3rd Rail Wishlist Request Future Engines

An Erie K-5-A Pacific would be great for pulling around a set of Golden Gate Depot passenger cars, but any Erie K-1 through K-5 variant would be much appreciated by Erie fans. 

I think there has only been one previous Erie Pacific offering by Max Gray models, but it must be pretty rare because I have yet to actually see one.

Rutland Mountain

I say they do FP45s.

That Erie K5 looks Amazing.... Very nice indeed... 

I love wish lists, but they all suffer from the same problem:

A  hundred locomotives that two or three people want instead of two or three locomotives that a hundred people want.

WITZ 41 posted:

I love wish lists, but they all suffer from the same problem:

A  hundred locomotives that two or three people want instead of two or three locomotives that a hundred people want.

That's often true.... But if more people chime in, as is the point of the thread, we may have something nice for Scott and gang to see what we would like...

Well here's a bit of an off the wall suggestion, but how about the Amtrak E60 and E60MA?

We have only had the semi scale Williams engine offered in O gauge, and I belive that neither MTH or Lionel will want to tool up for what is a regionally popular locomotive, which would make it a good candidate for Scott to offer.

It would also go nicely with his scale Amfleet cars due out soon. 

Here are some sample photos I found in various searches as I have been collecting photos for a modeling project, but they are not mine.

The E60 as delivered in 1975: 

The Rebuilt E60MA in phase 3 paint:

They were also used by New Jersey Transit, NdeM of Meixco, and the Black Mesa and Lake Powell Railroad. 

FYI MJ Breen, someone on Da Bay is selling full scale E60 bodies. All you need to do is snag either an MTH or a Lionel U28c/U30c/U33C frame and trucks and you are set!

The GN Man posted:

Northern Pacific W-3 Mikado 

Done my OMI and a lot of flaws.

My wish would be the Virginian’s MB 2-8-2 mikados as they appeared later in life, not as built.

Second choice would be the VGN PA Pacifics 4-6-2.

George Lasley

A major gap in 3 Rail N&W locomotives is the S1a. The S1a was a 0-8-0 and was used by other railroads as well.  

The C&O's most common switcher engine was the class C-16 0-8-0.  The C-16a was manufactured in 1942 by Lima. They were numbered 240-254. The C-16b was manufactured by Baldwin in 1948. They were numbered 255-284. 

The Virginian Railway bought 15 C-16a's; numbers 240-254. They were classed as SB retaining the same numbers.

In 1954 C&O donated 18 to the Korean National Railway.

The Norfolk & Western bought 30 C-16b's; numbers 255-284. They were classed as S-1 and also retained the same road numbers. Improvements made by the N&W included over-fire air jets, a second air pump, and changes to the walkways.

The N&W then "cloned" these; producing the S1a numbers 200-244. Cab #244 holds the distinction of being the last steam locomotive built for an American Class 1 railroad. As such, it is a significant locomotive in the history of steam. 

Note the unique welded tender. The "USRA" 0-8-0s previously offered don't come close.

This is a locomotive that should appeal to C&O, VGN, and N&W fans.  Please consider offering additional tenders for separate sale with the various road names.

Would like to see Illinois Central Panama Limited Passenger set or..

I would like a GP9 with their fantastic single motor drive for diesels.    I am also hoping for a second run of the Alco PAs.

Realistically, our requests should go to sunset, not OGR forum.     And a word to the wise, if they do announce something, you have to reserve it, otherwise, no build.    They build to order.

My request is quite simple. No new dies needed nor maybe even different paint. Just reverse the late colors for the early colors.

NYC EMD E7

Pete

I'm still in for C&O / NYC "Super Makido's".

Once again that being C&O's having the flying front pumps on the smoke box,  pilot mounted head/marker lights, and both tenders, Vanderbilt 12 wheeled, and the long 12 wheeled tender that was used on the Kanawha 2700's.

Then the NYC "H10's a/b/c's, with their version of the 12 wheeled tender........Richard Leonard has some beautiful pictures, of these engines.

Both versions have a mega amount of pipe work, and in most opinions, what all of the Makido's should have looked like...

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Gilly@N&W posted:

A major gap in 3 Rail N&W locomotives is the S1a. The S1a was a 0-8-0 and was used by other railroads as well.  

The C&O's most common switcher engine was the class C-16 0-8-0.  The C-16a was manufactured in 1942 by Lima. They were numbered 240-254. The C-16b was manufactured by Baldwin in 1948. They were numbered 255-284. 

The Virginian Railway bought the C-16a's. They bought 15, numbers 240-254; classed as SB, also retaining the same numbers. In 1954 18 were donated to the Korean National Railway.

The Norfolk & Western bought the C-16b's; numbers 255-284. They were classed as S-1 and retained the same road numbers. Improvements made by the N&W included over-fire air jets, a second air pump, and changes to the walkways.

The N&W then "cloned" these; producing the S1a numbers 200-244. Cab #244 holds the distinction of being the last steam locomotive built for an American Class 1 railroad. As such, it is a significant locomotive in the history of steam. 

Note the unique tender.

 

This is a locomotive that should appeal to C&O, VGN, and N&W fans.  Please consider offering additional tenders for separate sale with the various road names.

I second that Tom. I'd also like to see 3rd Rail do an N&W K1. They've done and K3 and K2a before so it would seem a logical choice.

Dave_C posted:

Rutland Mountain

I’ll second that vote

Milwaukee Road Mallet 2-6-6-2.

Norton posted:

My request is quite simple. No new dies needed nor maybe even different paint. Just reverse the late colors for the early colors.

NYC EMD E7

Pete

We did this paint scheme in the 2nd run in 2012.  They show up on eVilbay from time to time.

I would like to see Lehigh Valley 4-8-4 Wyoming Class done in 3-rail.  To my knowledge, this engine has never been built in O scale.

