Well they are starting the loading operation to move the Ole 576 and her Tender...
I wonder how long it will be before one of the main manufactures will make an "O Gauge" Model for to purchase....?
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Brandy posted:Well they are starting the loading operation to move the Ole 576 and her Tender...
I wonder how long it will be before one of the main manufactures will make an "O Gauge" Model for to purchase....?
I would prefer to wonder how long it will take to raise sufficient funds to overhaul/restore #587 herself. Then, how long it will actually take to complete the work.
Hot Water posted:I would prefer to wonder how long it will take to raise sufficient funds to overhaul/restore #587 herself. Then, how long it will actually take to complete the work.
They aren't restoring 587.
You're the one that said they have an expert crack team of restoration guys.... with all the gracious people around Nashville it shouldn't take long...
Hopefully all goes well and she's on the road in a few years.
steam fan posted:Hot Water posted:I would prefer to wonder how long it will take to raise sufficient funds to overhaul/restore #587 herself. Then, how long it will actually take to complete the work.
They aren't restoring 587.
Really? Then what ARE they going to do with her?
You're the one that said they have an expert crack team of restoration guys.... with all the gracious people around Nashville it shouldn't take long...
That all depends on how fast they can raise the required funds.
Hopefully all goes well and she's on the road in a few years.
OK, but what "road"?
Hot Water posted:steam fan posted:Hot Water posted:I would prefer to wonder how long it will take to raise sufficient funds to overhaul/restore #587 herself. Then, how long it will actually take to complete the work.
They aren't restoring 587.
Really? Then what ARE they going to do with her?
You're the one that said they have an expert crack team of restoration guys.... with all the gracious people around Nashville it shouldn't take long...
That all depends on how fast they can raise the required funds.
Hopefully all goes well and she's on the road in a few years.
OK, but what "road"?
Hot Water, do you mean 576? The 587 is in Ravenna, KY and has been the subject of a lot of big railroad news recently. The 587 is owned by the Indiana Transportation Museum, but is currently under the care of the Kentucky Steam Heritage Corporation. The 576 IS being restored by the group in Nashville, the 587 is also being restored, but not by the Nashville folks.
TrainMan1225 posted:Hot Water posted:steam fan posted:Hot Water posted:I would prefer to wonder how long it will take to raise sufficient funds to overhaul/restore #587 herself. Then, how long it will actually take to complete the work.
They aren't restoring 587.
Really? Then what ARE they going to do with her?
You're the one that said they have an expert crack team of restoration guys.... with all the gracious people around Nashville it shouldn't take long...
That all depends on how fast they can raise the required funds.
Hopefully all goes well and she's on the road in a few years.
OK, but what "road"?
Hot Water, do you mean 576? The 587 is in Ravenna, KY and has been the subject of a lot of big railroad news recently. The 587 is owned by the Indiana Transportation Museum, but is currently under the care of the Kentucky Steam Heritage Corporation. The 576 IS being restored by the group in Nashville, the 587 is also being restored, but not by the Nashville folks.
Yes, I meant #576, and NOT 587. I made a typo, however this whole thread is indeed about #576 anyway.
Hot Water posted:TrainMan1225 posted:Hot Water posted:Yes, I meant #576, and NOT 587. I made a typo, however this whole thread is indeed about #576 anyway.
You're the first one to correct someone when they are wrong or make a "typo".... thought you might like a dose of your own medicine. How's it taste?? 
steam fan posted:Hot Water posted:TrainMan1225 posted:Hot Water posted:Yes, I meant #576, and NOT 587. I made a typo, however this whole thread is indeed about #576 anyway.
You're the first one to correct someone when they are wrong or make a "typo".... thought you might like a dose of your own medicine. How's it taste??
Well, for what it's worth smart guy, I try to correct/educate technical errors, and NOT simple spelling or typo errors! EXCUUUUUUUSE ME!
Thanks - you made me lol. I needed that this morning. Cheers.
The Nashville Community is a very giving and gracious one, and we have a number of high profile musicians and singers, who are well known for their charitable giving. Train songs are also an important aspect of our musical heritage, especially country music. The head of this restoration project is a very knowledgeable, skilled and experienced steam restoration specialist, who worked on both the restoration of the 4501 and 611. He is an NS employee, and is affiliated with TVRM in Chattanooga, TN. He is also a qualified engineer and has run 611. We have some very influential folks on the Nashville Steam Preservation Society Board, and I have no doubt this historic, Nashville-designed engine will steam again in the next couple of years!
