On an un-named auction site was a five car lot.  Listed as 3rd Rail and included the R50B express reefer shown below.  Did 3rd Rail or GGD offer an R50B?  Thank you, John in Lansing, ILL

GGD R50B

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Hi John,

3rd Rail made these in brass over 10 years ago along with an RPO and passenger cars.  They did not make  an observation car at that time.

Shortly after those cars,Scott produced a set of 3 Pullman cars in green,in brass also I am pretty sure.

Norm

Yes, GGD did make the R50B and it was delayed by years.  By the time I receive mine on June 1, 2012, I had already collected  many of the MTH set by 2008.

I'm surprised.    I know NJCB imported brass models of the R50b and also I think Max Grey imported them.    I did not know that Sunset/3RD Rail had done them.

As has been mentioned, the photo is of the MTH R50b.  Nice cars, but certainly not the level of refinement you'd see in brass or the cost for that matter! 

Here are pictures of my brass 3rd Rail R50.  Well, its brass and came in a 3rd Rail box.  

DSCN0360DSCN0361DSCN0362DSCN0369DSCN0370

3rd Rail called it an R50, not an R50b like MTH.  Do not know the difference.  Here are two pictures of my MTH R50b.  One has added on ladders and the other has molded in ladders.

DSC_0017PRR R50b

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GG1 4877 posted:

As has been mentioned, the photo is of the MTH R50b.  Nice cars, but certainly not the level of refinement you'd see in brass or the cost for that matter! 

A foot away, moving on your railroad, who could tell?

In addition to the MTH plastic R50b, the prototype has been modelled by 4 different brass importers in O scale 2 rail.

  • Max Gray
  • Custom Brass
  • Precision Scale
  • Sunset

2 railers looking for an R50b have quite a choice (including converting the MTH).  The Max and CB  models came in unpainted.  The PSC model was offered in painted and unpainted versions, while the Sunset model was factory painted.  Lettering on R50b's could either be gold or dulux.    Prior to 1952 PRR passenger equipment lettering standard color was gold.  During that year the PRR revised the lettering standard for passenger equipment (including locomotives) to use "dulux" - a mustard colored paint.

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The B60 appears to be a Weaver in the photo.  Still regardless, a very nice set of cars all in all!

rex desilets posted:
GG1 4877 posted:

As has been mentioned, the photo is of the MTH R50b.  Nice cars, but certainly not the level of refinement you'd see in brass or the cost for that matter! 

A foot away, moving on your railroad, who could tell?

Three to four years ago before my vision started going all fuzzy I could!  Not anymore though.  I can barely read my phone these days. 

 

Yes.   Scott also made some P54 cars.  They came and went really fast.  We'll probably never see the likes of those ever again.

Norm

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Norm posted:

Yes.   Scott also made some P54 cars.  They came and went really fast.  We'll probably never see the likes of those ever again.

Norm

And that's a shame as they are a unique passenger car and are perfect for layouts that have sharp curves( i.e. less than 072 diameter curves....not to mention they can be made into electric m.u. commuter cars as well as other road names.

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