Hello Fellow Model Train Lovers, After attending various shows over the years and not finding what I wanted I've decided to put out my whole laundry list of items wanted to our O Gauge RR Community. If you have any (or all) of the items listed below,...
Ertl 2511 1:43 scale diecast model of the Massey Harris Challenger tractor This is a nicely detailed model of a 1937 Massey Harris tractor. It could be used in an O scale farm diorama. Photos of a typical prototype tractor are also shown.
It is probably better to figure out how you are going to lock the smoke unit in place before you start cutting an modifying the smoke funnel you just bought. If the one you bought doesn't work, buy one that does, or make one. The fact that is too large is easier to get to work then one that is too small. After rereading how can the funnel be too wide to span the stack bosses. If it where too narrow that would not work. How you fix the smoke unit in place comes first, then size the funnel or...
I was not trying to be nasty ref M T H and the motor but that is what I was told on there Facebook site The UK Rep shop in Hailsowen repair man relay did try for me 10 out of 10 to him, some one on here even said that my Challenger was a heap of rubbish, after I sent them photos of it in bits no names but He knows who He is and He also is a Repair person it may well have looked that way to him I am HAPPY to say that it's not and we have a video to prove it
John I did think it was going to be nearly a No go my self once M T H said that there were none around and it could be a two year wait from China for the motor I must say it did still run OK with the rear motor pushing it along in the front room So all was not lost but it's great to have it running on both motors
Gunner what to you think about cutting the funnel in half then remolding the cut area using epoxy. If I do this I'll definitely have to grind the inside of smoke ports down to gain vertical room. Mike "Like my daddy always said cut twice and measure once!" Oops! He always said I never listened!
You can grind them down, or you fill the area around with epoxy to get a better surface area. As far as fit, what does chassis look like? As Long as smoke fan solder points do not touch chassis you may have proper clearance. IF the issue is seeing motor, slip heat shrink wrap around motor to color it black. G
Originally Posted by Lee Willis: Originally Posted by zhyachts: Oh, that is cool. Can you tell us more about it. Nice! Picked it up at York in the 70's for 25 bucks. I use it to pull nine small 6000 series box cars. They match quite well. A couple of 027 engines put together. There are several of these kicking around.
Eddie G is correct. Big articulated steam engines like the ones you listed were not produced by Lionel until the modern era starting around the mid- 1990s; long after the pre- and postwar periods. Only other Lionel "big steam" apart from examples from the postwar era that Eddie mentioned are prewar tinplate Standard Gauge sized trains like the 384E and 385E for example. During the entire postwar era Lionel was always looking to find ways to produce trains more economically, and a big...
Yeah, and it turned out that the 700E became an icon both for 3-railers and for the 2-rail scale crowd. I still have one 763 in my collection converted to scale 2-rail. Its tender is spliced from two shortie die cast 2226 tenders. I wonder if all these marvelous die cast models will become collectors items in the 2030's?
The biggest steam in the postwar years was the 746... The only 4-8-4 made by Lionel until the late 80s. Along with the 2-8-4 736 and 726, they are the only 8-wheel drive larger scale steamers. The 671 also had 8 drivers, but the wheels were so small, and the engine so squat that it was not close to scale.
In the 1970's and 1980's a man named Bob Gale in Horsham, PA (near Philly) sliced, diced and "kitbashed" common Lionel postwar locomotives to make everything from switchers to Big Boys, 4-12-2's, and "scale" GG-1's. He called his best models "Super Classics." Now and then one turns up, most likely at a big meet like York. His Big Boy comprised two Berkshire running gears. I think his 4-12-2's had 2 motors. As John posted, "O-31" and "0-27" were standard. Introduced for the UP M-10000...
well over a year ago my M TH Challenger's front motors gear was badly damaged I did ask M T H's rep here in England and the main M T H over the big pond but No out of date not made etc etc was the reply 2 friends Mark Harley and John Mallard both offered to see if they could lend a hand in repairing the Challenger and between them they have helped me repair the Challenger John had a word with a young man at Sommerfelds Trains & Hobbies who did find me the right...
