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Big_Boy_4005 posted:

From what little I've seen so far, nothing. I do expect that to change Monday, when I can really look at the whole catalog. 

It did. 

I may actually have to break down and get a Big Boy this time. Much as I would like the 4005 (duh), it will probably be 4014, as my rule for steam is, I have to have seen it under steam, in the Twin Cities.  Probably going to have to modify a few spots on the layout to be able to run it. The layout was designed before anyone made a Big Boy.

Gotta keep working on my excursion set, and the Experience baggage car. The Amtrak camera dome is a must have. It'll go great with my rainbow Empire Builder. It'll be a game time decision on the GN / BN F7's and the B unit. They are pretty, two of my favorite colors.

No freight this time, but I have plenty of that.

For me this catalog is high buck low volume. To each his own.

Blue Streak posted:

The Frisco 4524 has my attention as well - just wish it had a coal tender like it should. May be my sort of fantasy engine for the year.

The Cotton Belt F7's will be #1 on my order form

Just for the heck of it - I was curious - I looked up the Frisco 4-8-4's in Collias' book Frisco Power, to find out that only 3 of these locos were indeed oil-burners - 4500, 4501, 4502. You probably already know that.

Four 4-8-4's were preserved, per the book, and, oddly, 2 of them were oil-burners (4500 and 4501), and, to make matters more annoying, 4524 is indeed preserved, but it's a coal-burner. 

Oh, well - the model is of an ATSF 4-8-4 and tender anyway. How accurate could the "Frisco" version be?

I think my top choices are the Union Pacific #4141 SD70ACE and the Union Pacific #4141 60' Flag Boxcar. After that I will strongly consider the Youngstown S-2 and Penn Central Flat Spot Freightsounds PS1 Boxcar. I'll have to wait and see but I like the Chessie System l12 Caboose.

If I had more money than I knew what to do with:

US Army Transportation Corps #1945 4-6-6T

Florida East Coast #105 SD70ACE

Penn Central F7 AA Set

 

D500 posted:
Blue Streak posted:

The Frisco 4524 has my attention as well - just wish it had a coal tender like it should. May be my sort of fantasy engine for the year.

The Cotton Belt F7's will be #1 on my order form

Just for the heck of it - I was curious - I looked up the Frisco 4-8-4's in Collias' book Frisco Power, to find out that only 3 of these locos were indeed oil-burners - 4500, 4501, 4502. You probably already know that.

Four 4-8-4's were preserved, per the book, and, oddly, 2 of them were oil-burners (4500 and 4501), and, to make matters more annoying, 4524 is indeed preserved, but it's a coal-burner. 

Oh, well - the model is of an ATSF 4-8-4 and tender anyway. How accurate could the "Frisco" version be?

Yes All of the engines I am most interested in besides the Cotton Belt F7's (already ordered) are sort of fantasy's. 

Frisco 4500 "Meteor" The engine is fairly close and it was an oil burner but that flat top tender just does not look good. 

Frisco 4524 was a coal burner

Missouri Pacific 2202 was  a coal burner

Rock Island 5100 is kind of a mix between 5000 class (tender - I have pics of 5051 and 5049 with a similar oil tender) but the engine looks more like the 5100 class. 

I already suggested to Ryan why not use the tender from the C&O T1 in the last catalog. That would basically fix the Mopac engine easily, Frisco 4524 - although the top of the tender did not have sloped sides and the 4500 would look much more correct. Just take the coal load out and add some plates and call it new tooling on the cheap. 4500 would then be a winner.

They did this sort of with the EM-1's in the catalog (mixing up the tenders) But only me suggesting these things will not get this done - need others to suggest it. I would go for all 4 if they did some simple fixes.

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I don't plan on ordering anything from the catalog.  But to be fair, there is very little that I need to have, so it would have to be a real special item for me to pre-order.

I think the re-release of the I-12 cabeese will be a hit, as the ones from the original release go for a lot more than the original asking price on eBay.  I have a B&O one that I like very much!

I was shocked at the price for the 2-pack 18" ATSF heavy weight sets!    A two-car set lists for $400!!!  Even with the highly discounted pre-order price, the price is $290.  I purchased a NOS coach from the original release at this past York for less than $80, and I kick myself for not buying the baggage car as well!

