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The photo shown for the past 6 months of the CN SD40-2 was pf a standard cab model built for the CN then sold to the KCS then sold to the GTW and repainted in the 1990's CN scheme.

What road numbers and schemes will be on the CN SD40-2W?

Andrew

Haven't completely gotten to CN yet, but right now playing around with the units in the 5241-5363 series and the as delivered paint scheme.  Scott has committed to do the wide cab so the web site will be updated accordingly.

@GregM posted:

I was curious what road numbers from the range provided might be prototypical for the Conrail Quality SD40-2 engines. A little research located these pictures of potential numbers on the Conrail Photo Archive.

Conrail 6442 10/15/98 Hagerstown, MD

Conrail 6449 02/18/96 Altoona, PA  (On flatcar after wreck)

Conrail 6451 4-21-94 Altoona, PA  (Nose only)

Conrail 6451 02/14/98 Bear, DE

Conrail 6457 06/15/96 Gallitzin, PA  (Rear "Conrail Quality")

Conrail 6457 02/14/98 Wilmington DE  (Nose "Conrail Quality")

Conrail 6476 12/31/95 Edgemoor, DE  (Only CONRAIL on nose)



There are probably other numbers that can be used, only included two even and three odd numbered engines.

Man I miss hearing those 645s coming up Cresson mountain through the Jewel of the Mainline at my grandmother’s house.  

The fun starts around the 1:54 mark…

@rplst8 posted:

Man I miss hearing those 645s coming up Cresson mountain through the Jewel of the Mainline at my grandmother’s house.  

The fun starts around the 1:54 mark…

I've watched this video no less than a dozen times with the speakers at full volume. The Dash 8's sound pretty good, too, but nothing like the pushers.

@rplst8 posted:

8836 is ex-Conrail.

Edit: actually, they all are.

All of the ex Conrail units either went to CSX or NS and were painted appropriately by their new owners.  Not a single person has asked about getting them in their new owners livery.

If you want to see the difference between the HTC and Flexicoil trucks in action there is a video on Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07vc1q73i-c] showing the differences in slippage.  Both are SD40-2s and one is an ex Conrail unit.  Wow!

@rdunniii posted:

All of the ex Conrail units either went to CSX or NS and were painted appropriately by their new owners.  Not a single person has asked about getting them in their new owners livery.

I don’t understand.  I wasn’t suggesting they be delivered in their new owners livery.  Johnathan asked if anyone could unravel that teaser he gave.

@rdunniii posted:

All of the ex Conrail units either went to CSX or NS and were painted appropriately by their new owners.  Not a single person has asked about getting them in their new owners livery.

If you want to see the difference between the HTC and Flexicoil trucks in action there is a video on Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07vc1q73i-c] showing the differences in slippage.  Both are SD40-2s and one is an ex Conrail unit.  Wow!

Wow, that was quite a show! Thanks for posting.

@EMD posted:

rdunniii, I guess nobody wants ex-Cons

That wheel slippage video has been posted on here before

I believe it was a malfunctioning traction motor?

Maybe, but...all 6 motors are slipping.  It is the difference between no traction control on the flexicoils and tractions control in the High Traction trucks.  Everything else on the two units is the same.

@rdunniii posted:

All of the ex Conrail units either went to CSX or NS and were painted appropriately by their new owners.  Not a single person has asked about getting them in their new owners livery.

If you want to see the difference between the HTC and Flexicoil trucks in action there is a video on Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07vc1q73i-c] showing the differences in slippage.  Both are SD40-2s and one is an ex Conrail unit.  Wow!

Sometimes a little independent helps with the wheelslip.

Scott has updated the website to show the correct version of the CN SD40-2 with the Canadian wide cab.  UPDATED:  Road numbers will be 5266, 5267, 5281, & 5289 from the GF-30p class in their mid 1980's appearance.  Updated website info here:  CN Wide Cab

I realize that this may seem like a bit of a moving picture, but this is the process at work.  Seeing where certain road numbers fit into various variations so that the slide-tool can be used to keep the project in line with cost projections.   

