6250 Wire Routing on Collector Truck

That is were it goes, on the sideframe with the sideframe screw holding it.

It seems to me I have seen these attached to one of the brush plate mounting screws,  I think the wire from the pick up roller was routed thru it,  But item isn't really needed...

Marty

Chuck - Well, wherever it goes, I remember it was a tight fit. And the clamp was really squished down onto the wire, so it makes sense that it would go under the black, taper head machine screw that secures the side frame to the truck - between the screw head and the side frame specifically. I even saw a photo on flea-bay which barely showed the part exactly where you said it should be, assuming anything on the bay is still in it's OEM configuration 

That said, the silicone wire I'm using is a heavier gauge than the original stuff, which presents even a tighter fit, so I guess I'll just stick the wire clamp in my spare parts bag and route the wire using common sense and a sticky block.

Martin - It definitely wasn't the wire from the pickup roller, that was red.

Thanks ya'll, I think I'll go tackle the motor truck now.

Only a few of 2023 style locos that have passed through my hands had that brass wire guide. I have no way of knowing whether they were removed, or left off at the factory.

I looked at my spare 2023 trucks last evening. none of them had that clip.

C W Burfle posted:

Only a few of 2023 style locos that have passed through my hands had that brass wire guide. I have no way of knowing whether they were removed, or left off at the factory.

I looked at my spare 2023 trucks last evening. none of them had that clip.

I gave it one more shot, no go ... no room! I believe that was the right place but I'm amazed that they squished that in there like that. I couldn't really see any evidence of where the brass might have been hitting the frame underside. I'm sure the wire would be fine without the clip, but Mr. Neat N Tidy here, had to add a sticky block and some judiciously placed tye wraps.

Oh well, NEXT time I'll take more digital pics - the film is cheap!

Thanks to all for responding!

Do you have a spring between the truck and the frame?
It sits over the raised boss (where the truck mounting screw goes).

I was finally able to get to Olsens web site and look at the die cast alco page,  and see there should be what is called a wire crimp on the top of the brush plate that the coupler wire goes through:

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/locos/loc2023c.pdf

There is also one on the frame...

Marty

CW, why are you talking Alcos, It is a Seaboard GM switcher. Geopeg, There should not be any room issues. The wire clamp should face out. Are you trying to install it backwards?

You are right, sort of lost track,but the switcher is the same:

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/locos/loc622p3.pdf

Marty

CW, why are you talking Alcos, It is a Seaboard GM switcher. Geopeg, There should not be any room issues. The wire clamp should face out. Are you trying to install it backwards?

Brain fart.
The trucks are fairly similar.

Yes, I can see that happening. The truck blocks are basically the same. The difference there is the 6250 switcher uses a truck mount wire clamp, the Alcos did not. But the service manual overlooked it and shows the one on the motor

Ok, I'm really busy with moving my daughters stuff right now, but when I took a break and studied both Olsen pages you guys posted, I believe I see the Problem! I put the grounding spring on TOP of the frame (between the shoulder screw and the frame) instead of UNDER it! So that would explain why there was no room for the wire clip between the frame and the bolster! I'll give that mistake a fixin' later this evening when everybody else's day is done. I'll let ya know! Amateurs!

It's amazing how well things work when you put them back together correctly. Takes a village to raise a repair tech I guess 

Thanks ya'll!

Now to go start another thread on repairing electromagnetic couplers....