Tagged With "O72"

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Disappointed with O-Line O72 switch tracks

Dan Padova ·
In the continued tested of my new layout, I have been trying out several of the locomotives I have purchased over the past couple of years. Some are post-war Lionel, some are K-Line and also RMT. When the K-Line and RMT locomotives pass over an O-Line O72 switch track, they will stall. Unless I move the loco by hand, it will not regain power. You can imagine my dissapointment. The RMT locos I have tested are a pair of Beefs (tethered together) and the #51 Navy switcher Beep. The Beefs fair...
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Please comment on current 13.5'x9.5' layout

Kirk R ·
I've been working on this layout for some time and I think I came upon a design I actually like. It is 13.5'x9.5' and has 3 separate loops, an Inglenook siding, reverse loops, access and room for operating accessories based upon some recent track and engine acquisitions that forced me to adjusted the previous design (which I was not in love with anyway). Total size is 13.5'x9.5' with a fully independent, elevated (trestle opportunity) outer O72 loop. I played with on/off ramps for this outer...
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wanted: Fastrack O72 full circle (16 pieces)

Garrett76 ·
Anyone have some extra track at a good price? Thanks
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Lionel tubular turnouts/switches O72

MichiganDiesel ·
First off I’d like to say I’m a long time viewer of this forum. The knowledge on this forum has helped me out tremendously because it’s been a long time since I ran trains as a kid and boy did the hobby come a long way super excited to be back. Switched over from conventional to TMCC/Legacy and soon to be MTH once the basement is complete. But again, thank you for the knowledge on this forum. So I decideed to take down my two looping main lines to allow for a single mainline that will...
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O72 Switch Tracks

Dan Padova ·
I believe there are two versions of Lionel O72 switch tracks that were made in the modern era. I have read some discussions about the pros and cons of each of them. However, at the moment I don't recall which of the two is the better one. I wonder if anyone can chime in with their thoughts.
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Re: Lionel Fastrack Wanted

PSAP2010 ·
Marc, I don't think Lionel makes a manual O72 switch. I believe they are all either remote or Command Control. Larry
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Re: Lionel Fastrack Wanted

suzukovich ·
I might be able to help you out. My email is in my profile. Doug
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Re: Lionel Fastrack Wanted

cjack ·
Menards has been selling 10" straights for 12.99 for four...bubble pack.
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Re: Lionel Fastrack Wanted

mjsachnoff ·
thanks Larry!
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Re: Lionel Fastrack Wanted

mjsachnoff ·
Originally Posted by cjack: Menards has been selling 10" straights for 12.99 for four...bubble pack. thanks Chuck!
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

gunrunnerjohn ·
Download the free version of AnyRail and experiment with the Fastrack library. I'd do it for you, but I don't know the center-to-center spacing of the MTH building.
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

gunrunnerjohn ·
Here's the parts for a 4.5" center to center spacing...
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Porsche1662 ·
Thanks I did try that and it looks like 2 5" in straight and 2 -072 1/2 circles but I only have one shot at getting the right pieces on order before Christmas so was hoping someone else knew for sure. the shed is 5.25" apart.
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Porsche1662 ·
thanks can you try that with a 6-12047 ?
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Porche1662, I think you are going to need to make some custom FasTrack pieces to make it all happen perfectly, the FT base is pretty wide for the MTH 2 Staller, please post some pictures, when you have completed your project, I am thinking of making one also. PCRR/Dave
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Porsche1662 ·
I have one set up using a 060 switch. The shed is made for MTH track however on the bottom of the shed it has a few brackets that you can remove to use the fastrack. Slides in very nice. I can easily maneuver my #765 and my #611 inside both sides
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

CAPPilot ·
For some reason my RR-Track software will not connect any track to the fast track O-72 wye piece, so this is a best guess. Fast Track does not have many 11.25 degree curve sections (only O-36, O-72, and O-84) . Of those, the O-84 fits best to get the 5 inch center-to-center track spacing of the MTH shed. Combo is the wye, then a 1.375" straight, then the O-84 curve. Maybe someone can try this on a different program to confirm.
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

gunrunnerjohn ·
Looks like four 1.37" segments gets the 5.25 spacing with the 11 degree curves.
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Porsche1662 ·
Thanks Gunrunner. I agree and that what I will plan on doing. It seems like I aways need to order more of the little 1.37 !!! All my switches make me crazy figuring out the right combos. Thanks !
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Porsche1662 ·
Oh and not to be nosey. our profiles are almost Identical. You need to add a boat to the mix !!! I am an FFL I have lots of fast cars and I am a private Pilot ! Im a boater during the summer in Catawba island
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

