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Re: Holy Smoke - Check this picture out...

Borden Tunnel ·
Here is the back of the postcard in question; RDG Fan is correct as to the circumstances, this was in the early 1970s.I personally don't see any face in the smoke, but my eyesight isn't what it used to be and I don't live in a place where marijuana is legal, LOL ... FYI, the "OLD MAN IN THE MOUNTAIN" rock face in Franconia,NH, referenced by J. Daddy unfortunately collapsed due to natural causes in 2003.
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Help Needed On Smoke Issues

taki53 ·
I am having problems on deciding on using mth protosmoke or mega smoke on my mth engines. I have a new mth long island alco diesel that smokes very lightly. After a while I find myself adding more fluid as the smoke seems to dwindle. Is this normal? I don't want to over fill the engine with fluid. I'm experiencing the same issue with a big boy ps1 steam engine as well. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
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Holy Smoke - Check this picture out...

Murnane ·
Was poking around on the bay and saw this picture, check out the smoke and let me know what you see!   Anyone ever see anything like this before?  Crazy! Original link   here . Best...Rich
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Lionel 2-6-0 6-11150 Ten Wheeler NYC

Brian Dugan ·
Would someone tell me if the smoke unit fan is supposed to stay on when the engine is at rest?  My engine puffs smoke when it is moving, but the fan does not function when it stops moving.  The smoke unit stays on, but no steady stream of smoke comes out.  Maybe I'm having a senior moment but I thought it was supposed to keep functioning at idle.  I just happened to notice it a couple of days ago.  All of my other Legacy steam locomotives produce steady streams of...
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Re: Lionel 2-6-0 6-11150 Ten Wheeler NYC

Brian Dugan ·
I apologize for the wrong ID of a ten wheeler(4-6-0). I don't know what I was thinking-or was I thinking! I very much appreciate the information. A 2-6-0 is a mogul-I'm just trying to make myself feel better!!!! Oh well, no one is perfect. I have the new Lionel 6-82271 NYC 4-6-0 on it's way(there I got it right). I was planning on double heading the new one with the old one. It will be a bit weird, but placing the old one as the second engine will be a bit more prototypical. The NYC used...
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gunrunnerjohn ·
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Re: Lionel 2-6-0 6-11150 Ten Wheeler NYC

Bob Delbridge ·
Brian, fix your topic title, a 2-6-0 isn't a "Ten-Wheeler".
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gunrunnerjohn ·
Yep, the Legacy 10-wheeler doesn't do idle smoke, that's one annoyance with mine as well. I've thought about replacing the fan controller with my Super-Chuffer to fix that, just haven't gotten around to it yet. This locomotive has an odd cobbled up bunch of custom boards, I think early on in the Legacy product line they didn't have things totally laying flat yet. I suspect the newer one that just came out has a different board and probably does the idle smoke properly.
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Re: Lionel 2-6-0 6-11150 Ten Wheeler NYC

sinclair ·
I hope so as I'm getting one for my birthday in a couple months.
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Re: Lionel 2-6-0 6-11150 Ten Wheeler NYC

gunrunnerjohn ·
Since it's running the new RCMC electronics, I'm sure it has the latest smoke features. Doesn't that one also have whistle smoke?
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Re: Lionel 2-6-0 6-11150 Ten Wheeler NYC

D500 ·
2 + 6 = 8, so far.
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Re: Help Needed On Smoke Issues

Scott T Johnson ·
If its a twin stack diesel those can have problems usually related to the oil not wanting to get into the smoke chamber via the plastic manifold that connects the smoke chamber to the stacks. If you search the forum there are lots of threads on different tricks that can help. My approach is to remove the shell, make sure the wick is arranged right around the resistor then add smoke directly to the chamber. Not for everybody but I've cured several engines of no smoke or weak smoke output in...
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Re: Help Needed On Smoke Issues

