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Bldg first permanent layout. How To Wire DCS.

paul4653 ·
First permanent Layout. There will be 3 loops - each 80 feet long and all connect by crossovers. I am using GarGraves track and switches. Now how do I wire the DCS system???  Unable to locate "how to" information to get started and do it right on...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Prospector ·
Manual switches are cheaper but it is still a lot of coin flowing out at one time for only being used for a short time during the year. I had trouble justifying the expense with my wife. Also, I got kicked out from under the tree but we have a spare room for storage and kids' use in the basement I got permission to take over so that worked to my benefit. In a previous year, got a couple of folding picnic tables and kicked the car out of the garage for a month. Like you I was looking to do...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Moonman ·
Alex(prospector), That's a very nice and interesting variation of the figure 8 into an over/under. Everyone likes bridges and tunnels. A requisite on a layout.
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Re: Bldg first permanent layout. How To Wire DCS.

John H ·
Get Barry's book. That is the best suggestion you are going to get, and not just from me.
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PJB ·
Originally Posted by paul4653: First permanent Layout. There will be 3 loops - each 80 feet long and all connect by crossovers. I am using GarGraves track and switches. Now how do I wire the DCS system??? Unable to locate "how to" information to get started and do it right on the first time. Sure appreciate all of your suggestions, photos, videos or websites to teach me how. Definitely get Barry Browkowitz's book. It was incredibly helpful to me in wiring my first layout (I'm virtually done...
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rtr12 ·
Get the DCS O Gauge Companion (Barry's book). Everything you need to know is in there, with diagrams, sections of track per block, etc. I would also recommend using MTH terminal blocks and OGR wire, #14 to terminal blocks and #16 from term block to track feeders.
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Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Hi there - My son wants something more interesting in our layout.  We had the basic Polar Express O Gauge tracks, then last year added the Figure 8 layout pack. Here is what we have now: Item Quantity Lionel O 6-12015 FasTrack O36 Full Curve Track 12 Lionel O 6-12014 FasTrack 10" Straight Track 4 Lionel O 6-12024 FasTrack 5" Half Straight Track 4 Lionel O 6-12019 FasTrack 90 Degree Crossover Track 1 What is the next small to medium sized upgrade/addition of tracks we could add?  My...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

steam rules ·
For me, simplest quick excitement upgrade SWITCHES! they really add to the complexity of running trains, which adds to the interest. One or two straight tracks for a siding where extra rolling stock can be stored waiting for pick-up, or a curve or two for a passing siding. Two switches will connect the two loops of a figure eight which changes the train's direction of travel without increasing the size of the current layout. Steam rules "a country boy can survive!" (Bocephus, 1981)
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Zep ·
The Lionel trestle is a pain to assemble, and feels less than solid on carpet. Once it's all together it works fairly well. MTH makes a fasttrack trestle with stone supports that I like much more. Another low cost option is using pink or blue foam to create inclines etc. Lots of info on that if you do a search. I would search the forum for "twice around the tree". It's a great Christmas layout that got me started in this whole wonderful mess, which now includes a scale Polar Express and...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Thanks, great idea. I was actually looking into these last night. But aren't switches like $50-80 *each*? Just seems crazy expensive - here I though the FasTrack was pricey enough as it is! We also have a few extra track pieces right now I think with the Figure 8 layout, so maybe I could even just buy 1 manual switch (so my 5 year old doesn't break the remote, etc.) and then just a bumper piece for the end? Where would I insert the switch in my current Figure 8 layout? Sorry I'm a newb.
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Thanks Zep, I have looked at that layout many times before. Last year I bought the Figure 8 because I got it for like $52 total on Amazon so seemed like a good deal. I like the other other gentleman's idea on adding a switch or two as well - I was considering that last night. I just googled 'foam lionel fastrack trestle' and didn't get any links - can you help?
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

El Classico ·
Try swapping to 042 curves and 027 profile track, lot more variaty that way.
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Hi there, I'm a "newb" - are you suggesting going to an old style track with a totally different radius? I think that's way out of my budget and I really prefer the FasTrack since we just run it on our carpet easily. Thank you for the reply!
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Pine Creek Railroad ·
ChristmasTrains, IMO it was the adding of switches, that expanded the growth and interest in my Train layout when I was a young boy. Today with FasTrack and the new Command Control Switches, that can be run from both the wired manual controller or the fantastic wireless TMCC/Legacy remote Control the FTCC Switches open up all kinds of new layout geometry and remote control running fun. IMO if you want to expand your sons interest in his Trains, the Legacy package with a couple Command...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

steam rules ·
to keep your layout with-in the size constraints you have, use a manual fastrack 036 switch (25 to 35 dollars used if you shop around). Replace a 036 curve from where ever in your layout keeps you with-in your space limitations, add a few straight or curves to obtain the desired siding configuration, presto - instant siding. if your layout is 4 x 8, a logical place would be to parallel the 8 ft side (either one or both sides). If you had two switches, you could potentially connect both loops...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

