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Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

Basil ·
I recently picked up a beautiful Weaver 1320LP Soo Line EMD 40-2.  This is my first model locomotive.  I bought it used and, naturally, it didn't come with the operating manual.  I've searched online using Google, but no luck in locating a manual.  Does anyone have a manual they could share or sell?  I'm also open to any suggestions to assist in finding one.  I want to use this beauty to it's full capacity and maintain it properly and fear I cannot do either...
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Knowledge of the art and science of graphics production

tplee ·
Does anyone have a source or the knowledge about the science and art of having custom engine graphics produced. I would like to have made, specific engine graphics for 40 engines each of EMD F3's both A & B units. Buzz Lee tplee@me.com
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Bill Davis ·
Originally Posted by Joe Allen: Bill, 1. First the reset chip is only for the 3 clanks of death and it will not work on any other problem but that and your engine doesn't have the 3 clanks of death. MTH repair persons have access to other chips for different scrambles not available to regular customers. 2. You can just swap top boards on your 2 engines and place the proper chips in them and they should work fine. If i can just swap the top board, I will try that. that sounds like a easy...
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Joe Allen ·
That's right G, just by pressing PROGRAM the last time on the Z-4000, it will lock in the reset feature without using the throttle handle. You can wait, but you don't have to, until the engine is completely shut down and the engine will still accept the feature change. Another hot one today, 97 degrees & humid here
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Joe Allen ·
Bill, 1. First the reset chip is only for the 3 clanks of death and it will not work on any other problem but that and your engine doesn't have the 3 clanks of death. MTH repair persons have access to other chips for different scrambles not available to regular customers. 2. You can just swap top boards on your 2 engines and place the proper chips in them and they should work fine. 3. Otherwise, I suggest you send your board to GGG and he can use his other chips to get the board to work with...
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

GGG ·
I agree Joe, I even gave him the manual method. A correction or 2 for your instructions though. When pressing Select for garbled bell, you then have to press it a second time for clear bell. Or hold it until clear bell is heard. After pressing program, you are suppose to immediately advance the throttle to come out of reset state and start engine movement. G
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Joe Allen ·
Originally Posted by GGG: I agree Joe, I even gave him the manual method. A correction or 2 for your instructions though. When pressing Select for garbled bell, you then have to press it a second time for clear bell. Or hold it until clear bell is heard. After pressing program, you are suppose to immediately advance the throttle to come out of reset state and start engine movement. G G, Your are right on the holding the SELECT until you hear the garbled bell sound and I'll correct it above.
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

GGG ·
Joe, When you press the program button the at the end, it actually turns off voltage and returns control to the handle which is at zero voltage. So the engine is timing out to shut down. I went back and read the tech manual and it has you raise the handle back up to voltage and that moves you out of reset state and into forward. I just remember reading instructions that stated you needed to move out of the reset state you made an adjustment on to ensure the change was taken. I have never...
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

GGG ·
When I say operating chip, I mean the original PS-1 chip. You also need to ensure you have a good battery. I presume you do since the engine can cycle into motion. Can you manually try to move through the reset states using the Z handle. Raise the voltage to full, and cycle the handle quickly down about 1/2 (12) way and back up. Do you get one clink? Do it again and see if you get 2 clinks. If so, continue to do it until you get 3 clanks and 3 clinks. Then press the whistle button and hold...
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

GGG ·
To properly do a reset you need to power up before the engine completely shuts down. You have not executed the reset. After you hit the program button, raise the throttles before 3 seconds. First thing I do with a new chip is power up conventionally and let the engine start up. This can take 3-5 seconds with a new chip as software is processed. Then lower to 10Vs for the direction change. Everything should work fine. If not, then do the Reset 18, but you must cycle power to get the engine...
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Bill Davis ·
Originally Posted by GGG: I did my best to follow your directions. So here is what I did: placed reset chip in engine, using my Z4000 throttle up-to 18 volts. let sit for about 3-4 seconds. throttle down and off. remove reset chip. Installed new chip, throttle up to 18 volts let sit for 3-4 seconds, throttle down to 10 volts, move forward (no sound) horn and bell work. power off. hit program button than reset 18 feature, hit select goes through motions. than hit program again (engine starts...
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Joe Allen ·
Bill, You are missing one step when you are trying to use reset 18 using the Z-4000. After you get the 3 clanks and 3 clinks, you need to press the SELECT again to get the warbled bell sound. Then press PROGRAM.
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