VintageClassics posted:

WITZ 41 posted:

I love wish lists, but they all suffer from the same problem:

A  hundred locomotives that two or three people want instead of two or three locomotives that a hundred people want.

That's often true.... But if more people chime in, as is the point of the thread, we may have something nice for Scott and gang to see what we would like...

Happy to chime in.  I just need 99 more of you to chime in too!  I already talked to Scott about it.  He's not optimistic after offering and cancelling the earlier 3 cylinder version.  Only the SP version was made.  However, I would posit that the late version would have more interest due to period of operation 1942-1954 during steam's zenith.

Like many unique Union Pacific power it's been done in HO but never in O.  UP 4-10-2 (late) #5090-5099.  They used oil tenders converted from the 9000 series.  After being simplified to 2 cylinder operation in 1942 they ran as late as 1954 on the Cajon pass.  Big, Brutish, and Beautiful.

#5097 would be the must have cab number.  It survived in operation the longest.

The Streamliner Vol. 7 No. 1 has some great photos and info on the 4-10-2s in it's discussion of the Cajon Pass....

but alas, there only seems to be a market for more Hudsons or another F3/F7........I'll take my singular wishes and go cry tears of self pity, by myself, curled up in the corner now.....

Joe Congemi posted

I second that Tom. I'd also like to see 3rd Rail do an N&W K1. They've done and K3 and K2a before so it would seem a logical choice.

The K1 is on my short list too. Along with the Z1b. Since this 0-8-0 was common to C&O, VGN, and N&W I had hoped that it would have a better chance of being produced.

Gilly@N&W posted:

Joe Congemi posted

I second that Tom. I'd also like to see 3rd Rail do an N&W K1. They've done and K3 and K2a before so it would seem a logical choice.

The K1 is on my short list too. Along with the Z1b. Since this 0-8-0 was common to C&O, VGN, and N&W I had hoped that it would have a better chance of being produced.

N&W guys,

I would be interested in any of those steamers, too.  I know this was an engine tread, but how about getting some of these done so our engines have some accurate hoppers to pull?  I would love to see Scott do either  one or both in plastic:

Well we still don’t have the legendary 9900 Zephyr done correctly in 21st century standards

The GN Man posted:

Northern Pacific W-3 Mikado 

Scott tried the W-3 and the W-5 probably 10 years ago, could not get the minimum number to make it happen.   

I was very surprised when Scott announced the CB&Q O-1a and that project moved forward. 

Regards,

GNNPNUT

If there is anything that will get me to spend the money on a 3rd rail locomotive it would be this:

My favorite stories from my grandfather's time on the SP were when the first ones came through Englewood Yard in Houston on the way to California.  His eyes always were lit up when telling it.  These wild locomotives from Germany were apparently the talk of the SP system when they first arrived.

Id be happy with a nicely done SW1500.  The only option for 3R O is the Railking model and its not spectacular.

TomWCarter posted:

Id be happy with a nicely done SW1500.  The only option for 3R O is the Railking model and its not spectacular.

Probably 1500.00 for a lowly switcher, not going to happen. Steamers sell not diesels.

With the beautiful job 3rd Rail did with the SD7/SD9, a logical follow-on using most of the superstructure tooling would be the SD18/SD24/ATSF SD26/UP SD24b.

Another one would be the EMC BB-1800 Box cabs -- ATSF Class1, EMC Demonstrator, B&O, and CB&Q. The problem is you have four distinct superstructures with this locomotive class.

I’m with Brandy put me in for NYC or C&O Mikados 

I hope they re-issue the N&W 475 in the Strasburg Paint. 

Funny, the best selling locomotive are the prr models yet there hasn't been any as of late. I would like to see

Prr k2/k3 orK5 class Pacific steam

PRR 2-8-8-0

PRR 4-4-0 d16 sb or

PRR E3 4-4-2 

Or another round of FP7's PLEASE!

Add an Amtrak SDP40F for my El Capitan or California Zephyr!

Maxrailroad posted:

I hope they re-issue the N&W 475 in the Strasburg Paint. 

We need more command control equipped Strasburg locos!

Joe Congemi posted:

Gilly@N&W posted:

A major gap in 3 Rail N&W locomotives is the S1a. The S1a was a 0-8-0 and was used by other railroads as well.  

The C&O's most common switcher engine was the class C-16 0-8-0.  The C-16a was manufactured in 1942 by Lima. They were numbered 240-254. The C-16b was manufactured by Baldwin in 1948. They were numbered 255-284. 

The Virginian Railway bought the C-16a's. They bought 15, numbers 240-254; classed as SB, also retaining the same numbers. In 1954 18 were donated to the Korean National Railway.

The Norfolk & Western bought the C-16b's; numbers 255-284. They were classed as S-1 and retained the same road numbers. Improvements made by the N&W included over-fire air jets, a second air pump, and changes to the walkways.

The N&W then "cloned" these; producing the S1a numbers 200-244. Cab #244 holds the distinction of being the last steam locomotive built for an American Class 1 railroad. As such, it is a significant locomotive in the history of steam. 

Note the unique tender.

 

This is a locomotive that should appeal to C&O, VGN, and N&W fans.  Please consider offering additional tenders for separate sale with the various road names.

I second that Tom. I'd also like to see 3rd Rail do an N&W K1. They've done and K3 and K2a before so it would seem a logical choice.

Me three!

CSX Troy posted:

Gilly@N&W posted:

Joe Congemi posted

I second that Tom. I'd also like to see 3rd Rail do an N&W K1. They've done and K3 and K2a before so it would seem a logical choice.

The K1 is on my short list too. Along with the Z1b. Since this 0-8-0 was common to C&O, VGN, and N&W I had hoped that it would have a better chance of being produced.

N&W guys,

I would be interested in any of those steamers, too.  I know this was an engine tread, but how about getting some of these done so our engines have some accurate hoppers to pull?  I would love to see Scott do either  one or both in plastic:

 

I would like to see these hoppers too. I think someone has done them in brass, BUT, who the heck can afford to build a train of $300+ hoppers?

