and backed down into the siding at that point the freight crew left the train, obviously someone had the responsability for resetting the switch to the mainline alignment, unless there was a signal further north on the line...
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Dominic Mazoch ·
I do have some questions. But I will wait on info from the NSTB before asking here.
 
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