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paul 2 posted:

TED, thanks for the info and video. I was not totally sure about contact cement but figured it had to contain petroleum. THADDEUS, thanks for those suggestions too. I have niether  I have Elmer's white glue so I am going to try that........Paul

Paul, just checked again, and there is NO melting on the commercial foam portal after half an hour, but the cement seemed to soak in, cause it wasn’t tacky.  FWIW...

TEDW, even though it did not look like any bad reaction happened I went with the white glue. I put two beads down and press the paper. Any excess glue I wiped away. As I did it I noticed the paper was curling up on the ends so I flipped over the sections and put some light weight on top. I think it is going to work. Guess I was leery about losing walls. Later this afternoon I'll check on the drying. Guys thanks for the help. It pays to ask. Saves problems later on. I think I will do what TRUMPTRAIN did and go run trains for a bit to relax. ELLIOT, good to see your continuing posts. Really starting to look gosh darn good .................Paul

briansilvermustang posted:

 

                                some more painting and cleaning.......

                     got the garage door repainted, a big difference from this.......

I am thinking this will be a static narrow gauge log line, good spot to park a shay and some log cars.....

       yes, I think a on30 shay and some logging cars would look a lot better here....   trains will be running soon, hopefully by next weekend....

 

Looks good Brian.  Does the trestle and the bump pop out to get at the breaker box?  Is that trestle track hot or just for parking?  Nice start on the scenery.  Start looking for trees.

paul 2 posted:

I decided to add some wood between the posts to give the walls more places for glue and stability. I had a piece of embossed paper that looks like stone. I cut it into strips to glue on the back of the flex walls because there is no brick pattern on the back. I want to glue the paper on with Weldwood contact cement. But am asking here if this will attack the foam of the flex walls. I want to add this to the back because the walls will be sticking up about a 1/2 inch above the sidewalks. Any help appreciated. For the time being I am going to work on something else till I find out if the contact cement is safe to use. Thanks Paul........Pics

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 I very much doubt that is foam safe. It is great for laminates and layers of similar hard materials, but very volatile in general.

I don't think traditional rubber cement would work out either.

   They make foam safe adhesive in caulk tubes, available in big box store paint sections.

You could adhere the paper to thick contruction paper or thin, raw art board (shoebox thick cardboard) with rubber cement, then attach the board with the much thicker foam adheasive to keep things smooth and flat. This would allow for some toe nailed divits in the foam for a better bond too.

Rubber cement is an old school printers staple. It works excellent for paper and thinly appied, doesn't shrink and pull paper causing warp (roller burnishing the excess out). Just keep it off inks to be safe, but most are fine with it IME,, The excess dries fast and rubbing the drying excess will ball it up to be brushed away, leaving a very clean edge if done with care. At times, more excess actually helps leave a cleaner edge and surface sometimes; like a wet eraser to clean with.

Brian, I don't know where you get the energy to do all the work you do in one day! It all looks great and sounds like you have quite a bit of more on your plate! I will be watching as I learn from most of you here.

Paul, looks like your on the right track! I hope things hold together for you and your happy with the out come!

As for me there were no train stuff today! I spent the day with my very new GRANDDAUGHTER! what a little thing but has a great smile!20171015_10360220171015_103613

 

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Mark Boyce posted:

Mike, Congratulations on the new granddaughter!!  Do you have other grandchildren besides those three?

 

Thanks Mark, she is a beautiful young lady! This is number 4, and they say the last one. LOL Of course that's what they said after number 3. Then we have to see what happens with the son when and if he ever gets married!

I've finally added a river bottom to my layout!  Anyone who's seen my layout (see link to my Harpers Ferry layout) has noticed that I had a 4' gap representing the Potomac River.  RR bridges were suspended on planks of wood.   Well now there is a solid platform for bridge supports.  Next I plan to get a sheet of Aquatex cut to fit to model the actual river.  River banks will be made of cut foam to fill gaps between river and table top.  I'm considering putting the river bottom 'sub table' on wheels so I can slide it out if I need access to back of layout.IMG_1380[1]IMG_1379[1]IMG_1382[1]IMG_1383[1]

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mike g. posted:

Brian, I don't know where you get the energy to do all the work you do in one day! It all looks great and sounds like you have quite a bit of more on your plate! I will be watching as I learn from most of you here.