Pretty please Southern 630 and/ or Southern 4501! Both could be done in a handful of numbers, paint schemes, and modifications.

As a post WWII and PRR runner, I realize I have a lot of steam to choose from.  However, if 3rd Rail decided to do another PRR steamer these are my choices in order of preference:

-B8a.  A 0-6-0T converted from B8 shifters.  Nice small engine that lasted into 50s.

-K5.  Two were built and they lasted into the 50s.

-K2.  242 K2/K3 were built, and only one K2 remained in 1949.  But that is my era so I'd buy it.

-N2sa.  Don't really need another large engine, but this one is missing from all manufacturers' lineups.  While this was initially a USRA design, all were rebuilt with Belpaire fireboxes starting in 1923.  I would only buy the rebuilt version.

The only diesel I want is a Phase II or Phase III F3 ABA (Phase II early would be great).  Not interested in Phase I, Phase IV or F5.  Right now 3rd Rail's web site states only the Phase IV will be made, probably using some of their F7 tooling.  

Alco diesels FA1 or FA2 or RS3’s

Lionel16 posted:

I would like to see Lehigh Valley 4-8-4 Wyoming Class done in 3-rail.  To my knowledge, this engine has never been built in O scale.

 

Definitely would love to see some Lehigh Valley steam... in addition to all the great requests, this one is fantastic. 

I'll dream too and put in a vote for the PRR K2.  A little before my era of modeling, but I'm not past faking it a bit.  It is so homely compared to the K4s.  Got love an ugly steam engine.

The Wyoming is cool, but I don't see 100 orders for it.  Too bad because I just picked up a Locomotive Cyclopedia that has the drawings. 

Other dreams include:

• CNJ 4-4-2 Camelback
• CNJ 2-8-0 Camelback
• CNJ Baby Face Baldwins
• PRR D16sb
• FP45 and SDP40F
• Western Maryland Potomac
• PRR R1
• PRR DD2
• ACS64
• Metroliners
• Silverliners
• EMD EA

The list goes on ......

GG1 4877 posted:

I'll dream too and put in a vote for the PRR K2.  A little before my era of modeling, but I'm not past faking it a bit.  It is so homely compared to the K4s.  Got love an ugly steam engine.

 

Well you could do the PRR K3 4-6-2, and that would also allow sunset to do the N&W E3 4-6-2, whom the PRR sold 5 K3 to, thought the N&W supplied their own standard tender (which sunset has done.

Image Source: http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=91279

A Great Northern N-3, possibly as an Anniversary Series offering.

I was one of those who ordered both a Northern Pacific W-3 and W-5 Mikado back when Scott first announced them, and I'd do it again if he saw fit to re-institute either project.  Sometimes market conditions change. 

I wonder how many here would actually pony up the money if there wish came true and 3rdrail was to make their engine?   Case in point when 3rdrail didn't get enough reservations for the NYC H10 mikado.

superwarp1 posted:

I wonder how many here would actually pony up the money if there wish came true and 3rdrail was to make their engine?   Case in point when 3rdrail didn't get enough reservations for the NYC H10 mikado.

A good point... I for 1 definitely would purchase any of my wishlist engines if 3rd Rail were to make any of them.

I remember back when we tried to get 3rd Rail to do the ATSF 2900 class, and THEY DID! 

It's a shame about the NYC H10 Mikado...  I wonder if perhaps it wasn't the "right time" for it...Perhaps the H10 might do better now or in the near future?

All 3rd Rail has to do is make the announcement for H10.Im ready to make a reservation 

 I would like to have two of these....

Al

VintageClassics posted:

superwarp1 posted:

I wonder how many here would actually pony up the money if there wish came true and 3rdrail was to make their engine?   Case in point when 3rdrail didn't get enough reservations for the NYC H10 mikado.

A good point... I for 1 definitely would purchase any of my wishlist engines if 3rd Rail were to make any of them.

I remember back when we tried to get 3rd Rail to do the ATSF 2900 class, and THEY DID! 

It's a shame about the NYC H10 Mikado...  I wonder if perhaps it wasn't the "right time" for it...Perhaps the H10 might do better now or in the near future?

 

 

I'm wondering how the reservations are going for the two Mohawk classes 3rdrail announced last year???  A engine no one seem to ask for.

GG1 4877 posted:

I'll dream too and put in a vote for the PRR K2.  A little before my era of modeling, but I'm not past faking it a bit.  It is so homely compared to the K4s.  Got love an ugly steam engine.

The Wyoming is cool, but I don't see 100 orders for it.  Too bad because I just picked up a Locomotive Cyclopedia that has the drawings. 

Other dreams include:

• CNJ 4-4-2 Camelback
• CNJ 2-8-0 Camelback
• CNJ Baby Face Baldwins
• PRR D16sb
• FP45 and SDP40F
• Western Maryland Potomac
• PRR R1
• PRR DD2
• ACS64
• Metroliners
• Silverliners
• EMD EA

 

The list goes on ......

Other than something interesting like a side rod electric like DD2 the others are neat but probably a small target audience.   The O1's are still often seen and both them and the L1s were not the quickest sell-outs so it seems that either PRR stuff sells slow (worked out?) or is made in too high of run numbers.  Only the manufacturer knows that.

Surprised the FP45/F45 hasn't been done.  It has a lot of curb appeal.   Athearn got a lot of miles out of the HO version (or was it AHM with the N scale one - getting too old to remember!).

Love them even though they are out of my era.  I recall a post by Number 90 where Tom said they were noisy to run due to the enclosed/full carbody.    Still wished I would have been able to have some of his right hand cab seat time.  

