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Originally Posted by Adriatic:

 When the Engine in the first video dropped its load, ...

The reason is that the MTH coupler failed after pulling 9 heavy metal passenger coaches around an O-72 curve. Naturally the scratch-built full metal tinplate coaches are much heavier than the plastic-mold Rivarossi/Lima coaches. The heavy weight prevents the coaches from derailment when doing rounds 8 hours uninterrupted and continuously in one regular public exposition day. The European engines are made of Rivarossi/Lima bodyshell and MTH underframe+motorization. So, I have learned from this mechanical failure and from now on I let my engines pull only 5 or max. 7 coaches.

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I still have some LGB European-style narrow gauge locomotives (Austrian and one French).

 

I do have a Lionel Hogwarts Express that I acquired piece by piece. I want to add another GWR Hall class 4-6-0 and a couple of GWR-painted cars.

 

I do wish that I'd been in O earlier and had the foresight to buy Lima's BR MK-1 coaches either in BR Maroon or in Great Western livery.

 

I don't know how big the market is for European-style O in general and British-outline O in particular here in North America, but I think Lionel wouldn't have to worry so much about competition as they would in years gone by. The long 2008 (and forwards) recession shut down a lot of British O scale production.

Originally Posted by BetaNuSigmaPhi:
Originally Posted by John23:

... Out of curiosity, are you located in the States or Europe? ...

Our location is in the United States of Europe. In our club we play primarily with American toy trains. Additionally I have my own European O gauge collection with rather exotic rolling stock.

Do you display at German shows?  I come to Germany usually every two years to visit my wife's family.  We always go to Düsseldorf and Idar-Oberstein, and sometimes to Cuxhaven and Fürth, near Nürnberg. 

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Added this sweet NOS ETS car to my Euro collection today. In keeping with the rest of my Euro collection the couplers match nothing else I have, part of the fun. These are American style knuckles.

Note it is spotted outside the Cafe de Flores.

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Maybe 8 years ago around Christmas time some drug stores used to have battery powered O scale sets that were made in gauge. The quality was usually very low. I got a SP GP9 led set and this neat DB S-3 pacific that has been mostly painted correctly but for the new road-name. It is a piece but I might try adding some postwar guts and some weight for fun.

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Originally Posted by BetaNuSigmaPhi:
Originally Posted by John23:

Do you display at German shows?  

Our club would like to participate 2017 near Frankfurt at the

www.us-convention-brd.de

but the transportation of our massive club layout and our limited resources and budget are a challenge. We have to think about it...

Where is your club located?  We have European Forum members and some of the US/Canadian members do travel to Europe.  I'm sure some here on the Forum would like to see it.

Originally Posted by John23:
Originally Posted by BetaNuSigmaPhi:
Originally Posted by John23:

Do you display at German shows?  

Our club would like to participate 2017 near Frankfurt at the

www.us-convention-brd.de

but the transportation of our massive club layout and our limited resources and budget are a challenge. We have to think about it...

Where is your club located?  We have European Forum members and some of the US/Canadian members do travel to Europe.  I'm sure some here on the Forum would like to see it.

Our club is located at Porvoo in Finland (approx. 40 kilometers/30 minutes drive east of Helsinki on the motorway in direction to St.Petersburg).

In this small province town someone can find an abandoned RR yard with station building and shed of historical heritage architecture.

Our club's video channel is 

https://www.youtube.com/user/P...ModelRailways/videos

Most probably our club will participate mid October at

http://www.nukkekotimessut.fi/suurisnadi/index2.html  

Myself I have two locations, Helsinki/Finland in the north (mostly when working) and Thessalonica/Greece in the south (occasionally when relaxing in my olive garden). 

I intend also to participate at the pre-Xmas model railroad event on November 21st and 22nd in the central Rw. Station of Helsinki, because on this weekend will be officially announced the opening of the Santa Claus season, a special occasion for kids with original Santa riding on real museum steam engine (no fake Hogward).

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Originally Posted by BetaNuSigmaPhi:
Originally Posted by John23:
Originally Posted by BetaNuSigmaPhi:
Originally Posted by John23:

Do you display at German shows?  

Our club would like to participate 2017 near Frankfurt at the

www.us-convention-brd.de

but the transportation of our massive club layout and our limited resources and budget are a challenge. We have to think about it...

Where is your club located?  We have European Forum members and some of the US/Canadian members do travel to Europe.  I'm sure some here on the Forum would like to see it.

Our club is located at Porvoo in Finland (approx. 40 kilometers/30 minutes drive east of Helsinki on the motorway in direction to St.Petersburg).

In this small province town someone can find an abandoned RR yard with station building and shed of historical heritage architecture.

Our club's video channel is 

https://www.youtube.com/user/P...ModelRailways/videos

Most probably our club will participate mid October at

http://www.nukkekotimessut.fi/suurisnadi/index2.html  

Myself I have two locations, Helsinki/Finland in the north (mostly when working) and Thessalonica/Greece in the south (occasionally when relaxing in my olive garden). 

I intend also to participate at the pre-Xmas model railroad event on November 21st and 22nd in the central Rw. Station of Helsinki, because on this weekend will be officially announced the opening of the Santa Claus season, a special occasion for kids with original Santa riding on real museum steam engine (no fake Hogward).