El Classico ·
It is highly inexpensive kamerade, to swap to tubular track. I would try the for sale section of the forum, throw out some want ads. You would be surprised by how little the stuff actually costs.
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Looking at switches, I'm not sure whether to go with the Remote or the Manual ones. I see complaints about both: that the Manual switch is harder for kids to align properly and could cause derailment; also, that the little level to switch it is fragile and breaks. For the Remote switches, I see complaints that it just doesn't work at times. ???
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Moonman ·
Not so on the switches. My 4 year old grandson could handle the manual switches from about 3. If they forget one, it's non-derail and the engine will push through. Look in the For Sale section of the forum or your local Craig'slist and see if you can up with a pair or maybe four. 036 manual. The red/green aspect does break off, he can still manage to turn it and check the points. They pick it up quickly. I am just too lazy to make some and glue them on.
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Zep ·
Sorry, meant search this site. "Foam riser", "pink foam carving" etc. Basically, I used 1"thick pink foam from home Depot, glued three together to make an approximately 3" s-shaped incline and cut it with a foam wire cutter from Michael's (art/craft store). Nothing hi tech or prototypical about it. Just fun. You can see the Lionel fastrack riser in the background that I used for the decline, but that's mainly because it was around. I wouldn't worry too much about switches, my son figured out...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Thanks Moonman. The manual ones are cheaper too. I've just posted in the WANTED forum asking to buy switches folks may not want anymore: https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...l-or-remote-switches
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

DMASSO ·
Over and under trestles, bridges and tunnels will had some interest.
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Thanks Don. We like the FasTrack because we can just put it on the carpet under the tree without a huge permanent plywood baseboard. We also run the track under our large wall cabinets/media center which is kind of cool and allows us flexibility. The Lionel trestle is $82 on Amazon and looks to have some poor reviews. Do you have more specifics?
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

ADCX Rob ·
Have you seen Three Times Around The Tree?
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

AtoZ Lewis ·
Hello, much like you, my world of trains started one year when I didn't put away the "around the tree" set that I had for years. I can tell you that the FasTrack manual switches are the right way to start. Mine have survived all three of my sons (and their friends) for 10 years now. Just like other have said, look in the forum here, look on eBay and don't forget the sponsors too. My journey started with converting my figure eight into two reversing loops. This allows for the train to run...
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K-Line 90 degree crossover

ken's trains ·
I just bought a K-line crossover (90 deg). I was planning to cut it down to fit in my layout. However, there are some strange things on the ends of each rail. It doesn't look as though cutting an end off would effect continuity, but I was wondering if anyone else had played with one of these. KeN
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Martin Derouin ·
They are there to just interlock with the next section so as to not come apart. If you are screwing your track down, you should not have a problem. Super O was like this only their ends were rounded. Marty
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Boilermaker1 ·
You can cut them off, the rails take regular O gauge track pins. You'll have to cut the super snap connectors off the mating track as well, if there are any.
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ken's trains ·
Marty & Sheldon,] Thank you very much for the info. Turns out that where I was planning to use this crossover won't work. I have an area where space is at a premium. I have a couple of lionel crossovers, they don't lend themselves to be easily trimmed; whereas the k-line does, so that's why I bought it. However, the trimming is only on the upper part of the vertical axis of the crossover (as shown in my lousy sketch). In addition, I need to join 2 lionel 022 switches as also shown on the...
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Re: K-Line 90 degree crossover

ken's trains ·
Hi Carl, Yes, that was my concern that the rail pieces would be so short that the pins would touch. Plus, there is no way to stabilize the pieces when I connect the 2 switches together (a very tight fit). Plus a lot of burr clean up on all the pieces. But I may give it a try. Actually last night I Dremel'd the heck out of a Lionel crossover. It looks kind of ugly, but works. I still may try your suggestion. Thanks, Ken
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Moonman ·
It looks to me like 1/2" pieces of rail are needed (.58) to fill the gaps. Almost like the pin tips will touch. It should be 4.25" from the end of the switch center rail to the center of the cross. Just cut some rail pieces.
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Moonman ·
Well, that's what I was thinking...the short pieces of rail would be supported by the pins. The K-Line would definitely look better. I hacked a 45 cross in O27 to run a big gear pre-war across. It looks like $#!+. Good luck, the corner crossover is cool on a layout.
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Moonman ·
Hey Ken, A FasTrack 90 with an 1 3/8 fits. You can make an end for pins by removing the blade connectors and cleaning the plastic out under the rail with a 7/64" drill bit. Then it joins like regular O tubular.
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ken's trains ·
Thanks Carl, By the way, after I modified the Lionel crossover, I had some spare rail sections. Sooooooo, I made the teenie-weenie little rail sections to add on to the K-Line crossover. They seem to work ok as long as I drive the pins well into the switches to leave room for the adjoining pins. And you're right, it does look better. Ken
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American Flyer Crossovers