Rule292- Athern came out with the HO version in 2017. I would spend 1,400 for a correct pair of those ( one in phase1 and another in phase II paint!

superwarp1 posted:

I wonder how many here would actually pony up the money if there wish came true and 3rdrail was to make their engine?   Case in point when 3rdrail didn't get enough reservations for the NYC H10 mikado.

I stood by my word and purchased the GGD Amtrak Slumbercoach, The Amtrak decorated El Capitan, the Amtrak Superdome, 

and have on order the PRR heavyweights: dinner, baggage and RPO!( To go with my one or two Sleeping cars that arrived last year!)

M J Breen posted:

GG1 4877 posted:

I'll dream too and put in a vote for the PRR K2.  A little before my era of modeling, but I'm not past faking it a bit.  It is so homely compared to the K4s.  Got love an ugly steam engine.

 

Well you could do the PRR K3 4-6-2, and that would also allow sunset to do the N&W E3 4-6-2, whom the PRR sold 5 K3 to, thought the N&W supplied their own standard tender (which sunset has done.

Image Source: http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=91279

 

It may be a Pacific type wheel arrangement but for two popular railroads along with that funky looking trailing truck and it being an older PRR steam class  never been done in O scale or three rail before would sell better than the monotonous PRR L1 that has flooded the market for the past decade.

I am so sick and tired of looking at EMD SW's and NW's , I wish somebody, anybody would make an ALCO T6!

GG1 4877 posted:

• CNJ 4-4-2 Camelback
• CNJ 2-8-0 Camelback
• CNJ Baby Face Baldwins

I would like to second the request for a small to medium sized Camelback that isn't a 4-6-0.

To the Most Knowledgeable All-seeing, All-knowing, Great Manufacturer 3rd Rail,

Please allow me to enjoy before I croak (I will be 70 in May) the most illustrious of all smelly diesel locos, the most famous Milwaukee SDL-39. Please. Thank you, I plead, beg what ever it takes, Please.

Dick

Rock Island 4-8-4's!!!

Texassp

   ATSF also used the German manufactured engines.  They used a hydraulic powered motoring system, one reason why they were not used for as long a time.  I, too, have always wished they would be produced in O scale/gauge modeling.

Jesse      TCA

texastrain posted:

Texassp

   ATSF also used the German manufactured engines.  They used a hydraulic powered motoring system, one reason why they were not used for as long a time.  I, too, have always wished they would be produced in O scale/gauge modeling.

Jesse      TCA

None of my Santa Fe books even indicate that Santa Fe ever tested a Krausse-Maffei locomotive, let alone owned one. 

SP and D&RGW are the only roads that bought K-M's and even the Rio Grande trio eventually went to the SP.

However, in February 1963, the New York Central tested two Rio Grande K-M's for 19 days.

Rusty

CBQer posted:

To the Most Knowledgeable All-seeing, All-knowing, Great Manufacturer 3rd Rail,

Please allow me to enjoy before I croak (I will be 70 in May) the most illustrious of all smelly diesel locos, the most famous Milwaukee SDL-39. Please. Thank you, I plead, beg what ever it takes, Please.

Dick

 

Oooo!.....I like it!

Groveling to the drumbeat of mortality!

Now, why didn't I think of that?

I'm with Santiago.........Rock Island 4-8-4, coal & oil, either 5000's or 5100's.  Beautiful locomotives, which operated all over the CRIP system, including Chicago, Omaha, Twin Cities, Kansas City, Denver, Colorado Springs, Tucumcari NM, Dallas/Ft worth, Lincoln NE.  So these locomotives could be an addendum to almost any modeler's roster of SP, CBQ, Milw, DRGW, etc.

The General

The above request for a American 4-4-0 leads me to suggest:

The Mohawk and Hudson Railroad DeWitt Clinton with a four car consist. (I would reserve as soon as 3rd Rail posted)

Central Vermont 2-10-4

On the theme of the 4-4-0's.....this one would be popular, for full scale small layouts

Al

MR-150 posted:

Alco diesels FA1 or FA2 or RS3’s

The only ALCo Diesels I will jump on are the demonstrators..

FA-2 ABA

RS2

RS3

RSD4

superwarp1 posted:

I wonder how many here would actually pony up the money if there wish came true and 3rdrail was to make their engine?   

Well, I stepped up on the N&W K2a, M, and TE-1. Bought the K3 on the secondary market. It was offered before I became active in the hobby again.

The only reason I didn't buy the Y6b; I already had the Lionel JLC. "Good enough" in my book.

If a K1, S1a, or Z1b is offered, I'm getting them even if something else gets sold-off.

mark s posted:

Central Vermont 2-10-4

So close.  Make it the 2-8-0's and I'd find the money for at least four or them.  And they might even be able to produce them in CNR, DWP, and Grand Trunk versions given the similarities, to increase appeal and viability.  

Jim

Milwaukee Steam Power

Northern Pacific Steam Power

SP&S Steam Power

Steam that's never been offered in O scale.

I love Steam but I see that these could be hot sellers.

FM Erie Built AB units. Those would go great with the GGD Hiawatha passenger set.

Amtrak Cascades Talgo Set would be cool. Never offered in O scale or any other scale.

A better model of the Amtrak GE P42 than MTH with more prototypical detailing.

ALCO Century Series. C636's which have never been done on O scale.

I second the Western Maryland Potomac!!!

I'm with Mark S,  Central Vermont T3a 2-10-4. smaller, 60" drivers, Elasco feed water heater, Vandy tender

and a popular road name with a great splash of color on the tender. This engine would stand out chugging

along with a string of milk cars  on anyones layout. Would love to see Scott put this

engine out for a reservation trial balloon ,  I think he'd be surprised at the level of interest in producing 

this locomotive.

a

I'd be in for a Cascades Talgo set

But if we haven't gotten Superliners, I don't see the Talgo happening

WP’s 4-8-2’s are also at the top of my list. Handsome, simple and pulled a variety of trains.

I would like a properly detailed N&W 611 excursion version.