PRR1950 ·
I tried Cappilot's configuration in SCARM and came up with a 5 inch track separation, center to center. If Porsche 1662's 5.25 inch centers for the engine shed is correct, then Cappilot"s configuration will not work. Looks like a couple of others beat me to the punch. Oh well. Chuck
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

gunrunnerjohn ·
I've owned a number of boats over the years, but I don't happen to have a boat nowadays. We used to have a vacation house on a lake in NE-PA, and I had a couple of sailboats and of course the ski-boat for the kids and guests.
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

PRR1950 ·
Just tried GRJ's method (two 1.375 inch pieces on each side of the wye), and the SCARM program set the distance between track centers at 5.5 inches. To get good fit, you may have to cut down two of those 1.375 inch pieces. Plus, if I remember the instructions correctly, they recommend a regular (right or left hand) O72 switch for proper track spacing. Chuck
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

gunrunnerjohn ·
Chuck, don't know what to tell you, but Anyrail measures the result at exactly 5.26", close enough to what he needs. I'm using the O72 half-curves, the O72 Y, and the 1.37" fitters. If my O72 Y wasn't buried somewhere, I'd give it a try on my bench...
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

gunrunnerjohn ·
I don't get those measurements with a plain O72 switch. Looks like 5.5" to me, how are you getting something different?
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

CAPPilot ·
All, I do not have an MTH dual stall engine shed, so I check the specs of the piece on MTH's web site. MTH says the spacing is 5" center-to-center which is what I used. Porsche1662, are you sure the spacing is 5 1/4"? If so, MTH needs to fix their web site.
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

rtr12 ·
You have to use the 120xx make up piece on each outlet of the wye. They are on the turnout menu just below the wye selection. I think there are a couple of other Fastrack turnouts that also require these pieces. I believe these are the pieces included with select turnouts. I started out to use Fastrack a few years ago, but went with Atlas instead and I have forgotten a few things...
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

PLCProf ·
Just happened to have the pieces on hand! Two 1.375 per leg into a O-72 half curve.
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

gunrunnerjohn ·
Pretty close, looks like a tiny bit narrower. A slight "adjustment" of the track spacing will probably fix that. Still don't know what I did with the O72 Y switch, it's around here somewhere...
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Porsche1662 ·
Here is one of my other shed 5.25
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Porsche1662 ·
Looks like a match !!!!!
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Porche1662, Great job and no custom track, way to go! PCRR/Dave
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Moonman ·
CAPPilot, The wye needs the 12xx 1 3/8" fitters. They are half-roadbed pieces. RRT won't let it connect as a default protection.
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Moonman ·
Porsche1666, I get a 3/8" difference between the O60 switch and the O72 Wye. You can probably wiggle that. You should lay the line of the 1" on the center. I don't trust those ends of the tape for tight work. GRJ, I haven't been able to confirm if AnyRail includes the 1 3/8" half-road piece automatically. RRT & SCARM do not.
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

gunrunnerjohn ·
Anyrail drops the three extra pieces on the layout without connecting them, so the switch you see there is just the bare "Y" switch with what I indicated to create the spacing.
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Casper ·
Hello I’m new to the forum and can across this post, so you can accomplish using the mth dual stall with 0-60 fastrack switch. I don’t have much room to fit this so I want to make sure I have the space before ordering. Thanks
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Moonman ·
It takes O48 curves to make to O60 switch work to a 5.25 center rail spacing. It is about 40" long , but that doesn't include the approach to the switch. The wye is the shortest method.
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Casper ·
thank you Moonman, are you able to do a diagram like that using a wye? I don’t have a pc so can’t get the software.
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Re: o72 Fastrack switch into an MTH duel stall building