The Dixie Class locos, including the 576, were designed by then NC&StL Superintendant of Machinery, Clarence M. Darden, and built by ALCO in Schenectady, NY. The 576 and her brethren gave very dependable service during the WW II years, during which they were delivered.
Many of us have been involved in previous attempts to restore this fine engine, and we are very excited to finally see it leave its resting place after 66 years! It is in remarkably fine condition after almost seven decades in the elements. This move is being celebrated by many Nashvillians, and NOT just the railfan community! We are very elated! 
I visited Centennial Park yesterday, and the 576 is loaded on the special Mammoet heavy duty low boy hydraulic hauler, and is ready to move Sunday between 8-9 AM. This transport will be moving about 5 MPH or less (walking speed), so proper caution can be exercised regarding overhead traffic signals and utility lines on the route to the Nashville and Western crossing at 12th Ave. North, where the engine will be off loaded. The tender will be loaded on and hauled by a conventional low boy tractor/trailer. I have been told that Trains.com will be streaming the engine move event tomorrow, and Trains editor, Jim Wrinn, will be present. An exciting day for Nashville!
NOTE: The CSX, over whose rails the 576 will partially travel to the Tennessee Central Railway Museum for restoration, will require a working brake test on the locomotive and tender before it can be moved over their main line to the interchange with the Nashville and Eastern in Melrose, just south of Nashville.
MISSION COMPLETED! The 576 and its tender have been successfully transported to the Nashville and Western rails here in North Nashville earlier this morning! Those Mammoet heavy lifting professionals completed their task in a safe and efficient manner. There was quite a turnout of Nashvillians in a cold drizzle to watch this momentous event. Jim Wrinn of Trains magazine live streamed the event from the Nashville Steam Preservation Society website.
Is that video available?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LONsm2ijLgk From Railroading In America.
Just visited the site (12th Ave. North & Herman St.) where the 576 will be carefull unloaded by means of hydraulic jacks inserted under the I-beams beneath the pilot and trailing trucks onto the N&W rails. The tender will be similarly unloaded and set on its Commonwealth six-wheel roller bearing trucks. The engine and tender will later be recoupled and the brake system overhauled to comply with CSX regs before it can be moved over their rails. Some of the side rods will also be removed prior to transport.
I cannot convey in words the palpable excitement here in Nashville for its hometown "citizen", the NC&StL 576, to once again be on live rails, and after its full restoration, to pull excursion trains! We are beyond elated!
A special THANK YOU to the NSPS Project Director, Shane Meador and his entire volunteer staff, the N&W and CSX teams, the entire Mammoet crew, and to Jim Wrinn, editor in chief of TRAINS magazine, for the real time streaming video earlier this morning and the Go Pro footage (to be posted tomorrow).
PLEASE visit the Nashville Steam Preservation Society website for more information: nashvillesteam.org
I should also mention a Mammoet team also transported an original NC&StL turntable bridge from the Atlanta yard, which was designed to accomodate the length of the NC&StL "Dixie" Class 4-8-4's, to its new home on the Nashville and Eastern in Watertown, TN. The NERR has an existing wye at Southern Junction, near Hermitage Ave., just east of the Tennessee Central Railway Museum.
When restored, the 576 will operate excursion trains over the Nashville and Eastern Railroad, which has recently become an R.J. Corman property. The Tennessee Central Railway Museum, located on the NERR, has had a successful excursion operation with diesel power for over 25 years in cooperation with that railroad. Their safety record is enviable with no injuries to either crew or passengers. Future steam operations will obviously require a different skill set for crews and volunteers, and with the help of TVRM expertise in steam operations, this will be accomplished. Terry Bebout is the very capable president and director of the TCRM, and he welcomes the opportunity to house, restore and eventually operate the 576.
The photos of the move are on RailPictures.net today.
Those Mammoet teams are fantastic!
They are setting her on the rails as I type this.
Tinplate Art posted:They are setting her on the rails as I type this.
Have the valves and pistons been removed for the dead-in-tow move on NS?
