@AmFlyer posted:I did not realize the tooling for these engines was "lost." It would be nice if these engines were re-released with Legacy, elctrocouplers, fan driven smoke etc.
That was the explanation given when a Southern passenger set with the Pacific was cancelled about 10-12 years ago.
Rusty
Thanks, I always learn something new.
I have the AM Southern Crescent passenger set pulled by the AM Pacific. Probably do not need a second Southern set at this point. However I will buy any new Legacy steam engines made.
These are nice engines, now I am excited to see the catalog.
Here are two pictures. One shows the engine pulling away from a station, fan driven smoke makes a major difference. The other one is the NYC (it is the Mikado version) sitting in front of a Santa Fe Y-3. The detailing is excellent on these engines from 15 years ago.
If this is correct (And I have no reason to believe it is not), what a disappointment. No new tooling. No bringing back a Gilbert item from the past or even one they were going to build and didn’t.
I expected something really special for the 75th.
sigh
—Rocco—
Besides the list on the top of this thread there is a big 75th Anniversary set with a Pacific Legacy engine. The list price is well over $1,000 (Maybe $1,400). I don’t know how many cars are in the set.
—Rocco—
@Rocco posted:If this is correct (And I have no reason to believe it is not), what a disappointment. No new tooling. No bringing back a Gilbert item from the past or even one they were going to build and didn’t.
I expected something really special for the 75th.
sigh
—Rocco—
I was hoping for a reissue of the 933 boxcar with a big 75 on the side...
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
I was hoping for a reissue of the 933 boxcar with a big 75 on the side...
There is an anniversary gold colored boxcar if that floats your boat.
@Rocco posted:If this is correct (And I have no reason to believe it is not), what a disappointment. No new tooling. No bringing back a Gilbert item from the past or even one they were going to build and didn’t.
I expected something really special for the 75th.
sigh
—Rocco—
I don't think the current regime is well versed in A. C. Gilbert lore.
Rusty
Link American Flyer catalog video HO and S Gauge: https://youtu.be/YcwCFy3w1bk start at 2.22
Nice video. I will be buying the new legacy Pacific. Overall not bad. They seen to be focusing on what sells.
$699 on the Legacy Pacific; did the scale Mikado use the same shell as the Pacific?
749 for the john bull set, pretty cool
The Legacy Pacifics in the new catalog are completely different than the TMCC Pacifics from the 2005 timeframe.
I believe the basic shell of the TMCC Pacifics is the same as the shell for the TMCC Light Mikados.
Flyer starts around 2 min 27 seconds. Guy presenting doesn't have a clue.
The "boundless journey" definitely has boundaries.
Rusty
@Rusty Traque posted:Yep, although it was the other way around as the Mikado came out first.
Rusty
The Berkshire/Pacific/most likely the Mikado down the road are some positives for S scale folks. I have doubts that Lionel will revive the old Flyer Hudson and K-5 which are NYC and PRR specific. The USRA steam engines can be painted for a large number of roads without having to go fantasy. With tooling so expensive my hunch is if Lionel produces more S gauge steam it will be scale sized capable of navigating Gilbert sized curves. A scale version of the USRA 0-6-0 or 0-8-0 (hello Nickel Plate Road!) are a couple more steam locomotives that a lot of railroads owned.
@MTN posted:The USRA steam engines can be painted for a large number of roads without having to go fantasy.
Oddly enough, they are fantasy paint schemes. (But at least they're not outrageously painted...) Only the Atlantic Coast Line, Baltimore & Ohio and Louisville & Nashville bought USRA Light Pacific's. Only other roads that bought what are known as "copies," purchased after the USRA was dissolved, were the Grand Trunk Western and Mobile and Ohio (merged later into the GM&O.)
No other roads bought USRA Light Pacific's or copies.
Now, the USRA Light Mikado: That was a locomotive purchased by a pretty good number of railroads.
Rusty
I have the Blue Comet set and that is a beautiful pacific and train. 
@AmFlyer posted:The Legacy Pacifics in the new catalog are completely different than the TMCC Pacifics from the 2005 timeframe.
Sorry Tom. The Legacy Pacific's are the same as the earlier Pacific's, but with Legacy added.
Rusty
Good news if they are, but the catalog illustrations in that video made the New Legacy Pacifics look much less detailed.
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