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Scott,

Thanks! I’d be in for the Santa Fe “Super Fleet” freight version. That’s the revived warbonnet scheme with the large red Santa Fe lettering (road numbers 90-98) and represents the engines’ appearance from 1989 until retirement. That would compliment your upcoming SD40-2s nicely. I think I’d also go for one in the Santa Fe “Kodachrome” scheme of the late 1980s.

RM

The "Bookend"/blue dip scheme would be the freight contemporary of the small lettered warbonnet, although the FPs had the cigar band style logo on the nose rather than the square circle cross.

@Hot Water posted:

For what it's worth, the Amtrak SDP40F is quite a bit different, not only being a "Dash 2" series with the HTC 3 axle truck (different than the F45 & FP45 trucks), but also there were no steps & hand railings in the front.

Yes, I know they're not identical, but we're in the ballpark here.  Trucks would exist in Scott's parts bin from the SD40-2 project, and if he does Tunnel Motors he also has a frame with the right wheelbase.  Its not too much of a stretch to make the locomotives for the otherwise somewhat orphaned El Cap sets.

3 phases of Amtrak, ATSF, ATSF Maersk special paint job, and one was an EMD test bed in blue and white.  There's some opportunity here to share parts.

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I'd definitely be in for three as delivered ATSF Warbonnet versions to pull my El Capitan and perhaps a repainted freight version to go with the SD40-2 for a prototypical consist.

Don't forget about the Milwaukee Road passenger version painted in the post 1955 UP inspired scheme.  I haven't seen that one posted by anyone else. 

The other schemes have all been listed. 

For early Amtrak there are photos showing leased FP45s and F45s in consists with SDP40Fs.  One of my favorite consists is a photo showing a Warbonnet FP45 leading an as delivered blue and yellow F45, followed by a SDP40F pulling the Southwest Limited.  While it seems like a lot of HP, three units were common when ATSF was pulling the combined El Capitan / Super Chief.

The "Bookend"/blue dip scheme would be the freight contemporary of the small lettered warbonnet, although the FPs had the cigar band style logo on the nose rather than the square circle cross.

Yes, I know they're not identical, but we're in the ballpark here.  Trucks would exist in Scott's parts bin from the SD40-2 project, and if he does Tunnel Motors he also has a frame with the right wheelbase.  Its not too much of a stretch to make the locomotives for the otherwise somewhat orphaned El Cap sets.

3 phases of Amtrak, ATSF, ATSF Maersk special paint job, and one was an EMD test bed in blue and white.  There's some opportunity here to share parts.

SDP40F would be interesting as well. For so many reasons from rainbow trains to Amtrak fans.  Both of these locomotives have never been done right in 1/48. A Sunset quality FP45 and the albiet different but similar SDP40F in Amtrak would be neat.

When I lived near the ATSF Harbor Sub, I used to see a pair in Blue/Yellowbonnet parked on a siding. As I recall, there were at least four different paint/lettering patterns on the FP45's. There are photos at the links below:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic...3BltpoA&usqp=CAU

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_p.../98391/5953%2096.jpg

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@AGHRMatt posted:

When I lived near the ATSF Harbor Sub, I used to see a pair in this paint parked on a siding. As I recall, there were at least four different paint patterns on the FP45's.



Hi Matt...please indicate if you took this picture or have permission to post it so that we can avoid any possible copyright.

Thanks!

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Regarding the FP45; Milwaukee Road had these without dynamic brakes.  Delivered in the UP Colored Passsenger Scheme, later repainted in Orange and Black "freight scheme".  Three different lettering options.  Small side lettering, Herald only and Large side lettering.  It appears that a roof top winterization hatch was added during the first repainting.

I've read the talk about the SDP40F.  It would be neat if we could have those as well for Amtrak.  If not, the FP45s painted Amtrak might suffice.  I hate to ever mention that, but I don't know what the overall interest is for the SDP40F.  The HO crowd finally got theirs just prior to covid.

If variations are possible, perhaps the F40C could also be produced.  Milwaukee Road had these for the Chicago commuter service.  Later repainted into Metra Colors.  These ran up until a couple years ago.  Metra still has a pair stored.

As far as I, I, I; Me, Me, Me; Me, I; Me, I, Me, I:  My interest would be 2 Milwaukee Road Yellow FP45s, 1 Milwaukee Road Orange/Black Herald Only, 2 Amtrak SDP40F's and 1 Metra F40C.

From here, we get into the Calculus of FP45s.  In one direction you have the F45 which was ordered by more road than just Santa Fe and Milwaukee Road.  In the other direction we have the SD45 which should be a future consideration.  And yes, when we get down and dirty into the SD45 discussion, C&NW had them without dynamic brakes and EL had SDP45's, which were a bit longer.  Wisconsin Central ended up with one of these (6634), so it would be a request:-)

Photos emailed to 3rd Rail directly to avoid any posting concerns.

Hey Guys:  How about an Amtrak F40PH?  I know this is a little off topic, but the nose looks similar....  Overland Models did not produce a lot of these.  I know one guy who has 4, two more guys that each have three, which I believe accounts for most of them.  With the Amfleets coming out and the Horizon Cars that have been out for some time, I think there might be some demand here.  I can think of 2 different Chicago-Metra paint schemes, 3 different Amtrak paint schemes, plus the Amtrak conversion to a cab control car........

@Brad Kowal posted:

Hey Guys:  How about an Amtrak F40PH?  I know this is a little off topic, but the nose looks similar....  Overland Models did not produce a lot of these.  I know one guy who has 4, two more guys that each have three, which I believe accounts for most of them.  With the Amfleets coming out and the Horizon Cars that have been out for some time, I think there might be some demand here.  I can think of 2 different Chicago-Metra paint schemes, 3 different Amtrak paint schemes, plus the Amtrak conversion to a cab control car........

I'd be in for at least 4. More if Chicagoland Metra is represented.

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