My Father built an All Nation Mountain Locomotive kit in early 1960s When I sold our 66 Year accumulation of trains I retained this Loco in our family. I need to get a set of 6 wheel tender trucks and a "Cow Catcher" for the front of the loco as it has disappeared over the years! Thanks for any help you can provide! Tom Weaver
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The tender trucks should be pretty easy to replace. Exact originals may be hard, but similar 6-wheel 2-rail trucks should be easy.
You could try some of the 2-rail train shows if there are any in your area and browse the tables with parts. There is a guy that goes to the Chicago March Meet and usually has 2-3 tables of old parts and many look to be All Nation.
Also P&D Hobbies in the Detroit area has a lot of parts and trucks and was an All Nation dealer for many years. You could get the phone number off their website. Ask for Pat, he is the owner and knows All Nation.
Exact original Buckeye trucks are pretty primitive - go for almost any Buckeye trucks on eBay and you are there. PSC sells new sprung Buckeyes.
I shall look around - if I have those castings, they are yours. Ugly.
The pilot is the opposite - a die cast work of art. While you are looking, Bob Stevenson can supply you with a brass equivalent.
Exact original Buckeye trucks are pretty primitive - go for almost any Buckeye trucks on eBay and you are there. PSC sells new sprung Buckeyes.
I shall look around - if I have those castings, they are yours. Ugly.
The pilot is the opposite - a die cast work of art. While you are looking, Bob Stevenson can supply you with a brass equivalent.
Bob, how do I get in touch with Bob Stevenson? Would like to get a pilot The Buckeye trucks don't have to be all nation just something that would work well. he built this to run inside 3rd rail. Not sure if you are familiar with this kit but has a bronze boiler need rugged bench work the tender on other end is cast aluminum and pretty rough but useable. Thanks for your help.
My Father built an All Nation Mountain Locomotive kit in early 1960s When I sold our 66 Year accumulation of trains I retained this Loco in our family. I need to get a set of 6 wheel tender trucks and a "Cow Catcher" for the front of the loco as it has disappeared over the years! Thanks for any help you can provide! Tom Weaver
Well I now have a set of Tender Trucks from Bill Davis American scale models. I sent P&D an email but didn't get a reply so still searching for a Pilot. Thanks Tom Weaver
Babbit Supply had many of the All Nation steam engine parts, and they were acquired by BTS several years ago, but we are still waiting for BTS to inventory and catalog those parts so that they can offer them for sale. Try contacting Billy Wade at BTS for more info.
Bill in FtL
Any idea the prototype for the All-Nation Mountain? My first serious O Gauge Model was a beautiful All Nation Pacific. I saved for months and bought the model from Floyd Locker at 'HobbyCrafts" at 1616 "J" in Sacramento, circa 1960.
I am looking for all-time list of O Gauge models; die cast or brass, of the Southern Pacific MT 4300 engine family. Did Lobaugh ever offer an SP 4300? Thank you for reference.
Does anyone on the list have the full complement of ALCO MT-1 or Sacramento Shop drawings for MT 3-4-5 class? Prefer MT 5 #4367-4376. I will pay to copy or buy set outright.
Thank you one and all.
Gunnar in Colfax CA
Tom weaver posted:Bob, how do I get in touch with Bob Stevenson?
http://stevensonpreservationlines.com/
I have heard over the years that the only loco with a clear prototype that All Nation offered was the 10-wheeler. It was a B&O prototype. The scuttlebutt was that all the others were freelance. They generally had a family look but no exact prototype without the builder doing some detail work different than the kit provided. So that means the mountain as built probably had no specific prototype.
Jim Eudaly in KC built a number of very nice C&O steamers by kitbashing AN kits.
I have an All-Nation mountain that my father started to assemble during the 60's Locomotive has been completed, but is missing the pilot. Tender body assembled but trucks not installed. There was no particular proto type . Built as a generic locomotive as a basis for owner detailing to their own likes. It is one heavy Locomotive!
