Weaver Replacement Trucks

My experience is that Lionel and MTH trucks make the car sit too high, because the bolster is on the car and not the truck.

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...with-couplers?page=3

Check out above thread.  I ordered some Lionscale trucks from Lionel to try with my Centerline track cleaner car that has the plastic Weaver trucks.

Jim

Weaver trucks I believe sit lower then MTH. I run both plastic and die cast Weaver trucks. I had bought a few two rail cars which I wanted and changed out the wheels for three rail wheels using the same trucks. The BAR car had MTH trucks on it when I bought it. You can see how high the body sits. The second pic shows same car with Weaver trucks under it and a Weaver hopper sitting next to it. Much better .............Paul

MarkStrittmatter posted:

Good afternoon, last October I purchased a Weaver two bay Pennsy coal hopper at York.

I didn't look that close and I wasn't thinking about 2 -Rail Trucks until I got the hopper home and removed it from it's box and discovered it had plastic trucks and plastic wheels, see attached photo's.

My question is will MTH 30-89002, 3 rail trucks attach to this Weaver hopper without a lot of rework to the hopper itself ?

Heading for York on Friday and was going to keep a look out for some replacement trucks for this hopper.

If the MTH 3-rail trucks will work my search will be easy.

Thanks in advance

Hi Mark.MTH trucks aren't a good fit for the Weaver car design without drilling into the chassis. If you just need to 3-rail the hopper, I have spare 3-rail wheels and 3-rail coupler arms for Weaver trucks. Drop me an E-mail with your shipping address and I'll send them out.

Does anyone know what happened to the Weaver dies for their metal truck and couplers?  Is someone else now selling the same product under a different label, or expected to do so soon?

David

From my understanding. The tooling for the trucks was never picked up by anyone. However, and this is third hand info, toward the end Weaver lost his manufacturer and MTH stepped in to manufacture the trucks. So not sure on this last part but pretty sure the tooling for the trucks is out there...Paul

Good evening Matt, thanks for the offer.

I might have found something in my junk box that may just work.

If it doesn't I will be in touch.

Thanks again for the offer.

Also thanks for everyones replies, I didn't realize this Weaver truck issue was a topic discussed in depth before. 

Mark,

I've had great success with ordering Lionscale trucks and mounting them to my Weaver cars.  There is no drilling or modification to the Weaver body needed.  

You will probably need to stretch out the spring that mounts underneath the coupler arm, as the Lionscale trucks have a bad habit of uncoupling.

MTH is starting to make them. 20-89023. 

A friend saw a pair in the flesh and I see theyre on some dealer websites but the number doesnt show on MTH's product locator. 

John H posted:

My experience is that Lionel and MTH trucks make the car sit too high, because the bolster is on the car and not the truck.

Depends on the era of the Lionel (and MTH, I guess) trucks, The modern (model era, not prototype), low-bolster Lionel die-cast trucks can actually sit lower than the Weaver 2/3-rail truck with the 3-rail coupler. Adapting these trucks - and others - can run from simple-stupid to annoying. (I like to convert 2-rail cars - especially brass or old cars - to 3RO; it's a punishment that I apparently think that I deserve.)

Using Weaver trucks/couplers/wheels to go to Hi-rail is the way to go on a Weaver car. They were engineered that way. Apparently the Lionscale trucks will drop in, per some here. Good. And an MTH product, too? Even better.

We need some definitive cross-references and sources; to paraphrase the X-Files: Weaver cars - they're out there. 

AGHRMatt posted:

MarkStrittmatter posted:

Good afternoon, last October I purchased a Weaver two bay Pennsy coal hopper at York.

I didn't look that close and I wasn't thinking about 2 -Rail Trucks until I got the hopper home and removed it from it's box and discovered it had plastic trucks and plastic wheels, see attached photo's.

My question is will MTH 30-89002, 3 rail trucks attach to this Weaver hopper without a lot of rework to the hopper itself ?

Heading for York on Friday and was going to keep a look out for some replacement trucks for this hopper.

If the MTH 3-rail trucks will work my search will be easy.

Thanks in advance

Hi Mark.MTH trucks aren't a good fit for the Weaver car design without drilling into the chassis. If you just need to 3-rail the hopper, I have spare 3-rail wheels and 3-rail coupler arms for Weaver trucks. Drop me an E-mail with your shipping address and I'll send them out.

Matt:  

Do you still have the coupler arm for Weaver? I have a Weaver Hopper WAYNE FEEDS with the LONG coupler arm that is broken.  Would like to find one.  

Thank you.

John

A set of Weaver trucks adapted to a detailed caboose kit.   I used a 10/32 hex nut as a spacer.  The trucks were designed with the three rail coupler attached with the same 2-56 X 1" center screw. 

 John, e mail me on the coupler arms. Not sure what you mean by long. I convert everything to Kadee's. I usually have a good stock of the 3 rail coupler arms in die cast.