Paul, looks like your on the right track! I hope things hold together for you and your happy with the out come!

As for me there were no train stuff today! I spent the day with my very new GRANDDAUGHTER! what a little thing but has a great smile!20171015_10360220171015_103613

 

Congrats Mike! More future O gauge modelers!

Bob

   Dad is home    a little tired and sore   He gave me his 1st train request for       when he is able to come over, a n&w y6b steamer with long coal hopper train !

I will have one of these y6b's ready for him with 50 N&W hoppers ready for him

                   can't wait till he can come over and run some trains !!!!!

                            going home from work now and getting busy.....

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Mark Boyce posted:

Yes, I recall your Harpers Ferry layout.  The platform for the river looks great.  Since it is a separate piece of bench work, I agree making it roll out would be pretty easy to do.  How much more access would that give you?

Before I put in the river floor I could climb under and come up between B&O double main line bridge along wall and Shenandoah sub truss bridge.   My plan for future access is to suspend the supports for the B&O bridge from the existing wood plank support.   Those supports will simply rest on top of the Aquatex river surface.   The supports for the Shenandoah and Bollman Truss (silver) bridge may 'slide' on surface of river when I slowly pull river bed table out.  This means that I will not glue or attach supports or scenery to river.  For now I'll just be glad to get the aquatex installed.   Will post progress pics.

Had to start the day getting the car ready for York but I did manage to find a bit of time to work on the layout, a little not much. I finished gluing the stone paper to the backs of all the walls. So far Elmer's white glue is holding firm. I had some prairie grass left so I added some near the Morton Salt building. Probably will not do too much more tonight and for that matter tomorrow because we will be heading for York Wednesday morning. Got my list of wants ready to go but I always seem to find more stuff off my list then on LOL.............Paul 

RSJB18 posted:
mike g. posted:

Brian, I don't know where you get the energy to do all the work you do in one day! It all looks great and sounds like you have quite a bit of more on your plate! I will be watching as I learn from most of you here.

Paul, looks like your on the right track! I hope things hold together for you and your happy with the out come!

As for me there were no train stuff today! I spent the day with my very new GRANDDAUGHTER! what a little thing but has a great smile!20171015_10360220171015_103613

 

Congrats Mike! More future O gauge modelers!

Bob

That's for sure Bob, I have 3 on the hook already! The one problem I have is I don't have a lap big enough for them all and that's where they all want to sit! LOL

paul 2 posted:

Had to start the day getting the car ready for York but I did manage to find a bit of time to work on the layout, a little not much. I finished gluing the stone paper to the backs of all the walls. So far Elmer's white glue is holding firm. I had some prairie grass left so I added some near the Morton Salt building. Probably will not do too much more tonight and for that matter tomorrow because we will be heading for York Wednesday morning. Got my list of wants ready to go but I always seem to find more stuff off my list then on LOL.............Paul 

Come on Paul, spend a boat load at York! I am sure dad will back you with whatever you need there! If not you can always as Playtrains for a loan! LOL I sure hope you have a great time there!

paul 2 posted:

Had to start the day getting the car ready for York but I did manage to find a bit of time to work on the layout, a little not much. I finished gluing the stone paper to the backs of all the walls. So far Elmer's white glue is holding firm. I had some prairie grass left so I added some near the Morton Salt building. Probably will not do too much more tonight and for that matter tomorrow because we will be heading for York Wednesday morning. Got my list of wants ready to go but I always seem to find more stuff off my list then on LOL.............Paul 

Paul,

Have a great time at York!  Look for me, since I don't know what you look like.  

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