WE NEED pics of the All Nation locos please!
Do you want to restore it with original parts?
Jay
Jay C posted:Do you want to restore it with original parts?
Jay
Jay, was looking for pilot only. It has never been run. Tom Weaver
Tom,
I have some pilots that I believe are A-N, Varney, whatever, and they may just be the run of the mill parts. Is there something different about the one you're looking for? I can try to dig them out and take a few photos. If one of them will work for you, it's yours.
Jay
Tom,
I'm going to attempt to insert some photos of a pilot so you can see if it's waht you need. Please note, the pilot is screwed to the frame extension/pilot beam and if you only need the pilot I will keep said beam and just send the boiler tube pilot. Obviously, the lift bar will need some work.
Jay
Jay, It looks like all I would need is the pilot as beam is there I have attached some photos. Locomotive is a brute as boiler is a brass casting! 15" long.
Send me your address. My email is shown in my profile.
Tom,
Your parts went out in the afternoon mail. Please let us know how they work out for you.
Jay
This thread belongs in the 2-rail scale forum. Nobody looks in "wanted" for two rail stuff except Jay. Only reason I saw it was it showed up on the list of recent posts.
I have one or more of everything All Nation produced except the 2-6-6-4, and am happy to post photos.
Also the SP MT series, for gunner - I don't have one of each of those, but do have three Lobaugh, one Scale Craft, and one Max Gray. Plus mechanisms for two more. Happy to post photos if there is interest.
Jay has given me way more stuff than I have given him. I try to pay it forward . . . Jay deserves an award for being the most generous O Scaler. Remind me to post again Si's Shasta Water box! My favorite freight car!
And while we are still in "wanted" put me down for a prewar Lobaugh single dome tank car. I have $$ or a triple dome prewar to trade.
Hey Bob,
Thanks for the shout out. I do enjoy helping folks when I can.
The Shasta Water Car! Yeah, I forgot about that one. I figure it is appreciated and went to a good home.
Jay
bob2 posted:This thread belongs in the 2-rail scale forum. Nobody looks in "wanted" for two rail stuff except Jay. Only reason I saw it was it showed up on the list of recent posts.
I have one or more of everything All Nation produced except the 2-6-6-4, and am happy to post photos.
Also the SP MT series, for gunner - I don't have one of each of those, but do have three Lobaugh, one Scale Craft, and one Max Gray. Plus mechanisms for two more. Happy to post photos if there is interest.
Jay has given me way more stuff than I have given him. I try to pay it forward . . . Jay deserves an award for being the most generous O Scaler. Remind me to post again Si's Shasta Water box! My favorite freight car!
And while we are still in "wanted" put me down for a prewar Lobaugh single dome tank car. I have $$ or a triple dome prewar to trade.
Hello bob2
yes please tell what you have on SP MT class O gauge models. Pictures welcome. We are looking for examples of late SP steam running through Colfax CA. for our Depot Museum. We can patch up and paint an orphan. Need MT with or without skyline casing.
Envious of Brit NEW steam Pacific 60163 and a 2-8-2 now in the works (actually). Wealthy American entrepreneurs have financial ability to build a new Mt-5, (4377?) and a NYC J-3a? Missing pieces of East & West Coast Americana.... There are such people following O Gauge doings.
Thank You!
I have models of just about everything that ran past Colfax including the experimental Baldwin 4-10-2. The only cab forwards missing around here are the "simpled" 2-6-6-2 and 2-8-8-2 - multiple compounds run occasionally.
Move this to the 2-rail forum and I'll post some photos. SP Mountains show up on eBay all the time.
Thank You for reply. How move message stream to another (2-rail forum) or do you mean start new thread there?
We will keep an eye on eBay as you suggest. Most SP MT offerings are too pricey.
Currently, redoing a Weaver Brass GS 2 decal and weathering to show appearance as SP 4460 on last day run October 1958. May do likewise with MTH SP 4294, recast to SP #4274 December 1957 appearance.
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