hello, need help. My F/C northern stopped smoking and running. The loco will work and run when the smoke switch is switched to NO smoke. It will run in Conv and remote all sounds work when the smoke switch is set NO smoke. But, when it is switched to smoke the loco is dead only the head light is on. So is the smoke unit bad? If so how or why does it keep the engine from running? If you have had this problem let me know. I'll call Lionel to see what I need to do to get a new smoke unit. Thank...
I would use the MTH smoke fluid, it's what your engine came with. About filling the engine with smoke fluid, add about 6 drops. Never completely fill the smoke unit as it may spit or pop fluid out. Lee Fritz
If its a twin stack diesel those can have problems usually related to the oil not wanting to get into the smoke chamber via the plastic manifold that connects the smoke chamber to the stacks. If you search the forum there are lots of threads on different tricks that can help. My approach is to remove the shell, make sure the wick is arranged right around the resistor then add smoke directly to the chamber. Not for everybody but I've cured several engines of no smoke or weak smoke output in...
I agree with Scott regarding the plastic funnels making it difficult for the fluid to ever really reach the wick. It tends to adhere to various surfaces along the way. when possible, using a syringe to shoot the fluid directly into the batting is best.
Mike Reagan has a great tutorial on his YouTube channel on this. I find that adding One Full Dropper to fan driven units about five minutes after shutting down for the evening delivers best results. Jon ��
Yep, the Legacy 10-wheeler doesn't do idle smoke, that's one annoyance with mine as well. I've thought about replacing the fan controller with my Super-Chuffer to fix that, just haven't gotten around to it yet. This locomotive has an odd cobbled up bunch of custom boards, I think early on in the Legacy product line they didn't have things totally laying flat yet. I suspect the newer one that just came out has a different board and probably does the idle smoke properly.
I apologize for the wrong ID of a ten wheeler(4-6-0). I don't know what I was thinking-or was I thinking! I very much appreciate the information. A 2-6-0 is a mogul-I'm just trying to make myself feel better!!!! Oh well, no one is perfect. I have the new Lionel 6-82271 NYC 4-6-0 on it's way(there I got it right). I was planning on double heading the new one with the old one. It will be a bit weird, but placing the old one as the second engine will be a bit more prototypical. The NYC used...
Good Friday evening, I wanted to update this, and thank everybody who read and posted. I got my RS3 LC+ smoking again, but I did the "rob Peter pay Paul" thing by taking a smoke unit out of another LC+. It's all good, I don't run smoke on all my locos, just the RS3. One thing that is eluding me, is the screw driver required to open a smoke unit - what size is it and where can I obtain? My electronics screwdrivers, as Klein Tools calls them, are too big for that circuit board. Thanks again
One last comment on smoke units; I have had little luck with filling smoke units; I either over or under fill; I am the destructor of smoke units. I've tried adding fluid at the end of the day and wound up drowning the fans and sending back to Lionel for repair. Some say that there is also an evaporation factor if you do that.
Couple things... After a smoke unit has been without fluid it will usually take more than a few drops, say 10-15... If that doesn't work, are you adverse to taking the shell off?? Taking a look inside might be good.
Hey Jeff T, I did give that a go. Gave it a good dozen drops, and still no change. Ran it for a bit, forward/reverse, still nothing. I am not adverse to taking off the shell but where to from there? Thanks again.
Sometimes we tend to run the smoke units a little too dry. When you do the wick will get a good char and be unable to absorb the fluid. Carefully open up the smoke unit and see if the portion of the wick touching the resistor is charred. If you're unsure along the way post some pics, plenty of help here. I believe the manual will tell you what screws to remove to pop the shell.
I think I am on the trail! Even though I drained the smokestack before opening the RS3, I still had some smoke fluid to deal with once inside. Some of the drops though, are brown - I have never added anything that wasn't clear! I can't get the circuit board to remove from the motor unfortunately, 1 of the 3 screws is fighting me. I can see the resistor you spoke of through a opening in the circuit board. From what I can see it's all gunked up. Almost like ear wax (gross I know) but that's...
Okay, I cleaned it up pretty good. But the re-wicking procedure; I don't have a clue on how to do that. Also, all the gunk that I took out of there, was some of that the batting? I seen batting in the diagram you shot me.
Wick. You can reorder from Lionel or your local hobby shop. When I'm in a pinch I've used tiki torch wick. Pull off the plastic shield and fluff it up a bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkDlQ5Cwwlk&t=12s This video will show you a bit. just be sure not to block the opening from the bowl to the fan. You can also use a 9 volt battery, while the smoke unit is out of the engine, to test the fan.
Many you tube videos on how to re pack and replace resistor on Lionel smoke units.The parts are cheap I do all of my own and order by the dozen to have on hand.They need to be done on a regular basis.Nick
I finally inserted bridge rectifiers into my two conventional Lionel steam locomotives (starter set 0-8-0 and a 2002 4-4-2). Placed a single 4 amp rectifier in each locomotive, with rectifier in series between E-unit and motor. I used the methods mentioned by many of you...diagram available here: https://www.dallee.com/PDFs/MotorDiodeDrop.pdf The results: modest smoke increase in the 4-4-2, with noticeably slower, smoother startup. This locomotive has a Seuthe unit, so I'm still...
I am having problems on deciding on using mth protosmoke or mega smoke on my mth engines. I have a new mth long island alco diesel that smokes very lightly. After a while I find myself adding more fluid as the smoke seems to dwindle. Is this normal? I don't want to over fill the engine with fluid. I'm experiencing the same issue with a big boy ps1 steam engine as well. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
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