3rd Rail--now's the time...

Tank drive simply means that the drive shafts from motor to truck gearboxes occurs below the frame, out the ends of the fuel tank, to the trucks.  Many of Jay's repowers do this.  Lots of old brass does this.  It's only a problem if one is picky about appearances. On some locos, with little room between tank and trucks, or with skirting, the driveshaft isn't especially noticeable.  On something like a gp38-2 or say Milwaukee Road sd40-2 with the smaller fuel tanks (i.e. shorter), the driveshaft would be quite noticeable.

I would love to have one in Gulf Mobile & Ohio, undoubtedly the most beautiful paint scheme ever applied to a PA-1.

Malcolm

ALCo PAs would be most welcome in SP Daylight, or SP Scarlet and Gray, or even SP Halloween as long as they are produced in two rail like the F7s, with each A or B unit having it's own decoder and no tethers.  Oh yeah, Erie (black/yellow or two tone) or Erie Lackawanna would be nice also.

I would definitely be in for a set of these.  

Sunset PA's or E6's would both do some damage to my savings account.  I have come close to buying a set of Overland PA's but I keep putting it off and hoping that Sunset does them.  Not sure how much longer I can wait...

I would be patient if I were you, John.

Just to chime in on this topic, I would prefer the E6 next and then the PA. I will probably want a PA in SP, but the E6 would look fabulous in ACL purple and SAL citrus schemes. I'm trying to be patient.  Leon

 

 

This has been discussed, and PA's would be fantastic! I'd be all over any of the RG Zephyr power (bumblebees and aspen). The only early E I'd be interested would be Q 5's, but then again plating on plastic....

That PA demo would be a show stopper though.

I agree that, among other schemes, that orange demo scheme would sure get some attention.

 

Does anyone have any word on when the next run of Sunset F7 road names will be announced?

 

There is no second run of F7s at this time. 

Are Alco's a viable product?  I ask because none of the big market players have produced them.

 

I'm in for an E6.

Now's the time, all right, for the most iconic passenger diesel of all, the Santa Fe E1 A/B, the engine the warbonnet color scheme originally was designed for. It's no bigger than other Es or the PAs being considered here and unlike those engines no 3 rail O gauge manufacturer has done them before.

 

A very similar B&O EA/B set could also be produced. The few visual differences there were between the engines of these two roads most likely could be ignored either way.

 

 

As stated above the PAs are plentiful if not over done. Alco would be a great project with some decent Alco 628, 630, the defunt Weaver RS11/RSD12s. Also never done passenger jeep GP7/9s with the air tanks and steam generators. Stephen

My MUNBER ONE choice would be Alco S1, S2, S3, and S4.

 

Lionel and mth have done limited road names, would be great for small layouts, Sunset would have better quality (NO Stinking handrails on a stick!) and Atlas has been requested several times and it has fallen on deaf ears. Stephen

NO PAs

Stephen

Everything mentioned here has been done in brass at one time or another. PA's have been over done. At least 3 technological generations of PA's have been done in 1/48 starting with Samhongsa's Key version in 1989 followed by Ajin in  2001 and Key Model in 2010. I am not referring to CLW.

Don't forget about Sunset's Samhongsa PA!

These GGD models are really brass models with plastic shells.

Oriental Limited did Torpedo boat GP7's, OMI did BL2's, GP9's and lest we not forget about the Red Caboose Geeps now produced by Atlas.

E1, E3, E5, E6 all have been now completed in the same dynamic. Firstly OMI back in the 80's then 2 runs by Key Model in 2012/13.

It would be nice to see an accurate early E unit in plastic. I would buy more. The key word here is done "right" or "correct".

What about BL2's ???

Sunset Models PA!

(C) Gregory Posta of RGSRRHOBBIES

Erik: With due respect but Oriental passengers GP7/9 are scarce if not rare and out of date. Atlas has not done torpedo GPs nor has Red Caboose. The Red Caboose kits are fragile to say the less and not readily availabe to the general puplic. Most roadnames have never been covered!

Stephen

Any of these is a possibility.  All it takes is reservations for 400 units.  The early Es were a contender instead of the later Es but the number of different plastic shells required vs the number of potential reservations kinda nixed them.  E.g., the B&O EAs require a different shell from the ATSF E1s which require a different shell from the CBQ E5s which require a different shell from the E6s. And doing E6s at all with the threat of Lionel (or MTH) doing another run of theirs?  Not gonna happen.  And then there are the UP E2s.

 

The 2-rail market is not enough to make anything happen alone (and neither is the 3-rail market).  While the 3-rail plastic diesels are a minority for 3rd Rail, and a shrinking one at that, they are still a make or break for a project.

Richard you are spot on.

       
       


Those first run Oriental Geeps are in my opinion pretty bad. The second batch was far better.

Rare is an understatement.

I always thought the 3- rail market was carrying Sunset.  That is a surprise - so if we got 400 reservations for a die cast PA it could happen?  A pipe dream; folks prefer plastic Diesels.

Jonathan told me at the TCA RMD RMTS last March that 2 rail is outselling 3 rail for GGD.

Perhaps that is why 3 rail is so cheap compared to 2 rail when you look at items on the used market.

 Ah, that must because the CF7s are coming first!

I thought the FP45s were next up ;-)