Here's a cool picture I just spotted. (No it's not me selling it) An elevated siding - something not common but prototypical for your layout.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LIRR-L...&hash=item3cc0c20f89
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Very interesting.
In Chicago, the North Shore had some freight customers in the elevated territory which continued to be served by the L after North Shore went toes up, I'm told.
Lee
In Chicago, the North Shore had some freight customers in the elevated territory which continued to be served by the L after North Shore went toes up, I'm told.
Lee
Yes, Chicago had freight operations on the North Side mainline...
ChicagoL.Org Freight Operations
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And in lower Manhattan there was the High Line elevated freight line that
serviced many businesses there. The line actually passed through a number
of buildings that it served. The line was abandoned for years and is
now open as a scenic walkway.
http://www.thehighline.org/
serviced many businesses there. The line actually passed through a number
of buildings that it served. The line was abandoned for years and is
now open as a scenic walkway.
http://www.thehighline.org/
This photo appears to be from the mid 30's. Don't know when the Siding was removed but it is not there now and no structural traces seem to remain. The spur probably ran to a trestle set up to handle several hoppers that would unload contents into bins below . There probably were silos on the coal dealer's property as well
The LIRR had a significant freight business on this line. When this photo was taken, DD-1s would have the freight assignment. Meat reefers were run down to Carlton ave Yard near Flatbush ave, and there were sidings below ground immediately north of the Flatbush ave Terminal to service more meat packers. Milk reefers were also delivered on this line. When the DD-1s were retired, Freight movements were powered by Alco S-1 and S-2 switchers as well as the Baldwins at times.
Freight is now gone from the line. Carlton Ave Yard is used for Passenger car storage and Bus Storage . It has been lowered to allow for the new Atlantic Terminal development which is to house Basketball's NETs franchise.
Would be an interesting modeling operation.
The LIRR had a significant freight business on this line. When this photo was taken, DD-1s would have the freight assignment. Meat reefers were run down to Carlton ave Yard near Flatbush ave, and there were sidings below ground immediately north of the Flatbush ave Terminal to service more meat packers. Milk reefers were also delivered on this line. When the DD-1s were retired, Freight movements were powered by Alco S-1 and S-2 switchers as well as the Baldwins at times.
Freight is now gone from the line. Carlton Ave Yard is used for Passenger car storage and Bus Storage . It has been lowered to allow for the new Atlantic Terminal development which is to house Basketball's NETs franchise.
Would be an interesting modeling operation.
quote:Originally posted by 351_DD-1:
Here's a cool picture I just spotted. (No it's not me selling it) An elevated siding - something not common but prototypical for your layout.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LIRR-L...&hash=item3cc0c20f89
The Reading RR had several of them on their elevated electrified line in the city of Philadelphia. Was common to see RR sidings enter the second story of buildings off of elevated freight lines.
LIRR Steamer, if you have already written a book on all this stuff, I need to know what it is so I can buy a copy. If you haven't written a book, then you need to seat yourself in front of a keyboard (not typewriter anymore, I guess) and get started. I have several books on LIRR and subway history but your level of detail is always astounding.
I went to Google maps. The line is gone.
I'm not familiar with that area of Bklyn. When was the elevated line removed?
Peter
I'm not familiar with that area of Bklyn. When was the elevated line removed?
Peter
The Brooklyn Line to Atlantic Ave was removed from street level starting about 1901. A new Flatbush Ave station was undertaken at that time also. This was part of a grade crossing elimination project agreed to with the City. From the new station the line went east in a tunnel to Bedford Ave, an elevated line through Nostrand Ave to Howard Ave, Tunnel to a grade level station at Eaast New York and then elevated again east of the station to Atkins Ave where it went into a tunnel which reached to Morris Park in Richmond Hill. The El shown in the photo first carried train traffic about 1903.
About 1940,as part of another grade crossing elimination project, the East New York Station was rebuilt and slightly depressed and the Atlantic Avenue Viaduct built over the station. The railroad going East was then routed to a Tunnel under Atlantic Avenue which ran East to the existing tunnel at Morris Park. The El structure shown in the photo was removed at this time. This is when Luzerne Coal lost its rail service. This company seemed to be a retail dealer for Anthracite Heating coal. The Atlantic Avenue branch remains in this configuration today carrying LIRR commuter trains to Atlantic Terminal from Jamaica Station
351 DD1 Thank you for the kind words. I have always enjoyed researching historical subjects. The LIRR and Transit stuff is interesting in that I can remember a lot of info from personal experience in the postwar period and onward. My Dad liked these subjects as well so additional info passed along as well from an earlier time. I do write a column for the METCA quarterly magazine as well as my Hi Rail clubs monthly newsletter. I have worked with a close friend in researching and editing some writings for the PRR society Magazine the Keystone and am doing some research now for a story on LIRR's Bushwick Branch. I think this Forum is a great vehicle for sharing information on these subjects because folks that frequent these Forums are interested in expanding and sharing this knowledge. This is great way to promote our Hobby and we need to do that.
About 1940,as part of another grade crossing elimination project, the East New York Station was rebuilt and slightly depressed and the Atlantic Avenue Viaduct built over the station. The railroad going East was then routed to a Tunnel under Atlantic Avenue which ran East to the existing tunnel at Morris Park. The El structure shown in the photo was removed at this time. This is when Luzerne Coal lost its rail service. This company seemed to be a retail dealer for Anthracite Heating coal. The Atlantic Avenue branch remains in this configuration today carrying LIRR commuter trains to Atlantic Terminal from Jamaica Station
351 DD1 Thank you for the kind words. I have always enjoyed researching historical subjects. The LIRR and Transit stuff is interesting in that I can remember a lot of info from personal experience in the postwar period and onward. My Dad liked these subjects as well so additional info passed along as well from an earlier time. I do write a column for the METCA quarterly magazine as well as my Hi Rail clubs monthly newsletter. I have worked with a close friend in researching and editing some writings for the PRR society Magazine the Keystone and am doing some research now for a story on LIRR's Bushwick Branch. I think this Forum is a great vehicle for sharing information on these subjects because folks that frequent these Forums are interested in expanding and sharing this knowledge. This is great way to promote our Hobby and we need to do that.
LIRR...thank you very much!
peter
peter