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Jonathan:

Will the Norfolk and Western  SD40-2 be spelled out like the photo posted or will it have the more popular NW paint scheme?

Also will the high hood SD40-2 have the correct early grills and the all weather windows as per the NW EMD specs. PS: The EMD specs says 40" wheels.

Thanks, George DiSanti - Home the the Tar Heels!

The EMD documentation I have seen so far is not clear.  This operating manual states 40"
http://tcrc320.org/MEMBERS/SD40-2_Operator_Manual.pdf

This EMD maintenance instruction says that nominal wheel diameters are 40" and 42" and that 42" wheels were available on all HT-C trucks made since 1972.  Unless you have road specific details, I wouldn't get too picky.
https://heritagerailalliance.w...S-AXLES-1987-OCT.PDF

@rplst8 posted:

The EMD documentation I have seen so far is not clear.  This operating manual states 40"
http://tcrc320.org/MEMBERS/SD40-2_Operator_Manual.pdf

This EMD maintenance instruction says that nominal wheel diameters are 40" and 42" and that 42" wheels were available on all HT-C trucks made since 1972.  Unless you have road specific details, I wouldn't get too picky.
https://heritagerailalliance.w...S-AXLES-1987-OCT.PDF

I would be very careful about believing EVERYTHING posted on the internet. I was employed by EMD (June 1962 thru December 1998) and was in Sales Engineering Dept. when the Dash 2 series came out. None, I repeat NONE, of the Dash 2 series units were delivered with 42" diameter wheels! Yes, the the axle HT-C truck was DESIGNED to accept 42" diameter wheels, when they became available to RR customers.

Jonathan:

Will the Norfolk and Western  SD40-2 be spelled out like the photo posted or will it have the more popular NW paint scheme?

Also will the high hood SD40-2 have the correct early grills and the all weather windows as per the NW EMD specs. PS: The EMD specs says 40" wheels.

Thanks, George DiSanti - Home the the Tar Heels!

George,

The paint scheme will be the NW scheme.  It will have the early grills.  Most of the SD40-2 models will at this point.  For the all weather windows I have some photos, but if you have detailed images you can send to me or post that will help the factory understand how to do them well when they do their Solidworks models prior to starting any tooling.

Thanks!

Jonathon: I will send you or have Stephen send several photos of a well done brass all weather window. Please post the photo of the correct paint scheme so customers know what is to come. I ordered a loco years ago and got a different paint scheme than what was posted. Needless to say I was very very disappointed!!!!! Will the locos have color changing class light (F5 -white, red, and green) as ESU does for ScaleTrains in HO?  You may want to put 2 windows to be installed by the modelers as most had windows on each side and make extras to sell (I would buy some) for example the DT&I Geeps that were lacking.

George DiSanti - Home of the Tar Heels

Last edited by George diSanti

Jonathon: I will send you or have Stephen send several photos of a well done brass all weather window.

Prototype photos are preferable.  Just because it was done in brass doesn't always translate to correct.  We don't want to copy someone else's mistake.

Please post the photo of the correct paint scheme so customers know what is to come. I ordered a loco years ago and got a different paint scheme than what was posted. Needless to say I was very very disappointed!!!!!

I will request that Scott update the photo. 

Will the locos have color changing class light (F5 -white, red, and green) as ESU does for ScaleTrains in HO?

That is a direct question for Scott and the team that does the engineering side.  I am not involved with that part of the project, but I will be sure to pass it on,

You may want to put 2 windows to be installed by the modelers as most had windows on each side and make extras to sell (I would buy some) for example the DT&I Geeps that were lacking.

Again, Scott is the boss, but I will see what he says.  We often provide additional parts in the box for such modifications.

George DiSanti - Home of the Tar Heels

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