HOT WATER: That work and the rod removal will be done on the Nashville and Western interchange at 12th Ave. North and Herman Street in the next few weeks. Before CSX will allow it to be towed on their rails, the brake system on both the engine and tender must be completely operative. Both CSX and N&W crews were on hand yesterday when my wife and I visited the site. Shane Meador, the NSPS president and project manager, is coordinating closely with the CSX. There is an element of pride for the CSX as the NC&StL was a predessor road!
The tender trucks are on the rails, but the body is still on the Mammoet low boy trailer. The engine was still jacked up on the I-beams under the pilot and trailing trucks with some wood cribbing in between when we drove by this morning The Mammoet team will gently jack it down to the rails, and remove the cribbing and the I-beams. The engine weight is 175 tons, so things must be done in a safe, coordinated process!
Those Mammoet guys are very impressive and efficient in their work!
The engine rolled easily when it was towed from under its shed at the Park, so the roller bearings are doing their job! Shane's team, with help from some experienced TVRM members, will re-attach the drawbar to connect the tender. It will look good being towed as engine and tender!
Tinplate Art posted:The engine rolled easily when it was towed from under its shed at the Park, so the roller bearings are doing their job!
Except, if they have not already removed the valves & pistons, or disconnected the main rod & valve gear, then both the valves and pistons were moving inside their bores, after having sat for some 60 years. Not a very good idea, in my opinion.
Shane's team, with help from some experienced TVRM members, will re-attach the drawbar to connect the tender. It will look good being towed as engine and tender!
Hot Water posted:Tinplate Art posted:The engine rolled easily when it was towed from under its shed at the Park, so the roller bearings are doing their job!
Except, if they have not already removed the valves & pistons, or disconnected the main rod & valve gear, then both the valves and pistons were moving inside their bores, after having sat for some 60 years. Not a very good idea, in my opinion.
Shane's team, with help from some experienced TVRM members, will re-attach the drawbar to connect the tender. It will look good being towed as engine and tender!
I was wondering that also, as they did not remove/disconnect anything from what I could see in the video.
GENTLEMEN: I am certain everything was properly lubed and it only rolled several yards to be placed on the special Mammoet mover. Shane is a very experienced steam man, having worked on the restoration of both 611 and 4501, and he knows his craft. I have full confidence in his skills and knowledge! There were hundreds of hours of prepping this treasured loco by a staff of skilled volunteers while it was still in place. This was not an unplanned operation by any strerch of the imagination! As mentioned earlier, this loco was in remarkable condition despite its 66 year residence exposed to the elements! For example, the roller bearing fluids upon analysis were in excellent condition. I read somewhere that it had been recently out-shopped before its placement in the park in 1953.
I should mention two Nashville departments of government that contributed greatly to the SAFE and successful move of our special treasure, the 576. These are the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department and the Department of Public Works, without whose EXPERT and professional assistance, the transport of the loco would have been impossible! A SPECIAL THANKS to the dedicated men and women of both agencies!
What really impressed me was CSX agreeing to do the ferry move when the group gets her ready.
Without the generous cooperation and support of Nashville's three local railroads, the CSX, NWRR and NERR, the relocation of the 576 would not have been possible. All of these roads have to work around their existing traffic to accomodate the maintenance necessary to be able to safely move the 576 from the NWRR/CSX interchange tracks over CSX mainline rails to the NERR beltline interchange in Melrose and thence to the TCRM property.
This morning, Kay and I saw the tender shell poised over its six-wheel truck bolsters ready to be jacked down off its I-beams. The engine will probably not be re-united with its tender until the engine running gear and brake work is accomplished.
superwarp1 posted:What really impressed me was CSX agreeing to do the ferry move when the group gets her ready.
Some times good press can go a long way.Maybe their trying to relax a bit.Their pretty well known for being not friendly.When it comes to certain types of locomotives.I say good on CSX.
Perhaps, it is a matter of local pride as the NC&StL was a predessor road of the L&N, and now the CSX. This is a first: an actual LOCAL, hometown steam engine has been returned to live rails for restoration! Johnny Cash once posed with the 576 for a LIFE cover shot! This loco is a Nashville NATIVE so to speak. My friends who are in charge of this operation have spoken well of CSX's assistance.