J 611 posted:

I would like a properly detailed N&W 611 excursion version.

That's an interesting one.

I think the excursion version has a dual headlight - are there any other defining features?

Daniel Raible posted:

J 611 posted:

I would like a properly detailed N&W 611 excursion version.

That's an interesting one.

I think the excursion version has a dual headlight - are there any other defining features?

There are a few. Coal boards on the tender is one of the more noticeable along with the dual beam headlight.

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

PRR 4-4-0 d16 sb or

PRR E3 4-4-2

Either would be nice, but the plain D16 would be preferable for me,

An E2

or and E1

would be welcomed

J 611 posted:

I would like a properly detailed N&W 611 excursion version.

I have the 1980 Sunset J. It's not perfect but the best I've seen in O scale. 

Daniel Raible posted:

J 611 posted:

I would like a properly detailed N&W 611 excursion version.

That's an interesting one.

I think the excursion version has a dual headlight - are there any other defining features?

 Not sure if it was just on the 611 or all of the later J's, but the earlier ones had rounded tender tank tops (as modeled by sunset) and 611 has a flat top today. 

New York Central System/Lines K5b Pacific with the heavy eyebrow(Elesco feedwater heater)

nick

Maxrailroad posted:

I hope they re-issue the N&W 475 in the Strasburg Paint. 

Or my number one choice, the Strasburg 2-10-0 #90

And I'd like to have a set of 'The Coaster'.

Let's get this back to the top...  I would like to see a 4-6-2 light pacific or similar, painted black, but undecorated to any road name.  This way we could letter it to any road name we wanted.  This would help with obscure road names not being done.

Would love to see some SD38-2(3)'s for EJ&E, SD60's in CN (ex Oakway) and SD70's for CN and IC

Will Ebbert posted:

J 611 posted:

I would like a properly detailed N&W 611 excursion version.

I have the 1980 Sunset J. It's not perfect but the best I've seen in O scale. 

I'd like to find one of those but haven't been able to yet. 

roll_the_dice posted:

Let's get this back to the top...  I would like to see a 4-6-2 light pacific or similar, painted black, but undecorated to any road name.  This way we could letter it to any road name we wanted.  This would help with obscure road names not being done.

This is a very interesting idea.  If there is any chance said light pacific could be stretched into a Erie prototype with a little work (detailing & decaling) on my part, I would be 100% in.

CAPPilot posted:

As a post WWII and PRR runner, I realize I have a lot of steam to choose from.  However, if 3rd Rail decided to do another PRR steamer these are my choices in order of preference:

-B8a.  A 0-6-0T converted from B8 shifters.  Nice small engine that lasted into 50s.

-K5.  Two were built and they lasted into the 50s.

-K2.  242 K2/K3 were built, and only one K2 remained in 1949.  But that is my era so I'd buy it.

-N2sa.  Don't really need another large engine, but this one is missing from all manufacturers' lineups.  While this was initially a USRA design, all were rebuilt with Belpaire fireboxes starting in 1923.  I would only buy the rebuilt version.

The only diesel I want is a Phase II or Phase III F3 ABA (Phase II early would be great).  Not interested in Phase I, Phase IV or F5.  Right now 3rd Rail's web site states only the Phase IV will be made, probably using some of their F7 tooling.  

Relooking what I wrote earlier, I realize that I really only need/want/desire two engines, the B8a and F3 Phase II/III ABA consist.

I do not need, nor want, any more large steamers.  The B8a would be a nice small steamer for yard work.

I only have one freight diesel, an Erie Built AB consist.  I would like an F3 (Phase II/III only) ABA set to give me another freight option, but right now 3rd Rail is only doing the Phase IV.  May have to wait a few years for this one.

On the subject of a properly-detailed excursion 611, one thing I noticed recently when watching 1994 footage of 611 was that the trailing truck and the tender are/were fitted with roller bearings, possibly AAR class AP type EE. You can see in the photo I've attached sort of what I'm talking about.

I will still jump on a Great Western #90, a Little River 2-4-4-2, that mentioned C&O Mikado, and a realistically sized two truck Heisler. Maybe a two truck Climax.

Well, with the failure of the Santa Fe 2-6-2 to generate much interest, I think more Santa Fe steam is only wishful thinking for a while, so don't faint, I am actually going to suggest foreign line engines.

Frisco had very neat and well-maintained locomotives.  I could get a Frisco caboose or three Frisco passenger cars and use a small Frisco steam engine on an imaginary train on the high plains.  Even better would be an engine from the Frisco subsidiary, Quanah Acme & Pacific.  I think they both rostered 4-6-0's.

But Scott has tried to offer Frisco in the past, and not enough interest was forthcoming.  So, something that might sell and I might buy would be a Southern Pacific 4-6-2.  Scott offered such an engine, oh, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago.  Maybe it could work again, especially in light of the Harriman cars recently produced.

I won't hold my breath, though.  Big 4-8-4's and articulateds seem to be what the market wants.

Norfolk & Western Class A

Looking forward to the D&RGW L-105 - Would be nice to have a properly detailed Class A - 

Any excursion steam of the northeast.

BRW 60, all Strasburg, NYSW 142.

CAPPilot posted:

 

Relooking what I wrote earlier, I realize that I really only need/want/desire two engines, the B8a and F3 Phase II/III ABA consist.

I do not need, nor want, any more large steamers.  The B8a would be a nice small steamer for yard work.

I only have one freight diesel, an Erie Built AB consist.  I would like an F3 (Phase II/III only) ABA set to give me another freight option, but right now 3rd Rail is only doing the Phase IV.  May have to wait a few years for this one.

Looks like I got my wish on the F3.  Do to the similarities between the F3 Ph IV and the F7, 3rd Rail has decided to make a F3 Ph II engine instead, at least for the PRR according to Jonathan.  Not sure about the other roads.  Their web site now says they are making Ph II through Ph IV but has not yet provided any additional information.

