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im in the design process for building a turn table for o scale. it would be able to be constructed to be any size. as many or as few stops as needed. it would be very user friendly. operating by analog. im just wondering who would be interested in such a turntable? p.s. would be able to be operated by dcs aiu. and any ideas for features would be nice. fully custom built. looking at a cost of 600 a piece depending on size and stops.
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Charlie, I think its a great idea to attempt to build an operating turntable, however, for what its worth, I would buy a Millhouse TT, with TMCC Control. You, in the long run would be $$$$ ahead. If you plan on running a Big Boy, or a small Switch Engine, the Millhouse TT runs smooth and is going to be a Real Focal Point of Interest on Your Railroad.  The new MTH Engines, and the New Lionel Engines are fun to run and if you are trying to save money making your own turntable, this is why I recommend getting a precision made TT.  Do not be mad at me, this is just what I would do.  Good Luck, and Happy Railroading

Turntable project slideshow.  Have fun with your project.  Click on the underlined phrase to link.

Parts list.

Parts List from Diamond Scale.  Diamond Scale is under new ownership since I bought my parts in May 2007.
MK-111 turntable drive kit (1)
DT-09  turntable dolly trucks, (1) pair (not available) Dolly trucks were fabricated.
CB-30  turntable control cab (1) may not be required if using the Bowser 7902 bridge detail kit.  Bowser turntable parts and detail kits are no longer available.
AK-104 Turntable Arch Kit Angled  (1) (not available).
WG-9   Worm and Drive Gear (Boston Gear 1049G) 7/16" bore. (1)required.
WS-87  3/16" X 6" Worm gear shaft (1)required.
B-187  3/16" ID Bronze Bushings (2) required.
SC-187 3/16" ID Shaft Collar (2) required.
B-437  7/16" ID Bronze Bushings (2) required
SC-437 7/16" ID Shaft Collar (2) required.
US-1   3/16" X 1/8" universal drive.  (1)
 
Bowser Trains
#7902  O Gauge Bridge detail kit.
#79417 handrail post.  An Additional (20) were required.  Bowser Turntables and detail part kits are no longer available.
 
Kaplar Lumber.
KP1186-OP24 Scale 10" X 12" .208" X .250" match up to Atlas railroad ties.
KP1126-OP24 Scale 2" X 10" .042" X .208"  addition deck material
 
Plastruct.
#90423 ABS Ladder
 
Evergreen Scale Models.
#146 .040" x .125" Styrene Strips.
#9077 .015" Clear Styrene sheet
#9040 .040" White Styrene sheet
 
K&S Engineering.
#91066   1/8" brass angle X .022" X 36"
#92098   3/16" brass bar X 12"
 
Crow River Products.
#O-56 Scale Electric Winch Kit. (2) required
 
Atlas.
#6056 40" flex track curved pit rail.
#6058 40" rigid track Bridge rails
#6094 Track Screws.
 
MSC Industrial Supply/ J&L Industrial Supply.
#607Z Bearing  7 X 19 X 6 mm bearing. (4) required.
 
Micro Fasteners.
RMB0212 2-56 X 3/4" brass round head screws.
 
Krylon paint.
#2323  River Rock spray paint
#1602 Ultra Flat Black spray paint
 
MinWax stain.
#224 Special Walnut. deck stain
 
Sherwin Williams primer/sealer.
#141-1699 Preprite ProBlock Alkyd Primer/Sealer in spray cans.
 
Floquil/Polyscale acrylic paint.
#F414137 Grimy Black
#F414329 Railroad Tie Brown
#F404076 Coach Green
 
Aluminum Ring and bridge sides were fabricated at a local fab shop 1/4" Aluminum sheet.
7/16" drive shaft and "T" bar were fabricated locally.
4' X 8' MDO board local lumber supply.
Premium grade frame lumber  local lumber supply.
Miscellaneous hardware and framing screws local supply/hardware.
Construction adhesive local supply.
Wire and connectors, from my truck.  
 
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I used a Diamond Scale tt years ago on a now dismantled layout.

 

If you want to build one, go for it.  But, I'm reminded of the work I put into having a '65 Mustang repainted by a buddy and all the prep work I put into it.  My brother had his '65 Mustang repainted by a good body shop. 