Jim

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Probably a B&O I12 cabin car, the 1955 - 1965 version; especially if it is easy to convert to two-rail. I had a brass one (Max Gray, I think) that I traded to a friend for a CLW SD40, now I wish that I had not. I also would like to get the baggage car with Bush's casket displayed but that may only be available in the funeral train set. I pre-ordered the MTH 4141 in two-rail and the MTH baggage car but it is only 72' car, the Lionel one seems to be an 85' car.

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Nothing jumps out at me.  Not sure how many big boys and em-1 s we need.   But I guess it’s too expensive for something really new to be tooled anymore.  I’d really like to see something that has not been done by Lionel before or something really new.  Also no operating accessories which I love.  But it still has lots of stuff for people that missed them before.  So pretty good vol 2 catalog.

booker110 posted:

The NS OCS has my attention, and it looks like the new executive cars will be the proper color and slightly different from the previously released cars..will be curious to see if they have the high gloss finish as well. I also really like the Alaska set!

It will be interesting to see I have all the cars on order. I know the theater car was a little too red, but would be nice if they match.  I would also like to see the F units numbered 270,271,275, & 276, regardless I’m still getting them. 

Brandon Cole posted:
booker110 posted:

The NS OCS has my attention, and it looks like the new executive cars will be the proper color and slightly different from the previously released cars..will be curious to see if they have the high gloss finish as well. I also really like the Alaska set!

It will be interesting to see I have all the cars on order. I know the theater car was a little too red, but would be nice if they match.  I would also like to see the F units numbered 270,271,275, & 276, regardless I’m still getting them. 

Notch 6 podcast Ryan knuckle says they will probably rerun theater car, cause new ocs cars will be darker and not match.

tom21pa posted:
Brandon Cole posted:
booker110 posted:

The NS OCS has my attention, and it looks like the new executive cars will be the proper color and slightly different from the previously released cars..will be curious to see if they have the high gloss finish as well. I also really like the Alaska set!

It will be interesting to see I have all the cars on order. I know the theater car was a little too red, but would be nice if they match.  I would also like to see the F units numbered 270,271,275, & 276, regardless I’m still getting them. 

Notch 6 podcast Ryan knuckle says they will probably rerun theater car, cause new ocs cars will be darker and not match.

Just listened to the podcast answered both my questions. Only thing I wonder now is will the Norfolk Southern cars that are in the 2019 catalog with 611 be the darker shade of red. One would think. 

Brandon Cole posted:
tom21pa posted:
Brandon Cole posted:
booker110 posted:

The NS OCS has my attention, and it looks like the new executive cars will be the proper color and slightly different from the previously released cars..will be curious to see if they have the high gloss finish as well. I also really like the Alaska set!

It will be interesting to see I have all the cars on order. I know the theater car was a little too red, but would be nice if they match.  I would also like to see the F units numbered 270,271,275, & 276, regardless I’m still getting them. 

Notch 6 podcast Ryan knuckle says they will probably rerun theater car, cause new ocs cars will be darker and not match.

Just listened to the podcast answered both my questions. Only thing I wonder now is will the Norfolk Southern cars that are in the 2019 catalog with 611 be the darker shade of red. One would think. 

The hep equipment on the roof looks wrong too on the ocs, it's supposed to be two mufflers up there, looks nothing like mufflers to me.

Lou1985 posted:

Nothing. I'm still waiting on my SFRD freight sounds refrigerator from 2018 V2, REA baggage car from 2019 V1, and a Santa Fe R50B refrigerator from MTH 2019 V1. 

I'd like an ATSF 3751 class Northern, but I lack the cash necessary for purchase. 

After looking at the full catalog this still stands. Nothing I would like to order I can afford, so no preorders for me. 

This is a great catalog with probably the best toy train catalog cover ... ever.  I like what Lionel is doing with the product line.

A quick first pass through the catalog and I've found that "I need" (and will order) the Cotton Belt ABBA (beautiful black widow set), the SP S-4, and probably the SP and Santa Fe Disconnect sets.  More, later, I suspect.  

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