Charles Ro and Lionel have released the 2020 volume 2 catalog. Yes there is a little Flyer starting on page 82.
Link - http://catalogs.lionel.com/2020/C2/#
Have fun.... Opinions??
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Charles Ro and Lionel have released the 2020 volume 2 catalog. Yes there is a little Flyer starting on page 82.
Link - http://catalogs.lionel.com/2020/C2/#
Have fun.... Opinions??
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Zzzzzz....
Rusty
The flat car says it all . . .depressed
Brendan
No new Legacy products = no interest from me
(not that I expected any)
Not a thing I want
Nothing earth shaking
@Rusty Traque posted:Zzzzzz....
Rusty
@Brendan posted:The flat car says it all . . .depressed
Brendan
@Chuck K posted:No new Legacy products = no interest from me
(not that I expected any)
@gunny posted:Not a thing I want
@Doug-Sr posted:Nothing earth shaking
Boy oh boy oh boy, what more could l add.
Ray
On a positive note at least the minimum curve shows R20 instead of the nonexistent S36.
@Rayin"S" posted:Boy oh boy oh boy, what more could l add.
Ray
A great cure for insomnia. And, the Legacy Berk is MIA.
Bob
As someone who has been slowly getting back into "S" (in addition to my O Gauge stuff), I like the offerings here.
I'll be in for the Airforce set, The B&O Baldwin, a couple box cars, and a couple pipe load cars. Maybe even the Batman search light. All look fun to me
The Legacy Berk is in production so no reason to list it.
I'm with EscapeRocks. There are several offerings in terms of rolling stock and one of the Baldwins that I will order.
Still anxiously awaiting the new Legacy Berks, of course. Roundhouse Bill is correct about why they are not listed in this catalog
Ed Boyle
@Ed Boyle posted:<snip>
Still anxiously awaiting the new Legacy Berks, of course. Roundhouse Bill is correct about why they are not listed in this catalog
Ed Boyle
Well, let's hope so for those who preordered.
Bob
@Bob Bubeck posted:Well, let's hope so for those who preordered.
Bob
Production sample parts were shown here. Scroll down four posts.
Rusty
@Rusty Traque posted:Production sample parts were shown here. Scroll down four posts.
Rusty
Yes. We have all seen those. However, what one hopes to see in the near future is a fully finished model assembled with good QC that runs well and sounds good.
Here's hoping.
Bob
@Bob Bubeck posted:Yes. We have all seen those. However, what one hopes to see in the near future is a fully finished model assembled with good QC that runs well and sounds good.
Here's hoping.
Bob
Just reinforcing that tooling is cut. As to when the Legacy Berks will appear, THAT is a different story.
Frankly, right now I'm in no hurry. It would be just something else to throw into the moving van.
Rusty
Boring...........Just send me my RF&P legacy Birk...........People get ready....the day is coming soon that no new flyer equipment will be produced.
Opinion? I didn't expect much. I have a feeling Lionel won't be offering much new S scale product. Just toys to cater to the AF crowd. With MTH closing my opinion is that S is headed for dark times. Until 3D printing really hits mainstream I doubt we will see much new product.
In the meantime, perhaps we should start a grassroots campaign to ask Lionel to FINALLY make the SD40-2? Maybe a petition could convince them to build it?
First time in a long time there is nothing I want. Probably good for my wallet haha.
Still waiting for the August items now pushed up to OCT.
@Former Member posted:I wanted to start a new posting, but with dial-up, I can't seem to do it, so the question goes here, since it's related to the catalog. It appears that the trucks, both 4 and 6 wheels have been re-tooled. In the pictures I would say the springs are just cast in, but the text for the Woodside cars claim their trucks are sprung. So, what's the story? and with the retooling, are the axles changed to, to maybe pointed ends?
Probably "Cut 'n Paste-itis." Most Lionel catalogs are afflicted with it in some form or another.
I don't see Lionel spending money on retooling Flyer trucks.
Rusty
Guys, remember that these are not photos but artists renditions only. You can't make assumptions of the finished products from the catalog. These may have just been done by two different artists.
@Roundhouse Bill posted:Guys, remember that these are not photos but artists renditions only. You can't make assumptions of the finished products from the catalog. These may have just been done by two different artists.
Not quite. They're usually photos of undecorated models (sometimes even O gauge models, like they did with the Challengers in 2011) with the graphics Photoshopped over the image. Lionel's been doing this for years.
Rusty
In any case I doubt new truck design.
@Roundhouse Bill posted:In any case I doubt new truck design.
Well, here is a thought. If Lionel still has access to the old S gauge K-Line tooling, they could offer 'new' sprung 4-wheel trucks without making new tooling. The K-Line's are near-copies of the old SHS trucks. YMMV.
Bob
@Bob Bubeck posted:Well, here is a thought. If Lionel still has access to the old S gauge K-Line tooling, they could offer 'new' sprung 4-wheel trucks without making new tooling. The K-Line's are near-copies of the old SHS trucks. YMMV.
Bob
I'll admit, it would be nice to get rid of the current clunky trucks, but if they didn't make use of the K-Line trucks years ago, I don't see it happening now.
I think whatever agreement there was for the K-Line assets has expired.
Rusty
@Rusty Traque posted:I'll admit, it would be nice to get rid of the current clunky trucks, but if they didn't make use of the K-Line trucks years ago, I don't see it happening now.
I think whatever agreement there was for the K-Line assets has expired.
Rusty
If they missed the boat with the K-Line trucks for whatever reason then perhaps if they are on the ball they could try and pick up the MTH trucks.
@Rusty Traque posted:I'll admit, it would be nice to get rid of the current clunky trucks, but if they didn't make use of the K-Line trucks years ago, I don't see it happening now.
I think whatever agreement there was for the K-Line assets has expired.
Rusty
Your speculation about my speculation?
Bob
It's all just "S"peculation !
@Bob Bubeck posted:Your speculation about my speculation?
Bob
@FlyerRich posted:It's all just "S"peculation !
It's what we do be"S"t!
Rusty
Well, for someone attempting my first build in 'S', the catalog looks OK, with stuff I would like in the future. Right now, I am concentrating on S FasTrack components. I have one loco, the LionChief Berk, which is running very nicely.
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