 

My paint job was crap compared to his.  And the body shop owner, who I knew, told me I should have spent the many hours prepping the car for a bad paint job by flipping burghers and using the money I earned to pay a pro for a good job--that advice has always stuck with me.

Originally Posted by mwb:
Originally Posted by Mike CT:

Turntable project slideshow.  Have fun with your project.  Click on the underlined phrase to link.

That's quite a lot more turntable than I might consider as well as one that's also far more modern than I am considering.  I'm looking more for a far earlier one not unlike a gallows style turntable that would service a more rural turn of the century line.

Diamond Scale had done a gallows turntable in HO but not O.   Contact me via my e-mail Martin I have a lot of Diamond Scale parts.

For $600, I will be interested in a BB size TT, should be able to run on DCS, Legacy, TMMC, manually and DC power....Just dreaming!! OH, Fully assembled and weathered!!!
 
Originally Posted by charlie512621:
im in the design process for building a turn table for o scale. it would be able to be constructed to be any size. as many or as few stops as needed. it would be very user friendly. operating by analog. im just wondering who would be interested in such a turntable? p.s. would be able to be operated by dcs aiu. and any ideas for features would be nice. fully custom built. looking at a cost of 600 a piece depending on size and stops.

 

Originally Posted by charlie512621:
the biggest issue I see with all of turntables is that none of them are able to work with mth dcs system. I run a full dcs layout I do not use tmcc. I can make one that has full positional control with the dcs system. and I can build it any size I want.

Hi Charlie,

 

You can run our turntables with the MTH remote but it would still have to use TMCC like you can with TMCC engines. Problem is that MTH's software isn't open source. That is why manufactures use TMCC since it is open source.  If you decide to not build your own take a look at our tables and index system. very flexible to configure to your track plan. Take care.

Originally Posted by charlie512621:
the biggest issue I see with all of turntables is that none of them are able to work with mth dcs system. I run a full dcs layout I do not use tmcc. I can make one that has full positional control with the dcs system. and I can build it any size I want.

(1.)We have used this Turntable for the Fort Pitt Highrailer layout since it was made 2007. We did an upgrade to DCS a few years ago for the whole layout.  The TT and RH (Round House) modules, as wired, worked with DCS, but it required a separate TIU for these modules because of the 13 plus engines.  It requires (2) PH 180 Lionel Transformers in Parallel to power these two modules, separate from the rest of the modular display.

(2.) In rush current, on start-up, of 13+ engines, at one time, is the reason for the parallel power.

(3.) Control of the small 12 volt DC motor is with (2) momentary, center off, momentary Double pole cross over switches. Switch location is either side of the TT.

(4.)There is also a small variable resistor to vary voltage/speed of the turntable drive.  

(5.)Track alignment is done by sight. Site alignment is done using the switch to jog the bridge to final position.

(6.)The bridge is removed from the pit, boxed, and shipped separately when used. Two screws and the bridge is out.

Bridge ready to ship.

 

Y-module and TT.

And the Korber house adds to it.

Power supply

Control, clockwise/counter-clockwise, and variable speed bottom of picture. Similar switch and variable control on my layout Diamond Scale TT.

 

Last edited by Mike CT
Originally Posted by Pingman:

I used a Diamond Scale tt years ago on a now dismantled layout.

 

If you want to build one, go for it.  But, I'm reminded of the work I put into having a '65 Mustang repainted by a buddy and all the prep work I put into it.  My brother had his '65 Mustang repainted by a good body shop. 

 

My paint job was crap compared to his.  And the body shop owner, who I knew, told me I should have spent the many hours prepping the car for a bad paint job by flipping burghers and using the money I earned to pay a pro for a good job--that advice has always stuck with me.

That's why I stay away from kits.  When I looked at the one we wanted to add to the layout, with its "thousands" pieces in the box, I gave it to a model builder.  Cost a pretty penny way more than the kit alone, but came back looking better than I could have done.  Mine would have been the crap paint job. 

(Think Dagwood's woodworking creations from his workshop.)

I will use dc power prolly 12 volt since it common. my prototype is months out. it may be able to run on tmcc if there is a way for it to close a simple switch. my idea is that the tt on the market now are so expensive for ones that can operate with a bigboy. im hoping for a cheaper alternative that with work with many systems. when I get my operational prototype built I think you will see at the ease at which it can be added to any system.

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