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LionelLegend ·
Ok thank you! I’ll hold off on the water tender
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Mth auxiliary water tenders

LionelLegend ·
Does anyone know if you can program an mth auxiliary water tender on a Lionel Legacy remote? The product numbers are 20-3126 and 20-3046.
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LionelLegend ·
Ok thank you. I wish Lionel would make the Norfolk and Western water tender that goes with 611 but oh well. How would you convert it to TMCC?
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MTH auxiliary tender variations

rrman ·
I searched MTH website for an appropriate tender to run with my PS3 Railking J engine. I found that currently, 30-79497 and 30-1117 are available but use thumbtack couplers, with no note if backup light equipped. The 20-3134 and 20-3619 are proto coupler equipped, and the 20-3619 is noted for PS3 engines (guessing backup lights are LED, not incandescent, and a wiring harness hookup to PS3 boards) only. Odd that the 30-XXX tenders don't have proto couplers (cost point or wiring hookup...
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Former Member ·
Buy all the parts to go inside for a TMCC or Legacy tenderand install them. Since the 611 is a passenger loco, the necessity for the water tender to function is kind of mute since they dont uncouple much or spend much time running in reverse. You want it to work they it should but you'll find that the reward of that project probably wont justify your efforts. Youll put in a bunch of time and some money to do something that doesnt get used that much.
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Trade 6-82395 for 6-82394

CSX Indy ·
I have a LNIB+shipper 6-82395 UP Auxiliary Water Tender #907856 available for trade of equal condition 6-82394.
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Lionel TMCC 6-28088 Norfolk & Western Auxiliary Water Tender

LionelLegend ·
Looking for a Lionel TMCC 6-28088 Norfolk & Western Auxiliary Water Tender to go with my Lionel Legacy Class A #1218 Thanks,
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gunrunnerjohn ·
Plan B would be to do a small mod to the aux tender and main tender. Use a 4-pin tether, I prefer the Miniatronics Micro-Mini Connectors , Two of the pins extend the coupler to the aux tender (you'll have to swap the coupler for a TMCC compatible version), and the other two are for the back up light. A DPDT switch installed under the tender can be used to switch the light and coupler to the aux tender or to the main tender. This mod will be a lot cheaper than doing the full TMCC upgrade for...
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SDIV Tim ·
Thr Railking Models are just empty shells with coupler tabs at each end. They use to be electric with a wire connected to the back of the tender. Don’t know if the Premier tenders are like that.
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gunrunnerjohn ·
The Premier models have a connector for the backup light and coupler that mates with the primary tender's tether. At least the two that I have are done that way. Both of the ones I have are later models and have an LED for the backup light, obviously for PS/3 locomotive/tender combos.
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LionelLegend ·
Do any of you think Lionel will ever make a Norfolk and Western auxiliary tender for the 611?
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Doug N ·
Didn’t they do that many years ago?
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LionelLegend ·
They did but it was for the A class 1218.
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gunrunnerjohn ·
Here's my Legacy Y6b with the 2016 MTH Tender, they also had one that matched the 611, I sold that one as I don't have that locomotive.
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RWDeano ·
John, Do you know if there is a compatibility problem with a PS3 Loco and a PS2 Aux tender? Back up light change to LED ? What about the Electro Coupler and the harness plug ? Thanks RWDeano
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gunrunnerjohn ·
The PS/3 tender would need a lamp change I suspect, but the couplers are the same between PS/2 and PS/3. I honestly don't know about the connector as I haven't really looked at the differences. That's one of those little details that I deal with when the issue arises. The PS/3 tender I have looks to have the same 4-pin tether connector as MTH uses for a variety of products. The main tender would have the tether as there is just a connector on the truck on the aux tender.
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MTH 20-3026 O Scale Premier Auxiliary Water Tender II (SOLD PENDING PAYMENT)

gunrunnerjohn ·
Really nice Norfolk & Western water tender, add some range to that nice J passenger train. No box, just the tender. Excellent condition, no bumps or scrapes. (SOLD PENDING PAYMENT) $75 + actual shipping. Contact me via my profile email address.
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Auxiliary power for tiu

