This will be an amazing offering if enough orders are made.
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Looks like the first three-rail models.
This is great news - please also make the 301 in the 50th Anniversary paint scheme!
I would love to get the MARC version but with no MARC cars I’m not sure. I guess I can ask Scott if new MARC Bombardier cars would be offered in future.
I am hoping Scott offers the Cascades Talgo passenger set to go with the Washington DOT Cascades scheme.
This is HUGE!
+1 for the MARC version and for MARC Bombardier bi-level cars!
3rd Rail gives the disclaimer:
Some Photos Courtesy of brasstrains.com
Production is pending licensing by Amtrak
Permission by Siemens to Produce and Use Production Drawings
This is difficult to interpret. The licensing by Amtrak is a no brainer; they will get it. The problem is getting a license from Siemens. It is not that Lionel and MTH did not want to produce a Charger, the problem has been getting a license from Siemens at an acceptable cost to them. If 3rd Rail has secured a license from Siemens, then most likely the product will be made as there is certainly enough interest. If 3rd Rail has not secured a license from Siemens as of yet and is still pending, then the odds of SC locos being made go way down.
Cool, but I still want Lionel to make a Legacy-equipped Vision Line model of the Charger. Maybe in the future. Also, the Surfliner, Via Rail Canada, and Brightline versions need to be made. Besides making a superbass unit for the Brightline train as well as a powered unit, I don't know how Lionel would pull off Brightline. Also, we need Siemens passenger cars for the new Chargers.
@Dylan the Train Man posted:Cool, but I still want Lionel to make a Legacy-equipped Vision Line model of the Charger. Maybe in the future. Also, the Surfliner, Via Rail Canada, and Brightline versions need to be made. Besides making a superbass unit for the Brightline train as well as a powered unit, I don't know how Lionel would pull off Brightline. Also, we need Siemens passenger cars for the new Chargers.
I don't know how you can "vision that" but adding legacy is a possibility because its a single motored unit
FYI:
Amtrak licenses us per prototype and Livery. They just want to make sure we are going into production (have enough orders) before they officiate the specific License to us. So we use the verbiage "Pending...". In other words, if we have enough orders, we will get license and produce.
As for Siemens, they are supportive of our effort to make a very accurate scale model of their handy work.
I hope that makes it clear. We hope to get lots of orders quickly to get this project off the ground.
Thanks for your interest and support.
OK can someone clarify that the Chargers sound like Dash 9's?
- "Multiple Road Numbers
ABS BODY and FIXED PILOTS
Ball Bearing Axles Journals
Horizontal Can Motor Drive
3R ERR Cruise, TMCC, Railsounds (Dash 9 Specific)
2R - ESU Loksound 5.0 DC/DCC Dual Speakers
New Extreme Detail Cab Interior (Lighted)
Smooth Operating, All Wheels Powered "
- And what about the "radiator light"?
@Bruk posted:I am hoping Scott offers the Cascades Talgo passenger set to go with the Washington DOT Cascades scheme.
does that include that Fugly "Duck Bill" cab car or the "bat winged" tail cars?
I don't think Lionel or ERR has a charger soundset for 3rd rail to use. Or if produced that it would have a proper soundset. Example is the rdc cars dont have the right engine sounds
This is a welcome surprise, now the hard part: Deciding just how many liveries to buy
@sdmann, Roughly how many road numbers per livery do you expect?
(And on the offchance: Is Brightline willing to license/sponsor out? I'd imagine not / or is cost prohibitive as it's not an option right now)
I'm in for one, but want to hear about the opportunities for a Brightline model before committing to a livery - whether it's an absolute 'no' for whatever reason, or if some paperwork still need filing before it can be listed.
~Chris
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:does that include that Fugly "Duck Bill" cab car or the "bat winged" tail cars?
Id be okay if he didn’t. Just the transition cars and coaches would be plenty for me.
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:OK can someone clarify that the Chargers sound like Dash 9's?
No, but its the closest you can get with ERR or a Lionel sound set.
If you want real recordings ESU DCC would be the best bet. Thats why I placed an order for one….
@SirCaptain posted:This is a welcome surprise, now the hard part: Deciding just how many liveries to buy
@sdmann, Roughly how many road numbers per livery do you expect?
(And on the offchance: Is Brightline willing to license/sponsor out? I'd imagine not / or is cost prohibitive as it's not an option right now)
Depends on reservations but usually 4, so long as there are 4 different prototype numbers of the specific livery.