A small but lovely Kansas City to Oklahoma City train. 

The lucky HO people already have it. 

Or how about this lovely beast?  It can realistically be a passenger locomotive or a road switcher!

photo credit: mb4stl via railpictures.net

All I want for Christmas is an EMD GP20!!!

Dave

1 and 1A, Super Chief locos

milwrd posted:

Milwaukee Road Mallet 2-6-6-2.

They did these engines years ago ( not mallets) with the shroud over the boiler.  I had one but didn't think the Milwaukee road was a choice.  Like small Berkshires.

Hot water I know you can correct me regarding type

daylight posted:

milwrd posted:

Milwaukee Road Mallet 2-6-6-2.

They did these engines years ago ( not mallets) with the shroud over the boiler.  I had one but didn't think the Milwaukee road was a choice.  Like small Berkshires.

 

Hot water I know you can correct me regarding type

It's not a shroud.  It's a Coffin Feedwater heater. 

Coffin Feedwater heaters could also be recessed into the smokebox as on some Frisco 2-8-2's:

Rusty

E2

E1

Pioneer

Jenny Lind

CAPPilot posted:

CAPPilot posted:

 

Relooking what I wrote earlier, I realize that I really only need/want/desire two engines, the B8a and F3 Phase II/III ABA consist.

I do not need, nor want, any more large steamers.  The B8a would be a nice small steamer for yard work.

I only have one freight diesel, an Erie Built AB consist.  I would like an F3 (Phase II/III only) ABA set to give me another freight option, but right now 3rd Rail is only doing the Phase IV.  May have to wait a few years for this one.

Looks like I got my wish on the F3.  Do to the similarities between the F3 Ph IV and the F7, 3rd Rail has decided to make a F3 Ph II engine instead, at least for the PRR according to Jonathan.  Not sure about the other roads.  Their web site now says they are making Ph II through Ph IV but has not yet provided any additional information.

While I did get my F3 ABA Ph II wish, the B8a tank engine is still on my 3rd Rail wish list.

And this one as well

Worlds largest multi press locomotive 

T4a #8000 2-10-4

Al

Would it be feasible for 3rd Rail to make a USRA steam engine and offer it in a few roadnames and also undecorated? My choice would be for 0-6-0, 0-8-0 or Pacific. I already own each of these - but they weren't made by 3rd Rail.

MELGAR

albertstrains posted:

And this one as well

Worlds largest multi press locomotive 

T4a #8000 2-10-4

Al

What is a "multi press locomotive"?

Hot Water posted:

albertstrains posted:

And this one as well

Worlds largest multi press locomotive 

T4a #8000 2-10-4

Al

What is a "multi press locomotive"?

It means multi pressure locomotive. Apparently this thing had three separate boilers: http://www.okthepk.ca/dataCprS...pNews90/06070100.htm

I'm still holding out for a scale Reading K-1 or even a Reading I-10 2-8-0. Except for the T-1 and a limited run of Pacifics (by Weaver and SGL), there is a real lack of scale Reading steam locomotives.  I would order one in a heartbeat!

Jim

 Sorry about that description

As mention already by J 611 it should read “Multi pressure” locomotive .

- 3 separate boilers

- 3 cylinder locomotive 

 - Closed loop 1350 psi boiler 

- 850 psi boiler  (powers middle cylinder)

 - 250 psi boiler (powers conventional             cylinders)

Al

here is one for everybody kids   belly up to the bar on this one  every body will be asking  WHATS THIS???                         IT'S KIM JONG-UN'S BULLIT PROOF TRAIN!!!!THE ROCKET MAN !!!!

COME ON GALS AND GUYS     ITS   "ROCKET MAN"  A TRAIN TO RUN   A  TRAIN TO PUT ON A SHELF     ALWAYS A TRAIN TO REMEMBER

guys an gals   is no one  interested in the Rocket Mans bullit proof train???????

marty track posted:

guys an gals   is no one  interested in the Rocket Mans bullit proof train???????

Nope! I have better trains to buy with my limited fiancial resources than that one! 

I would love a U.S.R.A. 2-10-2 in PRR

The PRR E1

PRR K2/K3

GE B23-7

GE C39-8

For those who like Union Pacific power, as I do, and I know enough have been made already.  But, for something a little different, the U.P. ALCO made C855/C856 units of the early Century Series engines.

And, as Tom stated, would really like to see more Frisco and QAP engines from the turn of the 20th century to the 1940s periods.  AS for passenger. a model of the streamliner passenger the QAP ran on it's short line between Frisco and Santa Fe mains, and the Frisco Firefly.   As well as the one that started this off, the Santa Fe Madame Queen.  Have seen and photographed her many times, to have a scale model would be great!

Jesse   TCA    12-68275

texastrain posted:

And, as Tom stated, would really like to see more Frisco and QAP engines from the turn of the 20th century to the 1940s periods.  AS for passenger. a model of the streamliner passenger the QAP ran on it's short line between Frisco and Santa Fe mains, and the Frisco Firefly. Jesse   TCA    12-68275

The Frisco Firefly streamlined 4-6-2 was the engine that I was referring to as not being produced.  Scott Mann cataloged it in early-2000's catalogs, but it did not generate enough orders for a production run.

Maybe a second attempt would work, since Scott now can do smaller numbers of an engine.

another run of Dash 9s

BQ23-7

MK5000C

P30CH

AC4400CW

SD70ACE T4

MK1200G

MK2000D

MK TE70-4S

MK SD50M-3

F40C

SD70MAC maybe some METRA ones

SD70ACC

I pretty much have everything I need... My wants are pretty much tied up in Scott's teasers. My focus is northern New England. I'm avidly watching the New Haven FA, the F3 in Canadian National, both Bangor and Aroostook GP7/9 color schemes. We'll see...

Jan

Any news on the D&RGW L105? Crossing fingers it comes to fruition. 