Ah, I should have guessed.   It is good to see that this hobby is enjoyed in Finland too.  Your club has a nice layout.  The museum operation looks interesting too.

 

BTW, where I live in Northern Michigan, are many descendants of Finnish immigrants.  Some towns have Finnish names. 

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Originally Posted by John23:
Originally Posted by BetaNuSigmaPhi:
Originally Posted by John23:
Originally Posted by BetaNuSigmaPhi:
Originally Posted by John23:

Do you display at German shows?  

Our club would like to participate 2017 near Frankfurt at the

www.us-convention-brd.de

but the transportation of our massive club layout and our limited resources and budget are a challenge. We have to think about it...

Where is your club located?  We have European Forum members and some of the US/Canadian members do travel to Europe.  I'm sure some here on the Forum would like to see it.

Our club is located at Porvoo in Finland (approx. 40 kilometers/30 minutes drive east of Helsinki on the motorway in direction to St.Petersburg).

In this small province town someone can find an abandoned RR yard with station building and shed of historical heritage architecture.

Our club's video channel is 

https://www.youtube.com/user/P...ModelRailways/videos

Most probably our club will participate mid October at

http://www.nukkekotimessut.fi/suurisnadi/index2.html  

Myself I have two locations, Helsinki/Finland in the north (mostly when working) and Thessalonica/Greece in the south (occasionally when relaxing in my olive garden). 

I intend also to participate at the pre-Xmas model railroad event on November 21st and 22nd in the central Rw. Station of Helsinki, because on this weekend will be officially announced the opening of the Santa Claus season, a special occasion for kids with original Santa riding on real museum steam engine (no fake Hogward).

Ah, I should have guessed.   It is good to see that this hobby is enjoyed in Finland too.  Your club has a nice layout.  The museum operation looks interesting too.

 

BTW, where I live in Northern Michigan, are many descendants of Finnish immigrants.  Some towns have Finnish names. 

My great-grandfather was from Hancock, MI, the home of Finlandia University, formerly known as Suomi College, and many Finns immigrated there to work in copper mining. There was a lot of interesting railroading there, some of it narrow gauge, much of it supporting the mining industry.

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Originally Posted by Southwest Hiawatha:

Curiously, people of Finnish heritage in Upper Michigan are known as "Finlanders" rather than Finns. The version of Finnish spoken there is archaic, reflecting the lack of contact with the mother country since the wave of immigration in the 19th century. 

There is still a distinctive accent in the Central UP several generations later.  I lived in a town with a large Finnish population and picked it up.  Still have a bit of it yet.

 

One of the narrow gauge locos still operates in the summer, at Lake Linden.  Three others still exist at Hancock.  One original mining railroad still operates, the Lake Superior & Ishpeming.

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Originally Posted by Alibatwomble:

These two arrived today, they are Lima 2 rail that were made in Italy back in the 1970's & have been converted to 3 rail 12vdc.Are very light weight so will have to add some lead. L.M.S.4F's

Those are nice engines.  I like the buildings in the background too, scratch-built or kits?

Originally Posted by Southwest Hiawatha:

Curiously, people of Finnish heritage in Upper Michigan are known as "Finlanders" rather than Finns. The version of Finnish spoken there is archaic, reflecting the lack of contact with the mother country since the wave of immigration in the 19th century. 

To confuse even more...

- Finnish speaking Finns (like Savonians, Carelians, etc.) --> Suomalainen...

- Swedish speaking Finns (in coastal area like Vaasa and on Baltic islands) --> Finlander...

- Sami speaking Finns (from Lapland/Lapponia/Lappi) --> official Santa Claus Land

- Gipsy/Roma with varying Finnish dialect

 

Over generations skilled Finnish ex-patriats settled in industrial areas of North-America on both sides along the Canadian border, like mineral mines, wood mills, pulp industries, steel mills, etc., where branchline and narrow gauge railroad was involved.

This is also one reason for the existence of our model RR club: to honor the Finns who helped building America's industry.

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 Being a bit more like home, it was a natural fit climate wise for the people of the more northern European nations to settle in the north.

Pines, Pike and its big brother the Muskie , similar game, and sandy soil for rye didn't hurt the Great Lakes chances of becoming home for many of them either.

 

But mainly I think they came for lots of wood to heat the sauna with.

 

   

   

Originally Posted by lewrail:

Hi John,

 

Obviously we must be twins separated at birth.  Who else besides us has the Hornby

P. Elizabeth, the Ace Mallard, a bunch of MTH PCC trolleys, and a Western Hobbycraft trolley to boot.

 

Lewrail

 

 

Hello, Lew; you won't remember this, but you generously assisted me in evaluating that PE when I bought it at York in October, 2001. Thanks again! The PCCs are by Corgi.

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Originally Posted by lewrail:

Woops. I see it's the Golden Eagle not the Mallard. Did you get the full Golden Eagle passenger set?  Here is another photo of my European madness.

 

Lewrail

 

 

Lew, I got it as part of the Coronation Special set, which I bought through Weaver when they represented AceTrains.

02D East Wall Large View

 

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