Moonman ·
GRJ posted it above on 12/20/15 What is missing is the (2) 6-12035 bumpers at the ends of straights or (2) 6-12059 Earthen bumpers. I like the earthen here - they are shorter and take up less space inside You decide... This is about 29" long before adding the bumpers
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Re: Keeping Atlas CZ on the Rails

Boilermaker1 ·
I have no issues on atlas O72, nor issues on Lionel O72 tubular. I've even tried running them on O72 with Kadees and they work just fine with no lifting or tracking issues. You can check that the gauge of the track is correct and also the wheels. The other thing you can do is adjust the coupler bar to see if that helps your problem, or at least eliminates the issue that one car may be pulling the one next to it off the track. Also, the coupler should swing back and forth a bit, make sure...
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Re: Keeping Atlas CZ on the Rails

tplee ·
Thanks for the suggestions, emails, and Bill at the Atlas service department. An additional issue was discovered with the Atlas CZ cars. Some of the uncoupler lever buttons hang way to low and only have a 1/64 clearance. The steam and air hoses also seem to be too low and catch on switches. The steam hose comes off easy, the brake line not so easy. It actually needs to be bent up. The whole coupler needed to be raised. I did try to use nail polish to insulate it from shorting, it wasn't...
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Re: Keeping Atlas CZ on the Rails

J Daddy ·
Yes I noticed the coupler "thumb tacks" were loose as well. I had great performance from one car I purchased, the dome car. However when I purchase 2 more and coupled them together, that's when all #*&$ broke loose. The adjustable couple works but it will need some tweaking around the layout. S curves they hate, and any switch less than O 100 seems to create issues. The other track item is any up/down transition in the rails has to be so slight, or else the bolster of the truck will bind...
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Re: Keeping Atlas CZ on the Rails

mikemike ·
I have Ross 072 switches. No Problems. The uncoupler buttons are a problem for me when they droop and short out. Solution cover with electrical tape. The coupler length adjustment is critical. If they are not set correctly derailments will occur. Mine even run on a curve that is slightly smaller than 072.
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Re: WTB Lionel Legacy P.M. 6-11455 and Atlas O54, O63, O72 tracks

VinhCTrinh ·
Thank you Gunny and Mark for the Atlas tracks!!!
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Re: WTB Lionel Legacy P.M. 6-11455 and Atlas O54, O63, O72 tracks

VinhCTrinh ·
Also looking for Pere Marquette 6-11455
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Re: Lionel tubular turnouts/switches O72

Pine Creek Railroad ·
MD, I recommend you test and get your 072 switches working correctly, then insert them back into your layout and test run them again. The newer 072 switches do have some problems, you may need to take them apart and see if any of the wiring has been damaged. I also recommend you Upgrade Track and Switches for your new Train Room layout, especially sense you already own Lionel Legacy. Invest in FasTack with FTCC Switches for problem free running, you will not be sorry. You will be able to run...
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Re: Lionel tubular turnouts/switches O72

MichiganDiesel ·
PCR, Thank You for the reply. I was worried I would have to switch away from the tubular. I don’t want a layout of tubular andanotjer brand since this will be a semi permanent layout. Guess I’ll tear into them this weekend. Might be time to invest in a newer track system like atlas since their switches have tmcc in them I think. I wanted fasttrack at first until I saw it in operation. Looks kind of cheesy
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Re: O72 Switch Tracks

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Dan Padova, I believe you are talking about the original post war Lionel Conventional Tubular. In reality there are three versions of the the Lionel conventional Tubular 072 Switches, the early 711- 072 Switches were the very best, built for Tin Plate Trains, Pre-War. The post war 072's were very good, and the modern Lionel 072 versions are nothing but trouble. Further the original K-Line Super Snap 072's were the very best low voltage 072 ever made, the RMT version of these K-Line Switches...
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Re: O72 Switch Tracks

Dan Padova ·
Thanks Dave. I knew about the original pre-war O72 switches and the post war version. I thought that Lionel had made two new versions after about 1990.
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Re: O72 Switch Tracks

Dan65train ·
Dan, They were #5165, 5166 made 1987-89 and 65165, 65166 made thru the 90's. I'm also interested in which are better. If I recall, one had to have the track shimmed because the switch was slightly higher. I'm not positive.
 
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