How about a fleet of U Boats?

Norm

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

I would love a U.S.R.A. 2-10-2 in PRR

Are you asking for the 1919 as-built N2s, or the 1923 rebuild of all of the N2s to N2sa that added the Belpaire firebox?  Since I model the late 40s, if they did another big PRR steamer I personally would want a N2sa.  The N2sa made it into the 50s. 

I was excited about the upcoming L&N FA-2 offering by 3rd Rail. Ordered one, then they announced the L&N FA-2 would be L&N's 1960's paint scheme. So much for a transition era L&N FA-2 offering.

TM Terry posted:

I was excited about the upcoming L&N FA-2 offering by 3rd Rail. Ordered one, then they announced the L&N FA-2 would be L&N's 1960's paint scheme. So much for a transition era L&N FA-2 offering.

That project is well into next year at this point.  Nothing has been set in stone for the FA-2 project.  I would think it is likely we will do the early scheme for L&N.  Scott takes his best guess with photos or other artwork to start.  Send him an email on your interest as others would likely prefer the same scheme. 

Right now 3rd Rail is knee deep in finishing E5 & E6s while also getting heavily into the F3 project.  Geeps will be next.  FA's likely after that if orders come through.

E1A and E1B.

So GG1 4877 posted:

TM Terry posted:

I was excited about the upcoming L&N FA-2 offering by 3rd Rail. Ordered one, then they announced the L&N FA-2 would be L&N's 1960's paint scheme. So much for a transition era L&N FA-2 offering.

That project is well into next year at this point.  Nothing has been set in stone for the FA-2 project.  I would think it is likely we will do the early scheme for L&N.  Scott takes his best guess with photos or other artwork to start.  Send him an email on your interest as others would likely prefer the same scheme. 

Right now 3rd Rail is knee deep in finishing E5 & E6s while also getting heavily into the F3 project.  Geeps will be next.  FA's likely after that if orders come through.

So the GP7 and GP9 will be produced before Alco FA’s?

MR-150 posted:

So the GP7 and GP9 will be produced before Alco FA’s?

That is my current understanding based on the rate of orders coming in.  Sales are doing well on the GP7/9s while the FAs are a little behind.  They'll both happen.  It just always depends on when orders at any given time. 

Jonathan/GG1 4877,

Any update on your current plans for the change in F3 Phase production.  I've ordered a full PRR ABA set based on your email stating they are going to be Ph II.  Thanks.

Ron,

Yes, the PRR F3 will be phase II.  We will be reviewing the first round of factory drawings this weekend at Scott's office just after he gets back from his latest trip to China.  There is a lot to review!  I have my order in for an AB in PRR myself.

GG1 4877 posted:

TM Terry posted:

I was excited about the upcoming L&N FA-2 offering by 3rd Rail. Ordered one, then they announced the L&N FA-2 would be L&N's 1960's paint scheme. So much for a transition era L&N FA-2 offering.

That project is well into next year at this point.  Nothing has been set in stone for the FA-2 project.  I would think it is likely we will do the early scheme for L&N.  Scott takes his best guess with photos or other artwork to start.  Send him an email on your interest as others would likely prefer the same scheme. 

I had ordered the L&N FA-2 when the initial announcement was made. The drawing on their website showed the transition era colors. A couple months later the drawing was replaced with a photo of the 1960’s paint scheme. I called and canceled my order.

I will get back on board when I feel assured that the transition era paint scheme is one of the L&N FA-2’s being offered.

GG1 4877 posted:

Ron,

Yes, the PRR F3 will be phase II.  We will be reviewing the first round of factory drawings this weekend at Scott's office just after he gets back from his latest trip to China.  There is a lot to review!  I have my order in for an AB in PRR myself.

I have some F3’s in order when will we see delivery,thanks

My wish list (for now):

Steam: Erie K5

Diesels: GP30 and SW1

GGD passenger cars: Erie Stillwell coaches

Who wouldn't want one of the beauties :-)

MR-150 posted:

I have some F3’s in order when will we see delivery,thanks

Scott will know more than I would.  E6s are in progress so I'm just guessing that the end of the year is a reasonable time frame. 

jonnyspeed posted:

GGD passenger cars: Erie Stillwell coaches

Hmmm.... I just bought a book that has the plans for those along with all the mid Atlantic RR suburban coaches except for the CNJ standard coach which was the one I was looking for!   

I would guess a hard sell to get the numbers for such a unique car in anything but brass, but who knows?

GG1 4877 posted:

MR-150 posted:

I have some F3’s in order when will we see delivery,thanks

Scott will know more than I would.  E6s are in progress so I'm just guessing that the end of the year is a reasonable time frame. 

jonnyspeed posted:

GGD passenger cars: Erie Stillwell coaches

Hmmm.... I just bought a book that has the plans for those along with all the mid Atlantic RR suburban coaches except for the CNJ standard coach which was the one I was looking for!   

I would guess a hard sell to get the numbers for such a unique car in anything but brass, but who knows?

Scott liked the Stillwell idea AND I posted a poll on the 2 rail Facebook group and after just 2 days 11 people would purchase 1-9 cars and 2 would purchase 10+.

Cool!  Modernized or as delivered?

Hozabout Reading standard suburban coaches to go behind the Weaver G1/G2 or the SGL G3?

E1a E1b yes defiantly       but Kim Jong-un's bullet proof train ????? its current history 

Cotton Belt 819 also Santa Fe TK tankcars like the PRB series from years ago.

Agree!  E1 and E1b..... and later E2....  Would be nice to be possible for having an example of each in the line of E series motive power.

As for the Frisco and connecting line, the QA&P:   Many lines ran the same engines in that period of the early 20th century.  To have some available in a choice of lines, such as....   4-4-0 Americans in correct detail and paint for the QA&P...……. 4-6-0  in correct for QA&P/Frisco/T&P        2-10-0  Decapods for the same lines as mentioned.    In fact, to have a choice of popular and often used engines on Short Line Rails, and anyone produce passenger/freight cars also correct for such, even undecorated so they can be detailed specific to any Short Line.

