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Anybody want to see this engine done right? Practically every railroad had them so paint schemes galore---as I recall weavers from a long time ago were closest on looks but bad motors and impossible to find---Lionel's were terrible looking-----Atlas trainman was so-so --MTH not sure but didnt have fixed pilots ---Atlas RS1's were nice but no fixed pilots.

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Atlas 2 rail RS1s did have fixed pilots.   My friend had 2-3 of them at one time.

As for weaver motors, I have a large fleet of Weaver RS3s and FA/FB units and have never had a motor failure.    The motors in the single motor versions were real can motors from Pittman.      And these units still show up at train shows in decent quantities.     I have no experience with the 2 motor ones.

I think there are so many RS3s from various importers, that a Sunset version would not get enough reservations to be a go.

It might make more sense to do some models that have not been done recently or not done often.    Perhaps an ALCO RSD7 or RSD15.   Perhaps some of many Baldwin models or Fairbanks Morse would sell better.

@prrjim posted:

Atlas 2 rail RS1s did have fixed pilots.   My friend had 2-3 of them at one time.

As for weaver motors, I have a large fleet of Weaver RS3s and FA/FB units and have never had a motor failure.    The motors in the single motor versions were real can motors from Pittman.      And these units still show up at train shows in decent quantities.     I have no experience with the 2 motor ones.

I think there are so many RS3s from various importers, that a Sunset version would not get enough reservations to be a go.

It might make more sense to do some models that have not been done recently or not done often.    Perhaps an ALCO RSD7 or RSD15.   Perhaps some of many Baldwin models or Fairbanks Morse would sell better.

I agree with the highlighted statements made here; the weakest feature of the Weaver diesels was the plastic "frame" and the possibility of   bending (warping) over time. Other than that, they're great.

Mark in Oregon

Anybody want to see this engine done right? Practically every railroad had them so paint schemes galore---as I recall weavers from a long time ago were closest on looks but bad motors and impossible to find---Lionel's were terrible looking-----Atlas trainman was so-so --MTH not sure but didnt have fixed pilots ---Atlas RS1's were nice but no fixed pilots.

What do you mean by "bad motors"? The early scale shaft drives had Pittman motors. Its more the shaft drive had chain sprocket issues than a "bad motor" The "New Century" drives were twin vertical motors with flywheels like any other o guage engine made. Both can motor types give years of service. Do you even own a Weaver model diesel?

@GregM posted:

While looking at photos of Conrail RS3 engines, I came across this one;

Conrail 9961 Altoona, PA. 08/051984

The “shortened hood”  is an interesting feature.  

Was this a factory option or a common modification?

The program of modifications was started by Penn Central in 1972 at the former NYC DeWitt shops and the former PRR Altoona shops.  Conrail continued to do RS3 rebuilds until 1978.  There are a lot of variations on the RS3m models from lowered hoods of varying heights to boxy enclosures where an EMD prime mover was used to replace the original Alco one. 

@GregM posted:

While looking at photos of Conrail RS3 engines, I came across this one;

Conrail 9961 Altoona, PA. 08/051984

The “shortened hood”  is an interesting feature.  

Was this a factory option or a common modification?

That's a shop modification, not an option from Alco.  Note the twin stacks on the long hood.  The original Alco prime mover and electrical equipment have also been replaced by an EMD prime mover and EMD electrics.  Some of these modifications were done by Conrail and some were done by Penn Central.  The locomotives were classed RS3m.

EDIT - Looks like Jonathan is a faster typist than I am!

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