2021 is S American Flyer 75th Anniversary

Probably an A. C. Gilbert Northern, SD70 or ES44...  If anything.

A really good new product to celebrate the 75th would be is the C&O Allegheny (and NOT using the K-Line body.)  Gilbert made a mock-up of one but never pursued it.

Rusty

I would like to see some of the larger sets re-issued, complete with original box artwork.

Another item would be A/F transformers to power their products.

Phil

They should do a Hudson. For certain a detailed Legacy version followed by a FlyerChief version.

I agree on remaking some more engines that Gilbert Flyer made. (Hudson, K5, 0-8-0, and Atlantic)  A engine Gilbert never made, like an Allegheny, wouldn't seem appropriate. 

Roundhouse Bill posted:

I agree on remaking some more engines that Gilbert Flyer made. (Hudson, K5, 0-8-0, and Atlantic)  A engine Gilbert never made, like an Allegheny, wouldn't seem appropriate. 

There is marketing value in "proposed at the Gilbert Hall of Science, but never made."  It could be considered as expanding on the Gilbert tradition.

I recall the Gilbert's feasibility sample still exists.  Granted, it's not much more than a wood dowel on two Hudson mechanisms, but imagine if ACG actually made it.

AmFlyer posted:

They should do a Hudson. For certain a detailed Legacy version followed by a FlyerChief version.

I think we're already experiencing the minor marketing disaster that is offering two versions of the same locomotive.

Rusty

Any body remember when Lionel/AF offered in a pre-catalogue - maybe 1988 or so the return of the NYC J3A but is was replaced in the real catalogue by PA1s. Always wondered what kind of drive mechanism it was going to have. The road name offered the first year was going to be Wabash. 

ns1001 posted:

Any body remember when Lionel/AF offered in a pre-catalogue - maybe 1988 or so the return of the NYC J3A but is was replaced in the real catalogue by PA1s. Always wondered what kind of drive mechanism it was going to have. The road name offered the first year was going to be Wabash. 

The Wabash was for the "Historic American Railroads" set and Santa Fe for separate sale.

Most likely it was going to have the traditional Gilbert drive, probably with a can motor.  Almost all of the old Gilbert tooling needed to be reworked, which was one of the reasons the project died.  The approximate $500 price tag was the other and more or less the main reason.  VG-E Flyer Hudson's could be had for about $125 back then.

Offering the Hudson in New York Central wouldn't have saved the project

Rusty

My all time favorite AF was the NYC J3A Hudson followed by the PRR K5 pacific which my father bought from a Firestone tire store in the early 50's with SIT. Bought the Lionel AF FEF-1 with smoke lifters after they had removed the choo-choo sound - great loco but sound is not loud enough. Gave up on a revival of the AF J3A so bought the Legacy O gauge J3a with the as delivered tender which goes around O-36 track fine. Why did the last version of the AF J3A have a plastic tender?

The plastic tenders for the last K5, Hudson, and Northern were made to save money.  That is why the cheaper engines had plastic tenders. 

How about some of those great accessories?

an sd40 would be nice or my favorite locomotive the MK5000C  which likely won't happen sd40 might though

Allegheny sign me up but i probably can't afford one

update- ryan mentioned the anniversary and said next catalog will make the flyer folks smile

i am primarely an o gauger but i do want to play with flyer every now and then

When the Hudson was proposed I put in my order, it was a lot of money at the time but I so much wanted to see some new steam power. I would still like to see it, Milw. Rd. labeling would now be my preference. How about in Hiawatha steam?

Ray

Personally I have zero interest in any remakes of AF products. If they bring out ANY new scale, detailed tooling I'll buy it. I would be over the moon if they brought a scale Legacy Hudson. I'd buy 4 and change road numbers if necessary.  It's a long shot, but I'm hoping the success of the Legacy Berk has them considering more Legacy scale products.

I'm all in on a Legacy Hudson...

Earlier people from Lionel said that they would put out some things to celebrate the 75 year. I have to believe it will be existing stuff with displays that note the birthday in their graphics.  My guess is no new tooling.

I tend to agree.  Probably a specially decorated boxcar and maybe a Gilbert Hall of Science aquarium car.

Rusty

@Roundhouse Bill posted:

Earlier people from Lionel said that they would put out some things to celebrate the 75 year. I have to believe it will be existing stuff with displays that note the birthday in their graphics.  My guess is no new tooling.

A bit of a non event then if this is all it could be.

Now that the MTH S product line is possibly in doubt for the future (unless anyone knows something) you might feel that Lionel are in prime position to take advantage of the situation to take some risk and produce some interesting new items to satisfy the AF/Hi-Rail and the scale people. Strike while the iron is hot!

@Big John Henry posted:

How about some of those great accessories?

Great idea.  Make them with better motors than those crummy, loud can motors that were used in earlier repro's.

@Ukaflyer posted:

A bit of a non event then if this is all it could be.   Now that the MTH S product line is possibly in doubt (unless anyone knows something) you might feel that Lionel are in prime position to take some risk and produce  interesting new items to satisfy the AF/Hi-Rail and scale people.

I would be happy if those two random items were produced for the Flyer 75th anniv.   I don't quite understand how the status of the old MTH S line would put Lionel in any "prime position" to do anything in particular.