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Hi Folks, I need help with the following photo:MU connections ID view
#1: The 27 point trainline jumper was used to control the locomotive from the cab control / power-pack unit.

#2 and #3: The other two jumpers were for the 650 VDC Head End Power system, a system design unique to LIRR. Does anyone know the size of the four individual conductors in LIRR’s positive power trainline? For comparison, Amtrak uses twelve 4/0 (four ought) conductors in their 480 VAC HEP trainline.

1. You can see there is a fourth jumper located between #2 and #3. What was the function of that fourth jumper?
2. Anyone with color shots of this type material?
3. A a photo that shows these trainline receptacles on the end of a push-pull car

 

Thank you. :-)

 

 

Steamfan77 posted:

Thanks for the pic Paul. And thank you Steve for the additional pics and information. It’s great when people who have lived on the Island (or still do) relate their memories and experiences. 

Andy

Glad I could contribute, Andy, but true “lawn-guy-linders” would dispute that I EVER lived on Long Island... I was born and raised in Brooklyn which IS the western tip of the island. But, to be fair, we Brooklynites would vociferously deny we were from Long Island   

Paul, weird how that worked out. Brooklyn and Queens are physically  on Long Island, but are part of the city. And you’re right, there would be an argument both ways. Funny how someone draws an invisible boundary, and it somehow makes things so different. Notice Long Islanders say they live “on” Long Island. Great pic of the G5s.

Andy

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I was born in Brooklyn and raised there and in Queens for my first 18 years (1942-1960). My family always said we were going "out to the island" whenever we went to visit relatives in Hicksville in Nassau County, as if Brooklyn and Queens were NOT already part of Long Island! HA! If they had said "further out", that would have made sense. LOL!

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Tinplate Art posted:

I was born in Brooklyn and raised there and in Queens for my first 18 years (1942-1960). My family always said we were going "out to the island" whenever we went to visit relatives in Hicksville in Nassau County, as if Brooklyn and Queens were NOT already part of Long Island! HA! If they had said "further out", that would have made sense. LOL!

It's the "magical" crossing over the Cross Island Parkway effect

The founding fathers of the city included Queens and Brooklyn strictly  for a source of tax revenue.  Native Americans still inhabited Long Island. It all started with Hicksville',  little by little, towns developed to the east and became incorporated, as the natives disappeared ... Reminds me also of the Bronx.  In the early years of development, people, referred to the Bronx as going up state.  Any area outside Manhattan, was considered "Hicksville" Hicks, and hayseeds'............. 

Scotie posted:

But the name Hicksville predates the use of the term "hick" or "hayseed"

From Google:

The name Hicksville recalls the Hicks family, who became local landowners, and more particularly a family member named Valentine Hicks who was a founder of the Long Island Rail Road. Tracks reached Hicksville by 1836.

Google'  and algorithms'... at play'...Even today,  many New York City residents, refer to the Island as the sticks'..... I would imagine, back in 1836, it was no different'...... 

My Mother's sister, Aunt Kay, married into the Hicks family in the 1930s.  They were also very big in the printing business in the city'..........

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Quarter Gauger 48 posted:
Scotie posted:

But the name Hicksville predates the use of the term "hick" or "hayseed"

From Google:

The name Hicksville recalls the Hicks family, who became local landowners, and more particularly a family member named Valentine Hicks who was a founder of the Long Island Rail Road. Tracks reached Hicksville by 1836.

Google'  and algorithms'... at play'...Even today,  many New York City residents, refer to the Island as the sticks'..... I would imagine, back in 1836, it was no different'...... 

My Mother's sister, Aunt Kay, married into the Hicks family in the 1930s.  They were also very big in the printing business in the city'..........

Just a lot more sticks in 1836.

yankspride4 posted:

Shiny new M9’s spotted in the Ronkonkoma yard. I drop off my grass clippings up the street every week and I always go just a little out of my way to drive by.D5D26E0E-BCA7-4937-A952-2352351FB58E

Nice shot'.  WHat is the condition of the lake theses days?  Three was a restaurant in Ronkonkoma, my folks would drive to from Patchogue , to go to when I was about 7,or 8 .  I remember it being a nice little town, like most LI, towns 60 years ago'....

