I saw somewhere in the thread we are just short of 200 reservations. I’ve a MP and a Frisco reserved. I’d up my MP to two to help get to Needed 275 numbers to get it to fly. 275 into 200,000 gets to the 729$ current pricing. 250 reservations get to an 800 price point. I could also double my Frisco too. If I’m a lonely Frisco fan I can switch the Frisco to SF.
ANYONE Else out there willing to make a final push ???????????
Can we Help Finally Make this a GO ?????
One last push ??? Or just pull the plug!!!!!! Time to 👍 or 👎this offering.
If a no-go I’ll just realign my reservation “bux” into the Alco FA offering. Gotta get it moving too.
cheers !!! 🤗
Trainbub, I like your thinking
Scott,
Would it be worthwhile to see if existing reservation customers are interested in upping their reservation figure to make this project possible/worthwhile
Then maybe calculate a higher price
Just one last ditch effort to make this project a reality
Thanks for listening
Can we keep this thread on topic w/ 40-2s (please 
)
I am flexible with my road names. I prefer W&LE but would also be interested in B&O (Chessie System) and CSX.
Any consideration for an SD40-2 with the special cooling package for the SP/SSW and Rio Grande fans. Some even made it to the UP in 1996.
I know this is 3R Scale. But one can dream....
Ok folks. Final push time. To contribute to the push, I’ve doubled my MP and Frisco reservations to 2 each. We need 275 reservations to maintain the $729 price. I could go to $750 but not higher !
Scott. Give it another month to see how this reactivated thread uptick Relates to total reservations. If we can’t get to the needed reservations, put it to bed and move on. I’ll move some Reservation money to increase my Alco FA Position.
cheers 🤗
"After all this time we only have 190 reservations, only 1/2 of what is needed."
It seems like more than 275 reservations are needed.
Fours years have passed and we're only at 50%.
I will simply state that this is what usually happens on any 3rd rail diesel these days. There is this huge push to get to minimal reservations and then once it get produced those who didn't reserve ask for a second run once photos go up of the model.
In the past it was possible to do things like pilot models. That is not today's reality. So in as that horrible 80's song goes when it comes to pre-ordering, "You gotta have faith!"
I just can't quite justify going above two orders myself with current pre-ordrs. Maybe I could go one more on a 3r ATSF one for a pair, but the 2 rail Conrail one I pre-orded is way out of my 2 rail modeling era. Especially true now that I picked up an old Gem PRR F-3 Mogul detailed for the 1920's for my layout. 
Pondering ... the ATSF SD40-2 does go well with the 3r era I model at my club.... decisions, decisions.
It is silly to have the conversation in general for such an iconic locomotive that has never really been done well at this scale remotely close to this price point.
Well shoot, I'll add another one this weekend after I finish my current assignment for Scott.
@sdmann posted:BTW: Would you guys be mad if I dropped the SD40-2 for something more popular? After all this time we only have 190 reservations, only 1/2 of what is needed. What could the new diesel be that many want?
Well I’ll never buy another Sunset mod...
Just kidding. 😇
My feelings won’t be hurt. However, could you please keep the option open in the future to try again? Maybe when all the dust settles from the closing of MTH and people start changing their ordering behaviors.
As for what to replace it, I don’t have a good sense of the things you’ve offered before, so forgive me if these have been done recently.
1. GE C39-8 Conrail (humpbacks!)
2. GE U33C Conrail
3. GE U25C PRR or Conrail
4. GE U28C PRR or Conrail
5. GE U23B Conrail
6. GE U30C PRR or Conrail (already done by MTH)
7. GE U25B PRR or Conrail (already done by MTH)
@GG1 4877 posted:It is silly to have the conversation in general for such an iconic locomotive that has never really been done well at this scale remotely close to this price point.
Agree! If we can't get enough orders for this, how can anything get made?
Maybe we just have to educate everyone on just how bad the other SD40-2 offerings are!