Jeff gibs ·
What is the preferred power source for the tiu? I'm running aZ4000 to power the track and did have aZ1000 plugged into the tiu but wanted to take the Z1000 to run the track around the Christmas tree. Will a Z500 work well as auxiliary power for the tiu and does anyone have on for sale? Thanks
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willygee ·
Z500 works fine. Plug and play.
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rtr12 ·
I'll 2nd the Z500, My TIU has been powered by one from an MTH set for the last few years. Works great.
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Jeff gibs ·
Ok thanks for the advice. Going to try to find one. Saw some on the bay
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RJR ·
That's probably more power than you need, unless you're feeding 5 AIUs. You only need the brick. Wall warts or 15+/- volts, AC or DC, of 500ma or more would be adequate for a TIU with no AIUs.
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mountain482 ·
You cannot. The tenders have a coupler and back up light and require a connection to a locomotive via tether to function. You would have to convert them to work with TMCC so you could remotely control the coupler and light through Legacy.
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Former Member ·
I had plans to do one with TMCC parts until I realized that A) I never uncouple the cars from my passenger trains and B) I rarely run them in reverse and when I do, I dont care about the back up light since there are usually a set of passenger cars behind the loco. I also thought about Johns idear of adding the tether but I decided I could live with it and my time was better sent on other things. A tether is fiarly easy and straight forward but youre still looking at a number of hours of...
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gunrunnerjohn ·
Uhh... I think that's a Lionel question, I personally have no idea if that might happen. I wouldn't hold my breath if that's what you're asking.
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Former Member ·
I need an auxxtender for my J and my S3. Gina have to be an MTH one
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RWDeano ·
Thanks for the info, I will just have to open both tenders and see. Did not want to or would I buy new tenders over again if I can just R&R LED lamp. Thanks RWDeano
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gunrunnerjohn ·
You can use the LED for the PS/2, just add a 220 ohm resistor and make sure the polarity of the connection is correct.
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Lionel's New Auxiliary Water Tenders Coupler Height Issue and Fix

Davety ·
I purchased 3 of the new aux water tenders from Lionel, which I received 2 of last week. Running them around my layout and up my steep grades (5%) the dummy coupler would detach from the car or tender in front of it. I looked at the coupler height and found it to be a bit low. Looking at how the dummy coupler is attached to the truck it has the following components in this order when view upside down in my foam cradle. A C clip, washer, spring, 2 washers, the truck mounting, dummy coupler...
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Re: Lionel's New Auxiliary Water Tenders Coupler Height Issue and Fix

Gweedo ·
Just got done with the fix on the tender. Did the dummy coupler had to add a extra washer under the truck mount to get the height right. Did the other coupler also as it was low. Did not have to add a extra washer on that one. Thank You again for the fix.
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Jim D ·
I had the same problem. I had to add several washers to get it right. After I did that the tender coupler on the Challenger started to open when running. Took the tender off. I'll look at it another day Jim D.
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TIU DC auxiliary power input - does DC barrel polarity matter?

MI-Marc ·
I am planning to use AC to DC power adapters to supply auxiliary power to my new TIUs. I am using Z-4000s to power the track via the fixed ports. In the past, I purchased RadioShack adapters which supplied 18VAC to my existing TIUs which work fine. Now I have another source for my TIU auxiliary power adapters which are all 18VDC outputs. I know that the polarity for AC input to the TIU auxiliary power supply did not matter, but does the DC polarity for the input to the TIU auxiliary power...
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Re: Lionel TMCC 6-28088 Norfolk & Western Auxiliary Water Tender

LionelLegend ·
Still looking for
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Re: TIU DC auxiliary power input - does DC barrel polarity matter?

