I'm looking for a loco suitable for bashing into a specific prototype, a 4-4-0 of 1880s vintage with wagon-top boiler. Driver diameter around 62". I know of the Rivarossi Genoa, which is a little too small, and the MTH 4-4-0s which are too large. Has anything in between ever been produced?
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There was an outfit that made 1880s kits. I think Carey has a couple. "Western" sticks in my mind, but not sure. Thomas may have produced one as well.
I thought Lionel was bringing one in - brass and die cast?
Thomas Industries made 4-4-0's, but they're probably too rare and expensive for kitbashing. Plus, I don't know if they were ever made in 2 rail. I just measured the drivers on mine - 72", so too big for your purposes.
But 49 is looking for small drivers. Also he didn’t specify a budget.
If it were me, I would start from scratch. Wagontop boilers are difficult, but not impossible. Start with a brass sink tail pipe.
Ah me. Well bob2, it just goes to show - sometimes you shouldn't read and try to respond to things first thing in the morning - I thought the initial post said 72 - not 62... ...and I agree - I think a scratch build would be the better choice.
That's as I suspected - going to have to try my hand at a scratch build. I admit a wagon-top boiler does scare me a bit, but that's what trial and error is for! Thanks to everyone for the responses.
That one looks really nice. I hadn't ever seen them in two rail before, nice to know they exist.
I bet the Lobaugh B&M 4-4-0 would fix you up. It came with 65” drivers usually, but other sizes work. I “SP’d” mine, but you can see the boiler shape. These are not uncommon - a really nice one will bring $300.
A nice 1900 version is the All Nation.
Nice job with the Thomas B&M one. Bob, I like that Lobaugh, although its dimensions look a little too husky for me. Those last photos show the size difference between early and late 4-4-0s - amazing! And those new Lionels look beautiful.
I also saw once how somebody cut down a Rivarossi 4-6-0 into a 4-4-0, and I think those drivers are the right size. That could be an inexpensive way to get started.
I wish I could post a prototype photo, but I don't want to run afoul of any forum rules. We're talking the kind of stock 4-4-0 that all the railroads had in the 1880s.