KOOLjock1 ·
Mike Reagan has a great tutorial on his YouTube channel on this. I find that adding One Full Dropper to fan driven units about five minutes after shutting down for the evening delivers best results. Jon ��
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Re: Help Needed On Smoke Issues

graz ·
I agree with Scott regarding the plastic funnels making it difficult for the fluid to ever really reach the wick. It tends to adhere to various surfaces along the way. when possible, using a syringe to shoot the fluid directly into the batting is best.
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Jeff T ·
Don't you just love problem child locos... Have you tried filling the smoke fluid the night before you run and blowing down the stack?
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Re: Help Needed On Smoke Issues

phillyreading ·
I would use the MTH smoke fluid, it's what your engine came with. About filling the engine with smoke fluid, add about 6 drops. Never completely fill the smoke unit as it may spit or pop fluid out. Lee Fritz
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Re: Holy Smoke - Check this picture out...

mackb4 ·
Or Old Man Winter ??
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Re: Holy Smoke - Check this picture out...

Matt01 ·
LOLOLOL Anyway, for some reason it looks like Charlton Heston to me .....
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Re: Holy Smoke - Check this picture out...

ReadingFan ·
That photo was taken when Reading T-1 2102 was running on the C&O Greenbrier (Durbin) Branch to the Cass Scenic Railroad - in the 1970's, I think. I hadn't noticed the face in the smoke but when I see a Reading T-1 I don't look for anything else. I'll dig around and try to find that post card but this one looks authentic to me. Someone would have to track down this post card in the first place and then Photoshop the face in the smoke. I suppose it's possible but it seems more work than...
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Re: Holy Smoke - Check this picture out...

J Daddy ·
Ha... cool, was this taken in New Hampshire?
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Murnane ·
That's a great picture J Daddy!
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Hot Water ·
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Murnane ·
If seeing the shape of a face in the smoke makes me a newbie I'm fine with that! At first I thought the image was fake, then I thought it was creepy, now I just think it's fantastic!
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J Daddy ·
Well don't feel bad, I am not a Newbie and I have never seen it before... thank you for posting.
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sawdust43 ·
photoshop?...interesting, never the less...sorta reminds me of this one from way, way back...here's link... http://www.pmgnotes.com/news/v...erNewsArticleID=2791 howard...
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Re: Holy Smoke - Check this picture out...

Murnane ·
Hi Howard! thanks for the link, my kids and I love checking out stuff for "hidden messages", usually we look at logos (FedEx, Wendys, etc.). The postcard looks legitimate, but who knows? I saw it on the bay while poking around looking for inspiration for Switcher Saturday. J Daddy, thanks for the vote of confidence, although I don't mind being called a newbie! All the best...Rich
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improved 0-8-0 and 4-4-2 locomotives

oysters ·
I finally inserted bridge rectifiers into my two conventional Lionel steam locomotives (starter set 0-8-0 and a 2002 4-4-2). Placed a single 4 amp rectifier in each locomotive, with rectifier in series between E-unit and motor. I used the methods mentioned by many of you...diagram available here: https://www.dallee.com/PDFs/MotorDiodeDrop.pdf The results: modest smoke increase in the 4-4-2, with noticeably slower, smoother startup. This locomotive has a Seuthe unit, so I'm still...
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Re: Early steam engines with smoke Egolf ... how did it work ?

MaxSouthOz ·
When I saw the email notification, I thought it was going to be about a ball game played on social media.
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Early steam engines with smoke Egolf ... how did it work ?