Alan Mancus ·
can purchase on the mth website !here is the part number! 50-240 https://www.mthtrains.com/50-240
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MI-Marc ·
Thank you for your reply, but I do not think the MTH 50-240 transformers are currently available. All the dealers I checked show backorder or pre-order. MTH's website says, "This product may not have shipped yet or is completely sold out. Click on the show button to see who might have it on order."
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Alan Mancus ·
that's not necessarily true you have to call midge at mth trains and she can tell you if the parts are available!
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gunrunnerjohn ·
I don't think it'll make any difference, the power is going through a bridge rectifier internally. Since both sides are truly floating in that power adapter, it shouldn't make a difference. All the ones I've used have had positive for the center connection, but that's just because it's what I had. eBay: 12V 2A DC Power Supply Adapter Adaptor WALL WART US-PLUG, 222737255104 Less than $6 shipped, this will do just fine for the TIU.
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stan2004 ·
eBay listing numbers go stale in a few months...so if you're stumbling on this thread in the future try "DC12V 2A adapter US Plug" in the eBay search box. Separately, answering a question that was not asked , the center-pin on the Aux Power Input connector is tied to the Black terminal of Fixed In1. This allows the same bridge rectifier in the TIU to be used to generate internal DC power from either the Aux Power Input or from Fixed In1 (if nothing is plugged into Aux Power). This is why you...
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gunrunnerjohn ·
Yes, Isolated is a key requirement, I try to make that clear whenever I post about these.
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GGG ·
There where also some issue about using DC on one and AC on other (Aux and F1), can't fully remember but polarity would matter. May be in Barry's book. I use a 12V AC for my bench test TIU with Z-4000 for channel power. G
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gunrunnerjohn ·
Barry talked about using DC on the fixed inputs and then having to watch the polarity of DC on the AUX power. I don't know why that would be an issue if AC on the AUX power works with DC on the fixed channels. I never got around to doing any testing of that since I don't routinely use DC on the TIU. I do use DC on my bench to do sound and chain file loads, my experience is they go smoother and faster with DC than AC.
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Auxiliary Power to TIU

DonnieD ·
I have read Barry's Broskowitz's book (DCS Companion 3rd edition) and followed the OGR posts about possible ways to provide power to the TIU via the Auxiliary Power input. I am wondering if this power supply will work for this purpose (note: I have 2 AIUs connected to the TIU). I was going to buy a used Z-500 brick to power the TIU, but this would a much cheaper purchase. Thanks in advance. 18VAC 2A AC-to-AC Wall Adapter Power Supply Output: 18 VAC @ 2 Amps Features: Input: 120VAC @ 60Hz...
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Re: Lionel's New Auxiliary Water Tenders Coupler Height Issue and Fix

NYC 428 ·
Good to know. Thanks!
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Gweedo ·
Thank you mine has the same problem. Will give it a go.
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Re: MTH 20-3026 O Scale Premier Auxiliary Water Tender II (SOLD PENDING PAYMENT)

Former Member ·
I am sorry I misuse this one. If it falls thrunlet me know, I could use one for my 261
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Re: MTH 20-3026 O Scale Premier Auxiliary Water Tender II (SOLD PENDING PAYMENT)

gunrunnerjohn ·
Too bad Matt, I must have priced it too cheap, I got six queries after I had it sold. That took all of about three minutes!
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LoganUP1982 ·
Hello, I just bought a tiu, but now I need a power up. I found the power source posted above on amazon, but I was wondering if the plug will fit in the tiu aux power input. Also, I will not be using an aiu, so is this too much power for just a tiu power up? Thanks for any help.
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Gilly@N&W ·
The simplest no-brainer, get a Z500 brick and just plug it in.
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DonnieD ·
I ultimately ended up getting a Z500 brick. When looking into the adapter above, it matched all the specs and plug size to fit the TIU. I found a brick on eBay that ended up being about the same price.
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stan2004 ·
Yes, the Amazon source will fit as it has a 5.5mm/2.1mm (outer/inner) coaxial plug. While it is capable of supplying 18V at 2 Amps which is 36 Watts (Watts = Volts x Amps), the TIU only draws what it needs (about 5 Watts). So it is not "too much power". Think of it like your house wall outlet. It can supply upwards of 1000 Watts but works fine even if you plug in a 1 Watt night-light. While the TIU manual suggests an AC source, you can also use a DC source - which are more widely available,...
 
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