GGG ·
Now I am confused too. What reset chip are you using? I assumed from the video you purchased a new operating chip. Joe also caught another missed step too. With the operating chip in the board use the programming button and get to reset state 18. Then press and hold the select button to get a warbled bell and then a clear bell. Release the select button, press program to come out of program mode. (Voltage drops to zero); then immediately raise the throttle to get the engine moving. Don't let...
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

pennsyk4 ·
what good is the reset chip, if it does not come with clear and concise instructions for it's use?
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

GGG ·
Charlie it does:-) But the thing that confuses people, and the instructions explain it, ...is that the Make PS reset kit is only for engines that give three clanks on start up. It is not a reset chip for all issues. G
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Bill Davis ·
Originally Posted by pennsyk4: I agree, the reset chip doesn't say anything more than I have done. I will do what say above and comment in a few. what good is the reset chip, if it does not come with clear and concise instructions for it's use?
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Bill Davis ·
Originally Posted by GGG: Now I am confused too. What reset chip are you using? (the MTH reset chip 50-1023 ) I assumed from the video you purchased a new operating chip. Yes, I purchased from MTH. Joe also caught another missed step too. With the operating chip in the board use the programming button and get to reset state 18. Then press and hold the select button I did this. once I selected reset 18 it went into reset mode on the z4000. I held the select button down (no sounds) but it just...
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Bill Davis ·
Originally Posted by Bill Davis: I so agree, maybe these are things people figured out over time. I have used the reset chip on other engines and have had no problems at all. this one is not playing nice. Originally Posted by pennsyk4: I agree, the reset chip doesn't say anything more than I have done. I will do what say above and comment in a few. what good is the reset chip, if it does not come with clear and concise instructions for it's use?
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Bill Davis ·
I have a stranger question. when I use my reset chip and it does it's reset. Mine sounds like a steam engine at first. are there maybe two types one for steam and one for diesel?
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Joe Allen ·
Bill, Did you try a reset 18 again to see if it will work first? I would try this first as you didn't do it right in the video and is worth a try. It will also get you familiar with doing other programming such as horn in neutral which I do on every PS! engine since I use a Z-4000 also. 1. With the handles in the off position, press PROGRAM 2. Bring it up to 18 3. Press SELECT 4. Listen for the 3 clinks and 3 clanks 5. Press SELECT until you hear the garbled bell sound 6. Then press PROGRAM...
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Bill Davis ·
Well, I got the engine fixed. The reset just didn't work, I had an extra top board and changed it out. It now works fine. very strange what happened, But it is all good now. Thanks to this forum, I wouldn't of known were to go and how to get this engine fixed. Thanks to my buddy Buzz Lee who recommended this to me. Thank you so much gentlemen, I tip my hat to you.
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Re: Proto sound 1 problem

Joe Allen ·
Bill, Probably was a ID conflict with the Metra chip. Save the board as it probably will work with another.
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Researching the 1939 GM 103, FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator units #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b)

Last Train Outta Sydney ·
G'day one and all. I've been researching the limited historical data and photographs of the 1939 GM FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator when it went on it's PR campaign journey in May of 1939. Photo graphs of the Road Numbers #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b) are as rare as hens teeth. Does anyone here have a book, link, film footage, media release or photographs regarding this GM PR campaign? Please feel free to comment you knowledge of this event.  Regards...
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Re: Knowledge of the art and science of graphics production

Rich Melvin ·
I moved this here from the Tech Support forum.
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Proto sound 1 problem

Bill Davis ·
https://www.facebook.com/photo...p;type=2&theater I hope all can open the video, this is a better description than I could type here. This is a 1996 proto-sound 1 metra engine MTH EMD-F40PH Metra 135 Arlington Heights Item 20-2149LP email: Tcaindy@aol.com
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Re: Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

