Tagged With "crossover"

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Kadee body mount couplers & #4 turnout question

MI-Marc ·
Does anyone using Kadee body mount couplers on rolling stock have problems using #4 turnouts as crossovers or in yards? I am working on my 3-rail layout plans with RR-Track to use only Ross turnouts. I am planning to use Ross #4 crossovers (RCS model #175) on the mainline and Ross #4 turnouts (RCS model #200 & #201) in the yards, which will create my only "S" curves. I will use some Ross O72 turnouts, but not as "S" curves. My minimum radius is 36" (O72). Ultimately, I would like to...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Prospector ·
Manual switches are cheaper but it is still a lot of coin flowing out at one time for only being used for a short time during the year. I had trouble justifying the expense with my wife. Also, I got kicked out from under the tree but we have a spare room for storage and kids' use in the basement I got permission to take over so that worked to my benefit. In a previous year, got a couple of folding picnic tables and kicked the car out of the garage for a month. Like you I was looking to do...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Moonman ·
Alex(prospector), That's a very nice and interesting variation of the figure 8 into an over/under. Everyone likes bridges and tunnels. A requisite on a layout.
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

DMASSO ·
Over and under trestles, bridges and tunnels will had some interest.
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Thanks Don. We like the FasTrack because we can just put it on the carpet under the tree without a huge permanent plywood baseboard. We also run the track under our large wall cabinets/media center which is kind of cool and allows us flexibility. The Lionel trestle is $82 on Amazon and looks to have some poor reviews. Do you have more specifics?
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

steam rules ·
For me, simplest quick excitement upgrade SWITCHES! they really add to the complexity of running trains, which adds to the interest. One or two straight tracks for a siding where extra rolling stock can be stored waiting for pick-up, or a curve or two for a passing siding. Two switches will connect the two loops of a figure eight which changes the train's direction of travel without increasing the size of the current layout. Steam rules "a country boy can survive!" (Bocephus, 1981)
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Zep ·
The Lionel trestle is a pain to assemble, and feels less than solid on carpet. Once it's all together it works fairly well. MTH makes a fasttrack trestle with stone supports that I like much more. Another low cost option is using pink or blue foam to create inclines etc. Lots of info on that if you do a search. I would search the forum for "twice around the tree". It's a great Christmas layout that got me started in this whole wonderful mess, which now includes a scale Polar Express and...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Thanks, great idea. I was actually looking into these last night. But aren't switches like $50-80 *each*? Just seems crazy expensive - here I though the FasTrack was pricey enough as it is! We also have a few extra track pieces right now I think with the Figure 8 layout, so maybe I could even just buy 1 manual switch (so my 5 year old doesn't break the remote, etc.) and then just a bumper piece for the end? Where would I insert the switch in my current Figure 8 layout? Sorry I'm a newb.
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Thanks Zep, I have looked at that layout many times before. Last year I bought the Figure 8 because I got it for like $52 total on Amazon so seemed like a good deal. I like the other other gentleman's idea on adding a switch or two as well - I was considering that last night. I just googled 'foam lionel fastrack trestle' and didn't get any links - can you help?
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

El Classico ·
Try swapping to 042 curves and 027 profile track, lot more variaty that way.
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Hi there, I'm a "newb" - are you suggesting going to an old style track with a totally different radius? I think that's way out of my budget and I really prefer the FasTrack since we just run it on our carpet easily. Thank you for the reply!
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Pine Creek Railroad ·
ChristmasTrains, IMO it was the adding of switches, that expanded the growth and interest in my Train layout when I was a young boy. Today with FasTrack and the new Command Control Switches, that can be run from both the wired manual controller or the fantastic wireless TMCC/Legacy remote Control the FTCC Switches open up all kinds of new layout geometry and remote control running fun. IMO if you want to expand your sons interest in his Trains, the Legacy package with a couple Command...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

steam rules ·
to keep your layout with-in the size constraints you have, use a manual fastrack 036 switch (25 to 35 dollars used if you shop around). Replace a 036 curve from where ever in your layout keeps you with-in your space limitations, add a few straight or curves to obtain the desired siding configuration, presto - instant siding. if your layout is 4 x 8, a logical place would be to parallel the 8 ft side (either one or both sides). If you had two switches, you could potentially connect both loops...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

