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Gentlemen,

I completed and ERR install (commander and GS4 sound unit) in an older Williams brass Daylight.  Everything went well.  It ran the layout for about 2 days.  Last night I needed to move it to a siding.  It ran about 20 feet on a straight away, stalled, ran a few feet more then stopped cold.  The Z4000 went red on a short.  I thought it might have been one of the passenger cars is was pulling.

I pulled each car, still in shorted.

I pulled the loco, not shorted (so not a track issue).

I pulled the tether from between the loco and placed only the loco on the tracks.  Headlight came on and No short.

I placed the tender only on the tracks.  No short

I placed them both on the tracks and reconnected the.  The short returned.

I pulled the tender shell.  Still shorted.

I pulled the sound board only.  Still shorted.

Seems like I have an issue within the commander board... if so, WHY?

Other than providing additional cuss words that I may not have covered last evening, Any ideas here???

Troy

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First of all, points for actually analyzing the problem.

I have only one thought. I have done a couple of dozen ERR (including a couple of old Train America) upgrades, so I am not an expert, but I'm familiar. On some occasions I had to be careful to not mount the board in such a way that the "backside" solder joints could not ease into the brass (or steel or zinc) frame of the tender during use and vibration.

I don't know if this is relevant at all. Typically I will cement a piece of card stock or the like between the board's underside and the metal frame/body if clearance seems close. If the board needs support to reduce jiggle, I'll glue a bit of balsa under it as a support leg.

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