Time to get serious about your trains! This RailKing Challenger is a masterpiece. Puffing smoke unit directionally controlled backup light Detailed illuminated cab with figures operating firebox glow sliding windows Proto 2.0 with freight yard effects I did not bother to unwrap the tender but it is also like new Only $600 plus shipping at actual cost in the original shipping box Thanks for looking Al
I was wondering if anyone was having problems out of their challenger engine? I have 2 of these engines and I have had nothing but problems out of mine.....AC regulator (both engines) IR transmitter (both engines) short in clinchfield that burnt up motor board and mother board and melted a bunch of wires and several smoke motors. I have 2 Y's and a big boy that run fine. I also have the N&W blue 44c and it operates great. Yes I have been using the AF 300 watt...
I received a Lionmaster Challenger back in December or January. It has run flawlessly since then and I really enjoy it. Recently I finally got cracking at securing the track on the layout, wiring etc., so the locomotive was on a shelf for some weeks. Took it down yesterday to run it ( felt bad cause the new Y6B was getting all the attention) and the rear truck keeps derailing. Mind you it doesn't jump the rail but the wheels on the inside of the curve lift. Picture a car on 2 wheels stunt.
Does anyone know how one would handle the upgrade in a locomotive with two smoke units i.e. protosound 1 challenger? The upgrade manual shows a smoke unit typical of a bigboy/challenger, but doesn't discuss 2 smoke units. I just upgraded my protosound 1 Berkshire and was thinking about doing a UP Challenger. Regards, Winger
I have a 1994 Challenger. I getting ready to upgrade with the new PS-3 Upgrade Kit. I've opened it up and removed the Seuthe Smoke Units. I had previously ordered a Lionel smoke funnel only to find it too wide to span the challenger smoke openings. The other problem is that the smoke unit I purchased looks like it will set too high due to the amount that the smoke holes are die cast into the boiler area. I'm looking to see how others, if any have solved this issue. If you have part numbers...
Hello everyone, I wanted to hear from historians which Big Steamers did Lionel produced Pre and Post War. Examples are Big Boys, Cab Forward, Challengers, etc..... I am getting back in the hobby now that I retired from the Army and...
Hello team, I had posted this on the classic O gauge forum and I was recommended to move it this this forum. I have both a Penn and NYC passenger set. Folks over at the other forum say its a lionel with custum paint? any ideas?
Dear Marc, Please contact me offline at firstname.lastname@example.org or 609-432-2871 EST. I have both Orient pass set w/Nord 4-6-2 and Rheingold pass set w/Green Bay 4-6-2 Both 2 rail scale and display only- never ran PS3. Regards, John
I have a Challenger and a Y3, I have had issues with the smoke unit fan motors, and I have them fixed by Lionel Service, but nothing else. No other problems. I run mine at home and at train shows on the club layout where they get lots of use, and they have been very good. Aflyer
This specific unit may have been conventional. The owner states it was sent to MTH in 1995 for a protosound 1.1 upgrade. Would the seuthe smoke units have been changed then or would they still be original. The current owner doesn't seem to know much about the smoke units. Mike
GGG, I didn't pick up on the model number in WInger's second post. Winger, I note the MTH web site lists a dealer in Nebraska still having one new. Might be worth checking what it would sell the new one for.
I just upgraded one of these. The original had two sluthe units. They must be drilled out and replaced with a single unit using a dual funnel. Although MTH boards will support two smoke units, I have never seen two units in a dual stack steam engine. You will need to purchase an MTH smoke unit and a Lionel funnel. You will also need to figure out how to mount it in the boiler. Good luck! Dave
Not entirely true. Some were glued in as was the one I upgraded. This may not have been done at the factory but it is not the only one I have seen. Oh and good luck getting that unit from MTH LOL. You can get the funnel from Lionel in 3 days. It was a perfect fit with some very slight modification to the mount. Dave
The Williams and Weaver models I've upgraded have all simply pushed out. I confess to having never had an MTH with the Seuthe smoke, although I just made a deal for one. However they come out, they will surely be replaced with a fan driven smoke unit.
Ask the seller if he has had it opened and how many and what type are they before you bid. If he ever did any service he should know. As was stated the upgrade kit can handle two units but it's really not recommended if they are Seuthe units, so having it correct could make a big difference. I even went back to the oldest parts catalog that I have that shows the schematics for all the model steam engines at that time and it doesn't show the Challenger at all. Sorry couldn't be more help,...
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