El Classico ·
It is highly inexpensive kamerade, to swap to tubular track. I would try the for sale section of the forum, throw out some want ads. You would be surprised by how little the stuff actually costs.
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Looking at switches, I'm not sure whether to go with the Remote or the Manual ones. I see complaints about both: that the Manual switch is harder for kids to align properly and could cause derailment; also, that the little level to switch it is fragile and breaks. For the Remote switches, I see complaints that it just doesn't work at times. ???
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Moonman ·
Not so on the switches. My 4 year old grandson could handle the manual switches from about 3. If they forget one, it's non-derail and the engine will push through. Look in the For Sale section of the forum or your local Craig'slist and see if you can up with a pair or maybe four. 036 manual. The red/green aspect does break off, he can still manage to turn it and check the points. They pick it up quickly. I am just too lazy to make some and glue them on.
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Zep ·
Sorry, meant search this site. "Foam riser", "pink foam carving" etc. Basically, I used 1"thick pink foam from home Depot, glued three together to make an approximately 3" s-shaped incline and cut it with a foam wire cutter from Michael's (art/craft store). Nothing hi tech or prototypical about it. Just fun. You can see the Lionel fastrack riser in the background that I used for the decline, but that's mainly because it was around. I wouldn't worry too much about switches, my son figured out...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Thanks Moonman. The manual ones are cheaper too. I've just posted in the WANTED forum asking to buy switches folks may not want anymore: https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...l-or-remote-switches
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

ADCX Rob ·
Have you seen Three Times Around The Tree?
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

AtoZ Lewis ·
Hello, much like you, my world of trains started one year when I didn't put away the "around the tree" set that I had for years. I can tell you that the FasTrack manual switches are the right way to start. Mine have survived all three of my sons (and their friends) for 10 years now. Just like other have said, look in the forum here, look on eBay and don't forget the sponsors too. My journey started with converting my figure eight into two reversing loops. This allows for the train to run...
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Insulating a double crossover

C.J. ·
I am building a double crossover out of gargraves track and switches. Where should I put insulation pins? I am wanting to run a double loop with the crossover, one power source with TMCC. Any help would be great. Thanks!
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Lionel 90 degree crossover, cutting metal strip to allow 2 different loops to run thru it.

Lary ·
Lionel tubular track and crossover all Lionel. This 90 degree has been on this layout for about 35 years and I really don't want to pull it up and mess up the scenery around it and especially the 2 Lionel switch tracks it is joining to. Question is: Can I cut the plastic out of the area marked in yellow to allow me to cut the metal strip or at least place a piece of cardboard under it to separate the center rail connections (from a post in Dec 2016)? I then would reinsert the cutout piece...
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K-Line 90 degree crossover

ken's trains ·
I just bought a K-line crossover (90 deg). I was planning to cut it down to fit in my layout. However, there are some strange things on the ends of each rail. It doesn't look as though cutting an end off would effect continuity, but I was wondering if anyone else had played with one of these. KeN
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Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

christmastrains ·
Hi there - My son wants something more interesting in our layout.  We had the basic Polar Express O Gauge tracks, then last year added the Figure 8 layout pack. Here is what we have now: Item Quantity Lionel O 6-12015 FasTrack O36 Full Curve Track 12 Lionel O 6-12014 FasTrack 10" Straight Track 4 Lionel O 6-12024 FasTrack 5" Half Straight Track 4 Lionel O 6-12019 FasTrack 90 Degree Crossover Track 1 What is the next small to medium sized upgrade/addition of tracks we could add?  My...
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Atlas crossover center spacing question

Rob W. ·
Ok, so what I'm doing is designing a layout with an inside O-36 loop and an outside O-45 loop in Anyrail 6. The spacing between center lines on these loops comes out to 4.5 inches. None of the Atlas turnouts come out to this center spacing when put together as a crossover. Has anybody put a crossover between these two? The closest I can come is 2 O-54 turnouts, and I'll have to cut a custom piece about 1 inch long to come up with a correct center spacing. Is that the best I can do, or does...
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American Flyer Crossovers

