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You guys never know, maybe with the loss of ERR will come the introduction of the Legacy upgrade. Now that would be sweet. ERR is nice, Legacy is better. I’m going to order parts for my 2 customers that want them then I’ll wait n see. 

Im really excited to run my Santa Fe PAs soon and do some long range shooting wile out at the farm. Been done time since I took a 700 yard shot. 

Its spring, get out and enjoy the nice weather figure out the end of days next winter

sdmann posted:

We will be announcing a select few road names for a second run based on unfilled back orders and popularity. 

Thanks for all your support in this and the other projects. 

Cheers,

Scott Mann

Scott;

If you are taking requests, I would love a dummy A or B unit for my beautiful green New Haven. Of course, if you only make a few powered units, I am afraid that, despite my best efforts to contain my purchasing impulses, I’d have to order one any way!!!

Thanks.

God is in heaven and it’s the end of days for ERR. Whoa is us that our biggest problem in life is that the company that makes expensive parts for our even more expensive toys is kaput. We all need to consider ourselves blessed that our lives are this awesome. First world problems!!!!

DCC is the NMRA standard control system and the control system (the signal and how it is used) is open source free to anyone who wants to use it.   There are at least 5 mfg of throttle control systems and 6-8 mfgs of decoders (receivers) for locos.    And most of the mfg do not make model trains, only electronics.     There seem to be at least a dozen or more independent dealers that sell and install the equipment in locos.

So if you use this system, you should never have to worry about the single source supplier shutting you off.   

Apples55 posted:

Just saw this on 3rd Rail’s website...

They aren’t doing a B unit for my green New Haven from the first run, but they are doing another A unit... and a D&H A unit...

There's a reason for that.  Neither New Haven nor Delaware & Hudson ever owned even one PB1 -- only  PA1 cab units.  Sunset/3rd Rail  does not produce fictional "never was" diesels.  You'll have to look to MTH or Lionel for D&H or NYNH&H PB1's.

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Number 90 posted:
Apples55 posted:

Just saw this on 3rd Rail’s website...

They aren’t doing a B unit for my green New Haven from the first run, but they are doing another A unit... and a D&H A unit...

There's a reason for that.  Neither New Haven nor Delaware & Hudson ever owned even one PB1 -- only  PA1 cab units.  Sunset/3rd Rail  does not produced fictional "never was" diesels.  You'll have to look to MTH or Lionel for D&H or NYNH&H PB1's.

Thanks for the info, Tom - I learn things every day on this Forum. You will have to forgive me - I am as far from a rivet counter as you can get   

I will probably go for another NH green and a single D&H A... got to give it a bit more thought.

I will probably go for another NH green and a single D&H A... got to give it a bit more thought.

D&H owned a total of 5 PAs that were purchased in 1967.  4 from ATSF (59, 60, 62, and 68) that became D&H 16, 17, 18, & 19.  The 5th PA was purchased from NH for parts. 

Leadership at the D&H wanted a premier passenger train during a time when everyone else was trying to get rid of them.  It's a great story from the 70's that flies in the face of conventional railroad practices of the time.  The D&H PAs were the first cab units on that railroad.  Sadly Amtrak replaced them with Turboliners in 1977. 

Thanks Bob for correcting my spelling of Harmon's name.

Tell me more about CLW PA's.  I have always thought that the nose was a sand casting.  Were all CLW nose pieces sand castings?  I find the ones that I see have misshapen window openings.  The windshield area just doesn't look good to me.  Look closely at Harmon's GM&O PA around the windshield area.  It appears that he applied and overlay of brass then filed open to the windows to make it much more realistic.

 

Will Ebbert posted:

Can someone send me a link to the 2nd run page? I can't find it. 

Will;

There really isn’t a “2nd run page”. If you go to the 3rd Rail page and click on the PA 2nd run pic in the upper left, it brings you to their order form. Towards the bottom of the page, you will see two lines for the 2nd run offerings. Unfortunately, no pics, but there are pull downs listing the choices.

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Steam guy - the story of these PAs cannot be condensed into a post.  The first ones were done in secret, for Alco, entirely sand cast, then polished, plated, and presented in Warbonnet at the Waldorf Astoria with the real thing, at an Alco party/ceremony.

Some 600 more were produced for O Scalers - Adams did the casting.

 Much later, Bob Smith converterd to lost wax and etchings.  All the noses on his later etched Diesels are lost wax.  Somebody screwed up badly on the PA - it is too short, not tapered, and as you point out, the windshield is about twice as high as it should have been.  The trucks were exquisite, and accurate.

Sunset, Lionel, MTH, and Key have all raised the bar - they are all dead-accurate, when compared to either CLW version.  They are even more accurate than Overland.  Too bad most of them are plastic.  I converted two MTH PAs to metal. 

rdunniii posted:
SANTIAGOP23 posted:

Looks like the RG bumblebee won't be added... Too bad

Guarantee 20 and that will probably change.  That's only 7 ABA sets.

Question, could you or Jonathan say when the 2nd run would be delivered?  Just trying to budget around E6's, E7's and F3's for these.

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