Carey Williams ·
Hello O scale world ..today steam engines steam ..but that was not always the case.... Flyer and Lionel had steaming steamers introduced in 1946 .... but I'm talking early has any one ever seen a Egolf engine with a smoke unit ? How did it work? Egolf was one the earliest advocates for O scale ... any Egolf models out there ? Below a few ads for Egolf ..note with smoke ! Ads are from Model Maker 1926 &27 ..a full 20 years before the big boys had smoke ..you could say they got smoked.
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Re: Smoke heat element

TrainLarry ·
See here for the complete circuit board with the element. See the third item from the top. Smoke unit PCB It does not look like the element is available alone. Larry
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Smoke heat element

pete ·
I need a new element for mikado. Where to buy one or mail in to repair. Thanks for any help or direction.
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Re: Smoke unit LC+ RS3

Art ·
Get a good needle nose pliers on the head of screw and break it loose, I had to do this on one of my LC+ smoke units. Art
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Smoke unit LC+ RS3

SeanG ·
I have a Lionchief Plus RS3 that suddenly won't smoke. Bought (new) in 2015, I run the RS3 all the time and it gives no trouble. I usually run it without smoke operation though. However, I do like to run the smoke unit to show off to guests. Today, with the new Lionel Pine scent in hand, I added a few drops and got nothing. The Smoke unit switch is turned on. I've let the unit warm up, ran it, etc. and still nothing. I saw a troubleshooting tip on another thread about shutting off the sound...
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Jeff T ·
Couple things... After a smoke unit has been without fluid it will usually take more than a few drops, say 10-15... If that doesn't work, are you adverse to taking the shell off?? Taking a look inside might be good.
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SeanG ·
Jeff T, thanks for the reply. Let my try 10-15 drops....see how that shakes out.
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SeanG ·
Hey Jeff T, I did give that a go. Gave it a good dozen drops, and still no change. Ran it for a bit, forward/reverse, still nothing. I am not adverse to taking off the shell but where to from there? Thanks again.
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Jeff T ·
Sometimes we tend to run the smoke units a little too dry. When you do the wick will get a good char and be unable to absorb the fluid. Carefully open up the smoke unit and see if the portion of the wick touching the resistor is charred. If you're unsure along the way post some pics, plenty of help here. I believe the manual will tell you what screws to remove to pop the shell.
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SeanG ·
I think I am on the trail! Even though I drained the smokestack before opening the RS3, I still had some smoke fluid to deal with once inside. Some of the drops though, are brown - I have never added anything that wasn't clear! I can't get the circuit board to remove from the motor unfortunately, 1 of the 3 screws is fighting me. I can see the resistor you spoke of through a opening in the circuit board. From what I can see it's all gunked up. Almost like ear wax (gross I know) but that's...
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Jeff T ·
Post a pic if you can, you know, the thousand words thing.
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Jeff T ·
This should be your smoke unit. https://www.lionelsupport.com/...02-a000-8a92309ea44d
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SeanG ·
I looked at your diagram (very informative, btw) and this is where I am stuck, can't get that third screw out of the PCB.
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SeanG ·
Sure thing!
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Jeff T ·
Yuck... OK, toss the wick material. You then want to use a soft brush to clean the crud left on the resistor. New wick material and you should be good to go.
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SeanG ·
Thanks Art - did just that! Open Sesame as they say
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SeanG ·
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SeanG ·
Okay, I cleaned it up pretty good. But the re-wicking procedure; I don't have a clue on how to do that. Also, all the gunk that I took out of there, was some of that the batting? I seen batting in the diagram you shot me.
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Jeff T ·
Thanks Sean!! Just trying to pay back a little for all I've learned from this forum!!! Good luck getting it smoking again!
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Jeff T ·
Wick. You can reorder from Lionel or your local hobby shop. When I'm in a pinch I've used tiki torch wick. Pull off the plastic shield and fluff it up a bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkDlQ5Cwwlk&t=12s This video will show you a bit. just be sure not to block the opening from the bowl to the fan. You can also use a 9 volt battery, while the smoke unit is out of the engine, to test the fan.
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SeanG ·
Jeff T, thanks so much, this has been very informative - you rock! I live near Charles Ro, will swing by sometime later this week, and when I do I will gladly update this thread. Thanks again.
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SeanG ·
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