Whiskey_Zulu ·
Hi I'm new to your forum and have a couple questions. 1) A few years back an individual was selling American Flyer style crossovers, not of the 90° variety, but I think, 30°, 45° and 60° configurations, looked very similar to the AF product. I bought one then and it has worked very well, and as the case happens sometimes, I find myself in need of 45° crossover that is compatible with AF sectional track. Anyone know if these are available anymore? 2) I need 2 or 3 pieces of K-Line 36"...
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New member checking in

CoastsideKevin ·
Hi everyone! Just got my postwar collection out of mothballs after 30 years in storage. I caught the bug and have started building a layout in the attic. My father, who is now 90, recently spent a week cramped in the attic with me helping me lay track. It is the father-son project we didn't finish in 1985 and I'm grateful we are finally The layout is a dog bone, 40' x 9', with two loops and a switch yard, and with the main line elevating 5" to clear a floor joist at both ends. It is still a...
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Ross Double crossover switch

Missabe ·
Wired the double crossover switch and all 4 switches worked fine. Then did a test run with an engine. Engine died on the isolated crossover. My understanding that the crossover is supposed to remain isolated. I don't see anywhere to add separate power source. Can the regular track power be used? I could add the Atlas O power clips to all 4 tracks from the for different blocks or runs? I also didn't see any grey wire. My understanding the double crossover came with everything needed to run.
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ROSS #175 Double Crossover & Gargraves Straghts

kennyb ·
Hello! I am looking for a ROSS#175 Double Crossover in any operating condition. I know it's a long shot,but I have found other things here I never thought I would have. If you happen to have one to sell,e-mail me with your asking price,e-mail is in my profile. I am also looking for 10 or more pcs. of Gargraves Wooden Tie Long Straight Pieces. Can be old flex track,just so they are not bent beyond repair. Thank You Very Much.-Kenny
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22.5* crossover

rrman ·
I have an old Lionel 22.5* tinplate crossover on my layout. Unfortunately the outside rails are attached to a steel base making it unusable in my signal system, ie train wheels have to short the outside rails to give a signal occupancy indication, but the steel base of course defeats this. Ross makes a 22.5* crossover but its not tinplate, though I understand there maybe Ross track to O gauge adapter pins available. The Ross site does not show how its crossover outside rails are connected...
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Easy way to align junctions in SCARM?

Ted S ·
I've been doing a lot of layout design with SCARM, and in general I like the program. But @Mixy, one issue that I'm struggling with, is adding junctions to an existing layout. For example, here's the first version of my layout: ...and here's the second version with another crossover added: The only way I know of to locate the outer curve and the 2nd switch in the lower RH corner is as follows: (1) Add "dummy" straight track to identify the point of intersection; (2)...
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Wiring opposing DZ1000 motors

rrman ·
I have a siding with left and right hand turnouts controlled by DZ1000 motors. I know that you cannot connect one motor's L terminal to the other motor's R terminal, and vice versa, due to the way the DZ1000 internal wiring and motor polarities conflict. As an aside, for my X crossover used a pair of relays to isolate the four motors so that the respective "conflicting" crossover motor pair would operate without problems when the derail was activated or the remote gave the command. I haven't...
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Bldg first permanent layout. How To Wire DCS.

paul4653 ·
First permanent Layout. There will be 3 loops - each 80 feet long and all connect by crossovers. I am using GarGraves track and switches. Now how do I wire the DCS system???  Unable to locate "how to" information to get started and do it right on...
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Re: Ross Double crossover switch

AGHRMatt ·
One thought I had that didn't die of loneliness is the closure rails that form the two isolated triangles off the diamond. Those probably need to be tied to common as some MTH 3-2 steam locomotives could lose the common connection while traversing the section (one side of the locomotive is grounded and one side of the tender is grounded).
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Re: Ross Double crossover switch

Bob ·
If the inside of the crossover diamond is metal, there should be a screw on the underside. You are supposed to attach a center rail power wire to the diamond using this screw. Did you do that?
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Re: Ross Double crossover switch

Ted S ·
Maybe slightly off-topic, but @AGHRMatt on an MTH Proto 3-2 loco: if you set the switch to the 3-rail position, doesn't that connect the grounds internally? Is there any way to ground the driving wheels of a steam loco so equipped, or are they doomed to "float" in isolation for all time?
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Re: Ross Double crossover switch