RJR ·
Basil, I have that SD40-2 loco, from the early 90's, in SAL livery. Bought it from a small Weaver dealer in Maryland named Mike's Train House (now MTH). It is an outstanding loco and gets used fairly regularly. Still has the original traction tires and has given me no problems. Originally mine was horn only, but I upgraded it to DCS over 10 years ago. I'll take a look around and see if I can find the manual, but I have a lot of train stuff filed ( ) away and may not be able to find it.
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Re: Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

Basil ·
Well, i found a guy selling one on ebay and he scanned and emailed it to me. Problem solved. Now if only i could figure out what those two items in the pics are for.
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Re: Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

Jim Berger ·
first pic: scale size bell,just like the prototype.....2nd pic ,screw is volume adjustment for proto sounds speaker.....make sure the 8.4 battery in it is charged before you run it further....i have about 15 of these weaver sd 40s in my collection.......easy way to tell if your engine has proto-1 or reverse unit w/horn is the latter has manual couplers...-Jim
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Re: Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

RJR ·
Jim, a Weaver would not have PS1; it would have a QSI unit. Now QSI did make the early versions of PS1, before MTH & QSI got involved in a lawsuit.
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Re: Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

Basil ·
I'm not sure how to tell whether the battery is charged or not. I know this: this loco runs and sounds awesome. I removed the base and upon seeing that there is a computer in there, I put the top back on without touching a thing. I don't know if it has a horn as i have no way of activating a horn right now. I do the coulers are electric as there are two wires soldered to each. And I have no idea how to activate those, either. If you cannot tell, I'm a complete and utter noob. I bought this...
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Re: Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

RJR ·
My SD40-2 did not have all those sounds. Anyone having a manual for a loco equipped with the QSI DCRU sounds unit should be able to provide useful info. I don't recall any such silver button on mine; I'm not where I can look.
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Re: Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

Basil ·
Thanks for looking! I have engine sounds and a bell. I don't know if I have a horn. My transformer doesn't have a button for a horn, etc. When I turn the dial, the diesel powers up and a bell rings. If I turn the dial down, the air brakes sound, if off then on, the engine starts in forward. Foremost, I'd like to clean the body. I'm nervous to take ot apart. I'm not sure which screws hold what. There is also a bell looking silver colored button on the bottom, I'm curious what that is. I can...
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Re: Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

Basil ·
Thank you very much for even looking! I am completely new to this hobby, having dug my old Lionel 8500 out of storage I restored it and then essentially went crazy buying stuff. I went from having a few plastic cars and that 8500 to a full train of O gauge and a bunch of track, mostly Marx 034 or 36 and switches. I have an old 75 watt transformer, but by simply turning the dial I get bells and engine sounds as well as travel, of course. I'd love to maximize the use of this SD40-2, though, as...
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Re: Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

D500 ·
Basil - I'll look for my manual, also, but we'll see - I got mine second-hand years ago and I may not even have it. The loco is very simple (assuming that it is stock), and is built like a tank, in a good way. The Weaver SD40-2 (built by Samhongsa, I believe) is a good place to start in 3RO. It's accurate, also, with more than enough detail for me. There is not a lot in the manual, as I recall - but, still good to have, especially when starting out.
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Re: Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

RJR ·
I'm not having any luck finding in in my pile of manuals. It might be in the box, which is under a few hundred boxes. I am sure we could find a DCRU manual, which is the reversing unit that came with it. Do you have locomotive sounds (engine, bell, horn) or just horn? The loco is really very simple, and we could answer any questions you might have. I expect any Weaver diesel manual from the early 90's would suffice.
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Re: Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

Basil ·
Perhaps you guys can help with these couple of questions : 1. In the first picture, what is that silver bell-shaped thing for? 2. In the second pic, what does that flat-head screw do? In kind of looks like a tension screw of sorts.
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Re: Researching the 1939 GM 103, FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator units #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b)

PAUL ROMANO ·
I remember reading a while ago in "Railfan & Railroad" magazine that an A unit of the the original A-B-B-A set was in Mexico, possibly preserved or stored. It was Northern Pacific prior to that. Like I said that was a while back.
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Re: Researching the 1939 GM 103, FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator units #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b)

Hot Water ·
I'm pretty sure Railfan and Railroad Magazine did a full issue on the 50th anniversary of the 103, when EMD had the big open-house celebration in October 1989. I can't remember exactly what month that R&R did that, but it was pretty much all written by Editor Jim Boyd.
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Re: Researching the 1939 GM 103, FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator units #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b)

