New Williams By Bachmann Annoucements Attached Taking Preorders Now!!!!
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New Williams By Bachmann Annoucements Attached Taking Preorders Now!!!!
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Charlie with the scoop.
Stu
I'm gonna have to pick up a 70 ton Loco
Now THAT is interesting...I'll bet the 70 tonner uses the 44 ton switcher frame/powertrain.
Any suggestions for passenger cars to go with the Amtrak California locomotive?
MTH should time a release of another run of Amtrak California bi-levels.
Love the Tropicana switcher! Great idea. The 44 ton ought to be painted in Cargill, Morton Salt, etc.
There is smoke at Williams afterall...hopefully this means fire with more new products and some missing items.
VistaDomeScott posted:Any suggestions for passenger cars to go with the Amtrak California locomotive?
Wait and hope WBB issues matching cars. Makes sense that they would.
MTH should time a release of another run of Amtrak California bi-levels.
In all likelihood, the colors wouldn't match the WBB engines.
Looks like it might be a nice model. Is there anywhere to get more details, or to see what it looks like, besides that tiny photo on the preorder page?
YES!! A 70 tonner! I used to run one back in the 70's. I'll take it!
One 70 tonner for me. Washington and Old Dominion would be great....
Well I see the link. Juice Train for me. The Rutland one looks good though.
Any idea how soon the F59PHI's will be available for purchase??
Fred
I wish the 70 toner was 2 rail. SP looks good to me.
I can see one repainted for the Pittsburgh, Allegheny and McKees Rocks Railroad!
Charlie
What does "999 in stock" mean when it also says "*Pre-Order*"??
Does that mean when they are in stock you will have 999 of them?
That sounds like FAKE NEWS or ALTERNATE FACTS?? LOL
it is a default for preorders it goes to 1000 units
I hope they eventually make the 70-Tonners in the original Norfolk Southern Railway and Southern Railway schemes for us modelers below the Mason-Dixon Line!
Last I saw you could pick up a Bachmann HO scale 70 tonner for around $59. But they want almost $500 list for this Williams O scale model??? Sheeesh, no wonder this hobby is in danger of receding, what with these millionaire-hobbiers' prices!!
Nahhh Williams, I'll stick with the older K-Line S2 diesel switchers you can obtain from ebay, usually for $75 to $125. These K-Line S2's may not have sound or DCC, but on my 3-rail 027 layout they operate very well, and they look just like the 70 tonners. {-Which IMO have a plain and simple [and somewhat boring?] body style anyway..!}
Skip
Greywoulf posted:Last I saw you could pick up a Bachmann HO scale 70 tonner for around $59. But they want almost $500 list for this Williams O scale model??? Sheeesh, no wonder this hobby is in danger of receding, what with these millionaire-hobbiers' prices!!
Nahhh Williams, I'll stick with the older K-Line S2 diesel switchers you can obtain from ebay, usually for $75 to $125. These K-Line S2's may not have sound or DCC, but on my 3-rail 027 layout they operate very well, and they look just like the 70 tonners. {-Which IMO have a plain and simple [and somewhat boring?] body style anyway..!}
Skip
It's been said that historically, Bachmann sets MSRP's high to give its dealers more room to discount. This was known all the way to the beginning of Bachmann's involvement with Williams.
In this particular announcement, the pre-order price for the Bachmann 70-tonner is half of what you quoted for the list.
---PCJ
Greywoulf posted:Last I saw you could pick up a Bachmann HO scale 70 tonner for around $59. But they want almost $500 list for this Williams O scale model??? Sheeesh, no wonder this hobby is in danger of receding, what with these millionaire-hobbiers' prices!!
Nahhh Williams, I'll stick with the older K-Line S2 diesel switchers you can obtain from ebay, usually for $75 to $125. These K-Line S2's may not have sound or DCC, but on my 3-rail 027 layout they operate very well, and they look just like the 70 tonners. {-Which IMO have a plain and simple [and somewhat boring?] body style anyway..!}
Skip
This is Charlie's price! $249.99 not $500
I have Rich Yoder's 70 ton. Paid less than $500 and it's brass.
Dick
Does this 70 ton have the same junky plastic handrails as the 44-ton? Those are so fragile that it's almost impossible to work on one of those without breaking them. Then Williams has the audacity to charge $26 for the replacement set of handrails, a parts set that must have cost at least 25 cents to mold!
The MTH 44-ton at least has handrails that will survive longer than a month or two of running and/or handling.
gunrunnerjohn posted:Does this 70 ton have the same junky plastic handrails as the 44-ton? Those are so fragile that it's almost impossible to work on one of those without breaking them. Then Williams has the audacity to charge $26 for the replacement set of handrails, a parts set that must have cost at last 25 cents to mold!
The MTH 44-ton at least has handrails that will survive longer than a month or two of running and/or handling.
Agreed John. Those hand rails are terrible.
Any updates on the 70 ton Tropicana switcher by Williams By Bachmann?
Yes, long delay but tooling is done and samples were at York. Expect them in Aug.
Charlienassau posted:Yes, long delay but tooling is done and samples were at York. Expect them in Aug.
There were a couple comments above about the quality of the handrails. Did you get a chance to take a look?
Thank you.
The plastic handrails are one of the singular reasons I wouldn't buy one of these. The ones on the 44-Tonner are total junk! It's virtually impossible to take one apart without damaging at least one of the handrails!
That's a bummer on the plastic handrails. This is the first I've heard about a problem with them.
I wonder if the 70 ton will have a scale-width hood? I remember the WbB 44 tonners as being over-width, scale-wise. I thought that was the main complaint with them.
Not necessarily a deal breaker for me though. If I decide I want one, I'll get it. I can always scratch-build new rails out of brass or steel. And as far as any over-width hood goes, I'd just have to learn to live with it. I'm just a "little" over-width myself, ya' know.
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