AGHRMatt ·
Not on steam. The wheels remain isolated; the hot switches from the right to the center. We tried de-isolating a tender by reversing some of the wheels and it wasn't really effective.
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Re: Ross Double crossover switch

AlanRail ·
even Ross-Ready switches need to be powered at points and wired for non-derailing. you need the relay to even with the DZ-2500Cs i believe my DBC has two relays.
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Re: Ross Double crossover switch

Missabe ·
Bob Bartizek, It does have a metal screw. I assume of the 4 rails the center rail which is always powered would do. Or should the other 3 all should be attached. I will still need the DZ1008 or DZ1000 correct.
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Re: Wiring opposing DZ1000 motors

rrman ·
All my turnouts are DZ1000 controlled. I have had so-so results. If they came from a good lot, they worked great. Others I have sent back for supposedly better designed cams. Sometimes I just swapped motors with other turnouts and the cranky one suddenly works OK, not sure why, maybe alignment, point tightness, screw tightness, phase of the moon.
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Re: Wiring opposing DZ1000 motors

rtr12 ·
What voltage are you using on your DZ1000s? If not at 18 volts maybe upping it a little would help? Mine is connected to 18 volts with all my Atlas switch machines, same power source, so far so good after over 6 years. I think the ZStuff website may say 14 volts, but as I recall my instruction sheet with the DZ1000 said like 12 or 14-18 volts. Then it seems like I saw some conflicting info after I got it and was wiring it up? Guess they could have also changed something since mine was made?
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Re: Wiring opposing DZ1000 motors

rrman ·
I use a separate supply and adjusted it so every motor would run reliably. Think its at 15 volts. Those motors are small no sense smoking them with higher voltages.
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Re: Wiring opposing DZ1000 motors

rtr12 ·
Mine has been fine at 18 volts, but I only have one of them. If it goes down (or is that up?) in flames, it's only one to replace. Not like having an entire layout full of them at stake.
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Re: Bldg first permanent layout. How To Wire DCS.

John H ·
Get Barry's book. That is the best suggestion you are going to get, and not just from me.
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Re: Bldg first permanent layout. How To Wire DCS.

PJB ·
Originally Posted by paul4653: First permanent Layout. There will be 3 loops - each 80 feet long and all connect by crossovers. I am using GarGraves track and switches. Now how do I wire the DCS system??? Unable to locate "how to" information to get started and do it right on the first time. Sure appreciate all of your suggestions, photos, videos or websites to teach me how. Definitely get Barry Browkowitz's book. It was incredibly helpful to me in wiring my first layout (I'm virtually done...
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Re: Bldg first permanent layout. How To Wire DCS.

rtr12 ·
Get the DCS O Gauge Companion (Barry's book). Everything you need to know is in there, with diagrams, sections of track per block, etc. I would also recommend using MTH terminal blocks and OGR wire, #14 to terminal blocks and #16 from term block to track feeders.
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Re: Wiring opposing DZ1000 motors

rtr12 ·
I have Atlas track, switches and switch machines. The switch machines are momentary, twin coil, snap acting and can be used with capacitor discharge activation. You can wire two of them together to work opposing switches for a cross-over by just swapping the straight/diverging wires. I have had good luck with them, no problems so far. Others have reported not doing so well with theirs. I do have one DZ1000 and I really like that one too. I had to use it where one of the Atlas switch machines...
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Re: New member checking in

Seth Thomas ·
The golden spike pose. One of those opportunity photo times. I've been there. I actually looked 360 degrees for someone to share the joy! I appreciate you sharing your photos from across the this continent Kevin! I think this technology is so 😎cool! John d. In east Kentucky
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harmonyards ·
Kevin, got big grades? good reason to buy more 2023 power units! lash them up and fight that grade head on!!!!!!…………………….Pat
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Re: New member checking in

eddie g ·
Welcome to the forum Kevin. I am 88 and I am still running trains. Unusual to see someone on the west coast running a GG1. You must have been originally from the east coast, or am I wrong? The GG1 is my favorite engine.
 
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