@rplst8 posted:Agree! If we can't get enough orders for this, how can anything get made?
Maybe we just have to educate everyone on just how bad the other SD40-2 offerings are!
Well I’ve 2 MTH MP units - one powered one dummy. They are decent though sit Way to high which I hate. The dummy is a steal though. If the SS SD40-2s take off, these old ones hit eBay to help fund my reservations. 😬
cheers
@rplst8 posted:Agree! If we can't get enough orders for this, how can anything get made?
Maybe we just have to educate everyone on just how bad the other SD40-2 offerings are!
2R models have more reservations from what I understand. Makes sense as Lionel has done SD40 and SD40-2, Atlas has done SD40, and MTH has done SD40-2 in 3R. I doubt that the majority of 3Rers care or even know the difference between a 40 and a 40-2. The only RTR 2R SD40-2 that I'm aware of is the MTH which is Proto 3/2 capable, but requires you to fix the pilots and extend the handrails yourself. The 3rd Rail model is much more in line with what 2R modelers are looking for. The reality is that the MOQ requirements seem to be going up and without good orders from 3R and 2R these projects don't get done. My guess is that it is too modern. Seem like the transition era still sells the best. And yes, I know the Dash 9 was announced but I'll believe that when I see them arrive.
@jonnyspeed posted:2R models have more reservations from what I understand. Makes sense as Lionel has done SD40 and SD40-2, Atlas has done SD40, and MTH has done SD40-2 in 3R. I doubt that the majority of 3Rers care or even know the difference between a 40 and a 40-2. The only RTR 2R SD40-2 that I'm aware of is the MTH which is Proto 3/2 capable, but requires you to fix the pilots and extend the handrails yourself. The 3rd Rail model is much more in line with what 2R modelers are looking for. The reality is that the MOQ requirements seem to be going up and without good orders from 3R and 2R these projects don't get done. My guess is that it is too modern. Seem like the transition era still sells the best. And yes, I know the Dash 9 was announced but I'll believe that when I see them arrive.
I have the MTH SD40-2s. They are ok but to tall and couplers are monsters. To bad MTH never upgraded the model. They did a nice job on their U30C. I have - with scale wheels and fixed Pilot. Sweet. Swapped wheels to “hi-rail” wheels to best navigate Ross turnouts.
It would be great to get the SS model off the ground. We need a top quality model of the SD40-2.
am i missing something, but where is the listing on the 3rd rail site besides the reservation page. any color drawings of the roads offered ?
@tangoman posted:am i missing something, but where is the listing on the 3rd rail site besides the reservation page. any color drawings of the roads offered ?
thanks found the site. also would buy one if i could get a mopac one in union pacific yellow. with mopac name.
@tangoman posted:thanks found the site. also would buy one if i could get a mopac one in union pacific yellow. with mopac name.
You can choose the WRITE IN option.
Andrew
falconservice wrote You can choose the WRITE IN option.
thanks andrew signed up for 1.
Has anyone heard any updates if Scott is still considering this project?
There was a small group Missouri Pacific SD40-2 that were painted in the Union Pacific scheme with the MISSOURI PACIFIC name.
They were sent to the Grand Trunk Western with the name patched out, then had the GT logo in red applied.
There are several paint scheme variations of MP and GTW to produce.
Andrew
Unless other orders come in, we can pretty much consider this project dead. Everyone says they want modern or modernish locomotives, but the orders haven't yet seem to support that notion with 3rd Rail at least. If Scott could get the orders it would go for sure. Granted the SD40-2 is not exactly modern. I was 2 when it was first catalogued. However, it has had such a long life span like all the -40 series EMDs, I am surprised it has not seen much tractive effort so to speak.
Of course, Amfleet was something I pitched to Scott over 5 years and once the Viewliners were added, it took off and will be delivered by April. Perhaps there is hope? I have preorders in for ATSF in 3r and Conrail in 2r. Might have to add another 3 Rail ATSF one just to get the orders up by at least a little.