Whiskey_Zulu ·
Hi I'm new to your forum and have a couple questions. 1) A few years back an individual was selling American Flyer style crossovers, not of the 90° variety, but I think, 30°, 45° and 60° configurations, looked very similar to the AF product. I bought one then and it has worked very well, and as the case happens sometimes, I find myself in need of 45° crossover that is compatible with AF sectional track. Anyone know if these are available anymore? 2) I need 2 or 3 pieces of K-Line 36"...
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NotInWI ·
WZ I have seen the fabricated Gilbert type crossovers you are talking about, but only on eBay. The 36" track should not be that hard to find, I see it fairly often at shows and online. I know Denny's Trains and Things in Oswego Illinois has some if you wanted to give a call. Ben
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Martin Derouin ·
I would be careful using Kline S gauge track, the track gauge is different from AF>>> Marty
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traindavid ·
It's not so much the gauge, but the way the rail is formed, the K-Line pins are slightly too large.
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traindavid ·
That's a shame. I wonder if his molds might be procured by someone else to continue the production?
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Ken Orlowski ·
I do not know of anyone that has taken over his production of the crossovers or that acquired any of his tooling.
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Ken Orlowski ·
The guy that was making those American Flyer crossovers in various crossover angles died about 6 months ago. He was from Rochester. Mi.
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Re: Atlas crossover center spacing question

PRR1950 ·
Instead of using a "curve" number switch (O54), try an angle numbered Atlas switch like the #5. Using two of them in a crossover produces almost exactly a 4.5" center spread. (I believe the exact spread is 4.52", but what's a couple of hundredths of an inch between friends?) Chuck
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Atlas crossover center spacing question

Rob W. ·
Ok, so what I'm doing is designing a layout with an inside O-36 loop and an outside O-45 loop in Anyrail 6. The spacing between center lines on these loops comes out to 4.5 inches. None of the Atlas turnouts come out to this center spacing when put together as a crossover. Has anybody put a crossover between these two? The closest I can come is 2 O-54 turnouts, and I'll have to cut a custom piece about 1 inch long to come up with a correct center spacing. Is that the best I can do, or does...
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Re: Atlas crossover center spacing question

Rob W. ·
Thanks, the software I am using doesn't show those are available, guess it hasn't been updated!
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Mike CT ·
Atlas part 6057 from their website. Another section of the layout. Switch motors can be positioned (4) different ways. Midwest cork was used under the track. After many years this is what's left. I made every attempt to use all of the track I purchased.
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Re: Atlas crossover center spacing question

Mike CT ·
The O54's are a good fit at the 4.5" C to C track spacing. Eventually you will need to do some custom fitting. Atlas has track end pieces that can be used to alter standard pieces as needed. Similar to lower left in this picture. The track can be cut carefully with a 32 tooth per inch hacksaw or a Dremel tool with a cut off blade, which requires eye protection. I eventually tweaked the ends with a bench disk sander. The Atlas plastic end pieces, (6057), will slide on the ends of the cut...
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Re: Atlas crossover center spacing question

Steve Horvath ·
Rob, With the standard drop in switch track 036/045/054 you are correct the closest you will get would be using the 054 turnouts. I made a quick design using the pieces you would need to get the best fit without making custom cuts. There is a mix of smaller standard straight pieces in the design, 6015, 6052, 6053. Although there is a slight misalignment in several joints when you connect it all together it will not be noticeable. Steve H
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Re: American Flyer Crossovers

traindavid ·
That's true, but it doesn't match up well with a traditional track layout. These "custom" crossovers looked like ACG's design, and the guy had apparently worked out the problem of power interruption in the crossing--The ACG ones were only 90 degrees because that's provided the shortest distance of power interruption, so that one wheel would always be on a conducting rail. If anyone has his name/address maybe one of could contact the relatives to see if the tooling still exists and might be...
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kb0fhp ·
There are various crossings and wyes made by fasttracks as a kit
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Re: American Flyer Crossovers

Ken Orlowski ·
As far as I know, the wife of the person who was making the crossovers gave his entire collection to an auction house last October. The auction facility was somewhere in Pa. The wife said they took everything she had related to his train collection. I don't know if the auction has taken place, but I would assume it has.
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Mikeaa ·
http://www.stoutauctions.com/info.html is located in PA and specializes in trains.
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