A Visit to see Frisco 4500 - 2008 pics added

Richard,  Thanks for posting this.  I have been to Tulsa many times and was completely unaware of this display.  Now I will be sure to check it out. Regards, Pat B.

Yes, this is great!

Thanks,

Richard, that's fantastic.  I really appreciate you posting your pictures!  I will stop there the next time I travel through Tulsa.

It's funny, after looking at so many Santa Fe engines, I knew this was a Baldwin engine.

Nice locomotive and display, thanks for sharing!!

I enjoyed the photos.  Thanks for posting them.

Very nice pictures, thanks for sharing.

Thanks, Alex

Since there is an intrest in 4500, here are some "before" pictures from a few years back.

I first saw the caboose and Murray Hill back in July of 2008 during a second visit to see 4500. I can not find the pictures of the first visit. Here is the caboose. it was in really bad shape.

Although the Murray Hill still needs a lot of work, here is how she looked back in July of 2008, inside and outside.

When I fist saw the 4500 she was in very bad shape, and restoration was just getting started. on my second visit she looked a little better, but there was much work left to be completed. Here are some pictures from that visit back in 2008. The cab was still missing all controls and guages. The tender had not been painted, and the 4500, although painted, she was still missing her "detail parts."

Here are some pictures of the 4500 after restoration was complete, and she was being moved to her present location.

My wife got to see 4500 at its present location before I did and she took these pictures.

Thanks again to all for looking at the pictures.

Richard Gonzales

thank you so much for sharing. that is a beautiful locomotice. that group has done an amazing amount of work on the engine and cars.

Thanks Dave,

Apart from my wife' uncle (he was not directly involved)  I have only met one or two of the folks who made this possible. The 4500 looks like she could be fired up and move on down the line at any moment, but I do not think that is in the plans.

Thanks again for looking at the pictures.

Richard

this would be a fun engine to see run again...

Indeed it would be Pete. Other then the SP 4449 and maybe the Reading T-1 I can not think of any other steamers active or on display with such an atractive color scheme.

Thanks for looking at the pictures,

Richard

We need stiffer penalties for vandalism. I get so sick of the "They are just kids" excuse.   It is a hard crime to catch and kids do it because in the unlikely event they get caught, they will just get probation if no one gets hurt.  

  I hate to think how much railroad heritage has been lost over the years to vandals.Sorry for the hijack.  The engine looks great.  Thanks for sharing the pics.

Sort of along Garfield's posting, it's a shame this is not indoors somewhere. Vandals will steal anything that's not nailed down. Plus the weather will eventually take its toll again.

She is a beautiful engine- it would be great if she could operate again!

Richard what is the dark colored unit in the engine house?

Mickey

Mickey

I am not sure, maybe a MP 15? The engne shop was really cramped and I could not get a good picture of that unit. Wish I could tell you more.

Take care,

Richard

Tulsa-SapulpaUnion (TSU) operates several Sw900 & 1200 engines. That is what you are seeing. They also have 4-5, perhaps more, on sidings for parts. Their shop stays busy repairing a regular stream of old switchers, SW's of various forms mostly. 

Sam,

I was hoping you would chime in. Do you know the status of the coboose restoration?. Where did the two dome tank car come from? The only thing it needs is the replacement of the ronning boards around the frame and then it would be 100% restored.

Are there any plans for the Murray Hill's restoration? I have heard that the location of it's interior components is known, but whoever posssesses them now will not agree to return them in order to restore the Murray Hill.

Hopefully Sam you can provide us with some up to date information.

Thanks for joining in the conversation.

Richard

Good Day, 

The Frisco 4500 would make a fantastic Lionel VisionLine model!