I know, it can be a tall order for any company.  But, to allow modelers to have representation of the many Short Lines in our country.  Many of the large, and too often modeled, major railroads were at times dependent upon the Short Lines.

Jesse   TCA   12-68275

I would still LOVE to see Scott make an accurate N&W hopper - either HL / H9 2 bays or H2 / H2a 3 bay in plastic to go along with the Y6's from a few years ago:  

GG1 4877 posted:

Cool!  Modernized or as delivered?

Either, or both

FYI, The count on FB is now 15 votes for 1-9 cars and 3 votes for 10+ cars in 2R.

A scale transfer caboose

I would definitely be in for a couple of E1A’s. 

CSX Troy posted:

I would still LOVE to see Scott make an accurate N&W hopper - either HL / H9 2 bays or H2 / H2a 3 bay in plastic to go along with the Y6's from a few years ago:  

       

You can find the mondo-heavy Atlas HL/H9 cars, likely on ebay, or elsewhere. The 3-bay cars are only available in brass, from (my experience) Precision and KTM. If you're really lucky you may find one of these painted and decaled...why, you ask? Because only Champ made decals for them (H2a).
If someone had produced the cars in plastique I would have bought several..I'm filled up, after years of looking & bidding.

rex desilets posted:

CSX Troy posted:

I would still LOVE to see Scott make an accurate N&W hopper - either HL / H9 2 bays or H2 / H2a 3 bay in plastic to go along with the Y6's from a few years ago:  

       

You can find the mondo-heavy Atlas HL/H9 cars, likely on ebay, or elsewhere. The 3-bay cars are only available in brass, from (my experience) Precision and KTM. If you're really lucky you may find one of these painted and decaled...why, you ask? Because only Champ made decals for them (H2a).
If someone had produced the cars in plastique I would have bought several..I'm filled up, after years of looking & bidding.

And the H2 were leased to the PRR as well. I am surprised that Atlas O and/ or Weaver models and/ or MTH didn't make an accurate H2.

Jonathan;

Speaking of being knee deep (btw my favorite brewery) in E6s, is there any chance they will be ready for delivery at O Scale West?

Allan

Rich Yoder made some nice N&W hoppers in brass about 10 years ago.  They were quite expensive and never show up for sale.

Norm

Norm posted:

Rich Yoder made some nice N&W hoppers in brass about 10 years ago.  They were quite expensive and never show up for sale.

Norm

I forgot about these. As I told Rich a few moons ago, his products are indeed exquisite models, but the price (for me) rules out anything more than a one-off or rare prototype...

Instead of making a  locomotive that was built for only one railroad, I would like to see manufacturers build a compliment of USRA locos that all the rail lines owned.  Maybe a stock 0-6-0, 0-8-0, 2-8-0, 2-10-0, OR 2-8-2. It would nice to have these also done in undecorated so we can decal them for our own favorite line. Then a larger number of us can have these on our layouts in the road we model instead of having to deal with unwanted road names. The HO people have been doing this for years that's why HO is so big. You can model your favorite road and get a locomotive livery without having to settle.

Allan E posted:

Jonathan;

Speaking of being knee deep (btw my favorite brewery) in E6s, is there any chance they will be ready for delivery at O Scale West?

Allan

Allan,

When I last spoke to Scott just before he left for York, he told me that it looks like the E5/6 run will leave the factory in May.  Give it a month on the water along with customs and it sounds like a June delivery for these.  Wish I could make O Scale West!  Not in the cards this year. 

I've enjoyed a few Knee Deep brews myself!

I have no interest personally, but how about Battleship Gondolas built for the Virginian and Norfolk & Western?  Would look great behind the EL2b.  Order them by the 100 for a prototypical consist!

GG1 4877 posted:

Allan E posted:

Jonathan;

Speaking of being knee deep (btw my favorite brewery) in E6s, is there any chance they will be ready for delivery at O Scale West?

Allan

Allan,

When I last spoke to Scott just before he left for York, he told me that it looks like the E5/6 run will leave the factory in May.  Give it a month on the water along with customs and it sounds like a June delivery for these.  Wish I could make O Scale West!  Not in the cards this year. 

I've enjoyed a few Knee Deep brews myself!

Jonathan;

Cheers!

Allan

I would be very interested in Southern 4501, especially in the present day appearance, but I'm sure there would be a lot of demand for the excursion green version.

 Here is another beautiful train

Canadian Pacific F2a Jubilee and 5 car tuscan colour consist

  Al

third rail posted:

Instead of making a  locomotive that was built for only one railroad, I would like to see manufacturers build a compliment of USRA locos that all the rail lines owned.  Maybe a stock 0-6-0, 0-8-0, 2-8-0, 2-10-0, OR 2-8-2. It would nice to have these also done in undecorated so we can decal them for our own favorite line. Then a larger number of us can have these on our layouts in the road we model instead of having to deal with unwanted road names. The HO people have been doing this for years that's why HO is so big. You can model your favorite road and get a locomotive livery without having to settle.

I made a similar suggestion melgar_comment  earlier in this thread but no one has expressed agreement. It seems to me that everyone wants their favorite locomotive to be selected but, unless it's from a major railroad, it doesn't generate enough support. There were 12 USRA locomotive designs ranging from switchers to articulateds, to which 1856 locomotives were built while USRA was in existence and 3251 copies were made afterwards. USRA and USRA-derived designs ran on 97 railroads. It should be possible to build basic tooling to produce brass or die cast models with accurate prototypical details for many actual locomotives. This approach would also be more likely to generate sufficient orders for cost-effective production. And, for me, models of smaller locomotives would be just as welcome as larger ones.

MELGAR

E1A'S would be awesome