I was born in the Bronx but we moved to Mineola when I was two. I’m a country boy ( to a person who actually lives in the country I’m a city slicker), always have been. The hair on the back of my neck stands up when I cross over the Queens border . Give me a couple of acres and some peace and quiet, and I’m good to go.

Andy

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Arthur posted:
MELGAR posted:

Andy,

My parents moved from New York City to East Meadow when I was eight years old. As a city boy, I thought I was moving to the country. Eventually, I fled to New England, again in search of the country.

MELGAR

Will now cost you at least a million to have a piece of the "country" that was once all of Long Island.

Yes, I remember it well. But I had good years on Long Island, especially working for Grumman.

MELGAR

QUARTER GAUGER 48: I got my third chevron in 1964, less than two years into my enlistment in the US Army. I was assigned as battalion CBR NCO S2,3 Operations, 1st Battalion, 11th Infantry at Fort Carson, CO. Received the Army Commendation Medal for my service in 1965. The Battalion Major put me in for that award for designing a succesful program to reduce IG gigs on inspections regarding chemical gear. PS: I was offered an E-6 rank to re-up, but decided to go back to college instead! I gave Uncle three years and that was enough!

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Tinplate Art posted:

Ah, I remember riding by Morris Park on Atlantic Ave, and seeing those steamers all lined up near the coaling tower in the years 1950-52, just before the end of steam! We lived in Woodhaven at that time, and I was eight-years old in 1950.

Art,

We lived in Astoria during those years - near Woodhaven. Was there a train store in the area?

MELGAR

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. from Woodhaven Blvd. that carried Lionel from which I got my ZW and gantry crane. Cannot recall the name.

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Tinplate Art posted:

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. that carried Lionel and I hot my ZW and gantry crane from there.

Art,

Thank you very much for the answer. I remember my father taking me to a Lionel train store in the Woodhaven area and simply would like to find and visit the location. It has remained in my memory for a long time.

MELGAR

MELGAR posted:
Tinplate Art posted:

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. that carried Lionel and I hot my ZW and gantry crane from there.

Art,

Thank you very much for the answer. I remember my father taking me to a Lionel train store in the Woodhaven area and simply would like to find and visit the location. It has remained in my memory for a long time.

MELGAR

Melgar,

The location remains but the Manor store has ben gone for many years.

Tinplate Art posted:

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. from Woodhaven Blvd. that carried Lionel from which I got my ZW and gantry crane. Cannot recall the name.

Tinplate Art posted:

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. from Woodhaven Blvd. that carried Lionel from which I got my ZW and gantry crane. Cannot recall the name.

Visited Manor a good many times. My Grandparents lived in Woodhaven on Park Lane South, I lived on 107 St. in Richmond Hill. My vivid memory of Manor was going with my Father when he said it was time to add another locomotive. Asked the salesman for a GG1, "sorry son but we no longer have them but how about a New Haven electric", so I got an NH EP5. (My father also took me to the Lionel Showroom every Christmas time).

Tex Foster's ! Been decades since I heard that name; on about 104 ST. & Jamaica Ave. I remember it as being a some what "fine scale" model store, remember looking at the HO track ballasted roadbed he had set up and thinking, that looks cool.   

Arthur posted:
Tinplate Art posted:

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. from Woodhaven Blvd. that carried Lionel from which I got my ZW and gantry crane. Cannot recall the name.

Tinplate Art posted:

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. from Woodhaven Blvd. that carried Lionel from which I got my ZW and gantry crane. Cannot recall the name.

Visited Manor a good many times. My Grandparents lived in Woodhaven on Park Lane South, I lived on 107 St. in Richmond Hill. My vivid memory of Manor was going with my Father when he said it was time to add another locomotive. Asked the salesman for a GG1, "sorry son but we no longer have them but how about a New Haven electric", so I got an NH EP5. (My father also took me to the Lionel Showroom every Christmas time).

Tex Foster's ! Been decades since I heard that name; on about 104 ST. & Jamaica Ave. I remember it as being a some what "fine scale" model store, remember looking at the HO track ballasted roadbed he had set up and thinking, that looks cool.   

Does anyone remember the train store in Grand Central, or was it Penn Central, that had on display on shelves  at the tops of the glass windows that you could see standing outside, every type of beautiful Brass steam locomotives.  

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