PAUL ROMANO ·
I think 1989 may be right. I knew Jim Boyd from photo shoots he did on the NYS&W. He was a great guy.
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Re: Researching the 1939 GM 103, FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator units #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b)

mike.caruso ·
Thanks for the photos, Al. Interesting stuff. It's fascinating, to me at least, to look at these pictures and consider that around the time they were taken, Hitler's invading Poland, Lou Gehrig's giving his farewell speech, and Batman is making his first appearance in comic books. Guess I never really appreciated just how far back these demonstrators go.
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Re: Researching the 1939 GM 103, FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator units #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b)

CNJ 3676 ·
Morning, Al. Withers Publishing released a book specifically about the FT as part of its outstanding Diesel Era series of titles. http://www.dieselera.com/#!pro...revolutionary-diesel I have a copy and recommend it highly. The book is comprehensive in its coverage beginning with the introduction of the demonstrator and it then presents a thorough review of the sales and operational histories of the model. Are there particular pieces of information regarding the demonstrator and introductory...
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Re: Researching the 1939 GM 103, FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator units #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b)

Last Train Outta Sydney ·
Thank Stix, I'll look into getting the DVD. Much appreciate your input here on this.
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Re: Researching the 1939 GM 103, FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator units #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b)

Ted Hikel ·
Al Both Ron Nixon and Warren McGee photographed the 103 in freight and passenger service on the NP in 1940. Seventeen of their photos are available on line in the Ron Nixon collection of the Museum of the Rockies. The second photo that you posted was taken by Ron Nixon in Missoula, MT on March 6, 1940. Note that the NP's dynamometer car is behind the 103. http://www.morphotoarchive.org/rvndb/ Ron Nixon captured the 103 in Missoula on March 16, 1940 with 121 cars and 6141 tons.
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Re: Researching the 1939 GM 103, FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator units #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b)

rdunniii ·
While you think you may be looking at an ABBA set you are actually looking at two locomotives each made up of a cab and a booster that were not identified individually. Hence the front two are 103( or 103A) and the rear two are 103A (or 103). The cab and the booster were connected by a drawbar and could not be operated individually or separated outside shops for several reasons including the cab not having the batteries necessary to start it and the booster having no controls at all. The cab...
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Re: Researching the 1939 GM 103, FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator units #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b)

wjstix ·
I can't remember the name (or find it online) but there's a video/DVD that came out a while back on restoring the FT 103 A-B set (actually an original 103 A unit with an early production Southern B unit) by GM. It's a couple of hours long, and has old film of the original FT 103 A-B+B-A set, and a great history of all the F units. I have it somewhere, if I can dig it out I'll post more about it.
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Re: Researching the 1939 GM 103, FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator units #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b)

Hot Water ·
That would be the Mark I video, much of which was shot at EMD in preparation for the big 1989 open house for the 50th anniversary of the FT demonstrator. A little known fact, the 4 section "set" (the tern 'unit' had yet to be used in 1938/1939), was originally numbered 1030 & 1031. The very first builder photos show 1030 and 1031 in the number boards. Nobody knows why the Sales Dept. had the number changed to "103" but the rest is history.
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Re: Researching the 1939 GM 103, FT Electro Motive Division (EMD) demonstrator units #103 and #103A and B units #103(b) and #103A(b)

wjstix ·
Yup that's it, "FT 103: The Diesel That Revolutionized Railroading in America" by Mark I Video, "Railfan Video Classics" series. I have the 1989 VHS tape, but I imagine it was reissued on CD at some time. Runs 2 hours, really good info on FT-103 and all F units. Interestingly, the restored "FT 103" set had only the A unit powered. The B unit had I think been used as a heater car or something, and didn't have an engine...so a real case of "dummy" B unit!
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Re: No MTH, that is NOT a GP38-2!

ES44AC ·
This run of Dash 8's had it, as did a run of Dash 9's from 2 years ago or so. Some of the newer SD60's (RK and Premier) have that problem as well, they sound like an SD40, rather than a 710 prime mover. Also, some of the earlier runs of GP30 sounded like non-turbo 567's, which is inaccurate.
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